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New Games Suck*****; Get out
Topic Started: Feb 10 2010, 10:06 PM (1,109 Views)
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Every new video game has lost its edge these days because just about anyone can be hired for the job of game designer. Remember when teams consisted of far fewer people, and those few people really wanted to give their heart and soul (and creative minds) to producing thought-out, well developed adventures for us? Not anymore. It's about money now; and selling to idiots. Guess what? Bring your buddies, 'cause anyone can join. Let's make money, guys. Let's start with the lack of women gamers.

You wanna know what pisses me off? Huh? Games are becoming far more feminine and drama-oriented with all the sex schemes and dialogue options... *sigh* Gotta get those vaginas interested in purchasing their games, right? And what do women love more than drama, deceit, and sex? Nothing god damn it. The typical woman loves this ***** and you know it. If you're going to stand here and deny it, and try to act like there's some sort of generalization going on here, you seriously don't *****ing know anything about who soap operas are intended for, how successful they are despite what garbage they consist of, and the common interests of MANY women and their romance novels. (not all women god damn you. Not all women. Read carefully) How many movies that would otherwise have jack ***** to do with these sorts of things, have make-out scenes and ***** scenes? This is a way of luring women (the least likely gamer, at one time) into video games.

It's getting to where gaming is going to be only for idiots; Not having the edge it used to.

Can't have that edge. Gotta make money. Gotta make something for idiots. Come on. Sex. Good looking 3D cartoon characters with big tits and penises. Cool cinematic BS. "Badass" characters/dialogue. Get the ***** out, alright? Get out now...

I'm so sick of this. I wanted to become a game developer myself, but now (along with a few friends of mine) I'm considering changing my major.

Remember Killer Instinct? Mario? Perfect Dark? Unreal Tournament? Zelda? Doom/Quake? Mortal Kombat? Megaman? Pokemon? RE4, perhaps? Any of these? Of course you do. Listen.

You'll never see them again. Never the way you wanted to. Accept it.

Now we have the same god damned game repackaged over and over again, but with different sex dialogue/immature jokes and different plots of dramatic deceit between characters.

This pisses me off to no end. To me, this is just another occurrence of when the idiocy and uncreative minds of every other human being on the planet gets in MY *****ing way.

Thanks for listening.
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Edited by Dark, Feb 10 2010, 10:16 PM.
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Well, that was an interesting rant, but as a casual gamer that doesn't give too *****s about the game industry as long as it gives me games that I want instead of remeniscing about old games that I seem to be the only person not to love, I don't care, and games like Modern Warfare 2, Alien vs Predator and FIFA 10 may not be the lovable platform games that are being so horribly denied to gamers nowadays, but they're good games, and as far as I know they aren't about big tits or penises, nor are they the video game equivelant of Pride and Prejudice or whatever romance novel you seem to think games are being based on these days. I can see your point, but I just don't care, as long as these discs are doing what they are meant to do; entertain me as a gamer.
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Oh, okay. Thanks for your opinion, "casual gamer."
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I'm a hardcore female gamer and I like nothing of what you put up there that you say most women like. Really. ._.;

I do agree that most games today aren't as great as games back then, but not for the reason you mentioned. I don't think it has anything at all to do with women gamers. It has to purely do with 'let's make kick azz graphicks and fail at plotline and character development' so we can rush this out and make money. I'm a RPGer so I like plot development and character development (not romance, mind you, but legit storylines with action and stuff you'd have to be an idiot not to like).

However, Level 5 is still making great games, if you're a hardcore RPGer like I am. And though Tri-Ace is slowly falling apart, their games are still rising above many. I'm turning more towards the indie industry with gaming these days, who are producing actually better quality games than these professionals. In fact, I believe indie game development is growing to meet the demands of awesome games that the big dogs of game creation seem to not care about anymore, especially on the RPG front.
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Alright. I agree with all of this. I could have spoke of this too, but I figured I'd talk about what sort of set me off at the moment.

You're not part of "most women" if you don't like a lot of that garbage.
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And also what you mention comes down to opinion as well. Not most women like that, nor most men. It depends on the person themselves. It really has nothing to do with what sex you are. In fact, more men I know like romance more than women I know. <--- fact

It's just that most PEOPLE in general like what is being put out, because this is a far different age and generation than what we grew up with. Tastes change, from musick style to clothing style, over the years. Those of us who get caught up into a certain age are considered old school. Most of the old schoolers move on from video games (also fact) to other points of life. Not everyone who liked games at a certain age still like gaming. Game companies simply appease the crowd/majority now with what is the going thing. If they didn't, they'd lose players and profits. Its all about the money.
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It used to be different.
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Feb 10 2010, 10:48 PM
It used to be different.
You have to take into consideration that the time we grew up in, when video game technology was a BIG NEW THING and developing new stuff left and right with new graphicks and pushing systems to their limit...gaming was a larger part of life back then. Sure its still developing more and more, but the leaps and excitement factor is considerably less than when we went from NES to SNES or from 2D to completely 3D to realism 3D.

Its just a matter of time differences. Now its about quick bucks using what is developed, because gaming profits aren't near as much so as they were back when gaming was, in general, a more popular sport.
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There is a gaming industry? I haven't noticed because I'm too busy sticking my nose in a book. But aside from that, the last game I bought was said to be the sequel of a ground breaking title, which I didn't think was very ground breaking to begin with. Fable 2 that is. I wasn't impressed. And I can see what you are saying in your rant just based on that game alone.
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The Pokemon series is pretty much the same, aside from all the added Pokemon, they've not really change the way the game works, to fully master it, it will still take time and dedication to it.

Unreal Tournament, still being made, 3 was a bit stupid yes, they did it more like a story instead of just a random tournament.

Don't really have much to say about the other games you mentioned.

I really do disagree with your arguments about all new games being bad, as well as saying that most are moving towards targeting women or idiots, some maybe but that's because it's how they make money, businesses need to make money to survive.

There are plenty of modern games that are still worth playing.

Sam and Max; I like this series because I'm a bit of a fan of click and point adventure games, it's got humour and an ammusing plot.

Half-Life 2; Arguabally one of the best first person shooters, the graphics are way ahead of the first Half-Life and the plot is absorbing.

Sims 3; Okay, you might say something like "blah blah casual gamers blah blah idiots" but I do think it has come along way from the first one and the first Sims was itself a very good game, no plot but you could do so much, the Sims 3 has added so many more features to improve gameplay, they added aging back in the Sims 2, this made the game more difficult if you wanted to try to continue your familiy, Sims 3 added personallity traits that affected the game.

GTA: IV; Also a good game, the PC version suffers from Windows Live forcing you to sign in to save though, but aside from that, it's possibly one of the best GTA games, it's not as customisable as GTA: SA though but makes up for it in what it allows you to do.

Command and Conquer; Started out with Westwood, a small company yes but EA took them over, made a bit of a mess of the series early on but I think they have started to improve it and bring back was made it an enjoyable series, Generals didn't seem like it should have been in the series to me but Red Alert 3 brought back cheesy plots and rediculas characters, just better graphics.

I could go on, there are loads of games that haven't changed much in terms of the core but have changed a lot in terms of features and graphics, holding back on adding more gameplay options and graphics would keep games stuck in the past and really, some now are so much more fun, others not so.

The charm of some old games still appers in some new games.

To me it sounds more like you are unhappy or disgusted at games being more mainstream these days, if that's the case, go play some indie games.
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I get what your saying and i agree with the point that SOME games have lost their edge and most of our respect. But the fact that the way Gaming is going companys have to create more original and creative than ever before in the past. And this has brought on some amazing games not just because of visuals and cinematics but because of the gameplay. Take Modern warfare 2. Being an xbox player my friends list is filled with people all on Modern Warfare 2. Not because of some cinematic during the campaign or the nice visuals of the game. That stuff simply makes people go "Oh... thats cool..." and in 5min it doesnt matter, seen it all before in some other game, in some other part of the game. Multiplayer is the key to gaming these days. Thats what people want in a game and thats what the game developers will create. Those games you mentioned are in the past. Age old classics that nobody should forget but the ones who attempt to just push out more copies of themselves these days like new weird mario games should be rejected. They are simply reducing the image of the older classic games to gamers such as myself. Games right now havent lost their edge. They simply have a new edge completly that should be looked at seperatly to the games of the past. In years to come when the games right now are made classics. I hope to hell they are not trying to push out a Bioshock 7 or Modern warefare 8 because in one simple word, these games will be crap.

wow. My first rant. Im so proud. I dont even know if im pro what you said or not...
Edited by Blind Wanderer, Feb 10 2010, 11:34 PM.
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I have to agree that today's games just arn't up to the standards they used to be. You get the occasional gems but these days most games are just carbon copys of one another.

I recently downloaded Final Fantasy 7 and 8 to my PSP because there's no new games I'm interested in. Says something that I'd rather be playing old games then new ones.
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okay, I can see were you are coming from, I got really ticked off after seeing the way certain titles I used to love were evolving in a way that totally "BLEW CHUNKS" but that didn't happen to every game series I loved, and there are still games that rise above the standard of modern games.

I assume you are mostly blowing off steam, but don't waste it here! You should really use that fiery anger and passion against the way our media is heading and get into the gaming industry so you can compete with all the crap out their and show em how it's done! if we had more people like you in the gaming industry, who cared about keeping their fans happy, while at the same time pushing their own limitations with each generation to add upon the greatest games ever, and continually come up with new ones that we have never seen anything like before, than maybe we wouldn't have so many horrible games out there.

it sounds to me like you have the potential to make really good games, so don't let money hungry idiots who got power over the industry stop you from reaching your goals! no one is stopping you from reaching your dreams, and no one can except for you, so don't give up unless you think you'll be happier doing something else.
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I agree with some of what you said but not all. There is still a lot of good games coming out. But only the games that take a few years to make not 1 year. Games like zelda and metroid and bioshock and mass effect are great. Resident 5 well i haven't played much of that so i'm not sure about that yet. Dead space is great though its the new resident evil. Halo 3 was good and ODST well its ok. The problem is you have to look really hard for the good quality games these days.
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Resident 5 well i haven't played much of that so i'm not sure about that yet.

It's an alright game, but if you're expecting an awesome zombie game, then you'll be disappointed. It's actually just a bunch of really angry africans after you with a few massive insectoid monsters. The racial issues about this game weren't so much about the 'zombies' being black, it was that they were too human-like, thus seeming more like you were in GTA when you used a cheat that made everyone try to kill you rather than the obviously inhuman, slow, undead zombies from previous games. That was one franchise that really went down the pan.

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wow. My first rant. Im so proud. I dont even know if im pro what you said or not...

You're a man now. ;)

I'm guessing there's not much respect for the casual gamers here, is there? How typical. Well, don't judge me, I don't have a WII or any Nintendo products... :p
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