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| Ussj Future Trunks | Sep 2 2010, 06:51 AM Post #31 |
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"NO filler at all" wrong. they kept crap like bulma the frog, gohan vs final form frieza, some of the training, krillin vs imperfect cell etc. "Kid Buu is never shown to toy around that much." he could have ended vegeta any time. same would be true for goku then. kid buu just kept himself to goku's level to enjoy the fight before going all out on ssj3 goku. not that hard to understand. "Goku is equal with Vegeta as a SSJ2." when? what? where? never stated. in fact vegeta was so far behind, he needed to cheat and get the majin boost to be equal to goku. and yes he was taking it easy cos he was enjoying the fight. like cell. cell held back on goku to make it fun. |
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| + Pyrus | Sep 2 2010, 08:18 AM Post #32 |
 
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He's probably referring to Vegeta after he's out of Babidi's possession. |
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| + Ryebrid | Sep 2 2010, 11:15 AM Post #33 |
 
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Just because Babidi died and Vegeta lost the seal doesnt mean Vegeta lost the power. Just like when Guru raised Krillins and Gohans power, it stayed with them, it didnt just vanish, even if he did die there's no reason why he would lose the new found power he had. Well that's interesting to know that some filler is still in it. But all the good filler i bet is gone along with the bad filler. Edited by Ryebrid, Sep 2 2010, 11:30 AM.
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| + Pyrus | Sep 2 2010, 11:29 AM Post #34 |
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I agree. I don't think Vegeta lost the power. Babidi unleashed his latent potential, and even brought him beyond his natural limits. Once you've broken past a limit you've set a new one and the old one is no longer an issue, so Vegeta shouldn't have lost the power. |
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| Ussj Future Trunks | Sep 2 2010, 03:21 PM Post #35 |
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"Just because Babidi died and Vegeta lost the seal doesnt mean Vegeta lost the power" yes it does. its not like vegeta was mystic. if the spell is gone so is the ability. like everyone unstoned once dabura was eaten. |
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Sep 2 2010, 09:19 PM Post #36 |
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Your silly UFT. Majin and Elder Kai Power Ups are generally the same. Badibi is the ying to the Kai's yang. They are nearly on equal footing and are rivals. Both do the same thing. Gohan didn't lose his power up and neither did Vegeta. And You are suggesting that Goku held back SSJ2 against Vegeta is ridiciolous. Goku and Majin Vegeta are evenly matched. Sure Cell held back some against Goku. But guess what. It's stated. Lol/ Your really a pain sometimes wht are you 13 or something. So you can't go on assuming that people are just toying around unless its stated ok little boy? |
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| + Pyrus | Sep 2 2010, 09:46 PM Post #37 |
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You're comparing a technique to a power-up. They're different. The "Mystic" power-up is essentially the same thing as the Majin power-up. Elder Kaioshin unlocked all of Gohan's hidden potential. Babidi did the same thing to Vegeta, except he put his stamp on his forehead. |
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| + Ryebrid | Sep 3 2010, 08:08 AM Post #38 |
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Yes exactly. What you fail to see is that the Majin Seal imprinted on their forehead is only so Babidi can control them. It doesnt mean because its gone he loses power, it means Babidi's dead and the seal is broken so he cant be controlled anymore. Despite the fact that Vegeta couldnt be controlled, essentially that is what the seal does. Vegeta doesnt need the seal to keep the power. It doesnt even make sense if he loses the power for no reason. It pretty much is the same as what Old Kai did but Old Kai's raises it higher than Babidi's. To put it in laments terms, Babidi's spell is like a weaker version of Old Kai's. There's no reason for Vegeta to lose power. |
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| + Pyrus | Sep 3 2010, 08:27 AM Post #39 |
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Wait a minute. Didn't Elder Kaioshin give his life to Goku, yet Gohan still kept all of his power? If so, well... |
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| + Ryebrid | Sep 3 2010, 09:33 AM Post #40 |
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Yes that is indeed correct. Further more proving that Vegeta kept his power. Old Kai released all of Gohan's power and it stayed with him. There's no reason why it wouldnt. Same thing goes for Vegeta. Babidi's dead but yet still Vegeta has his power. Everyone just thinks that having a huge "M" stamped on your head means that you have the power and if its gone then you dont. Totally wrong. As i said the "M" seal is only to control the victim, not to raise the power. |
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| Ussj Future Trunks | Sep 4 2010, 11:42 AM Post #41 |
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gohan stayed in his mystic look whereas vegeta lost his m. conclusion? |
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| Nusu | Sep 4 2010, 11:49 AM Post #42 |
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Boost is a Boost. It dosen´t matter Babidi unlocked Vegeta´s hidden power, The M was just for the control. Or how do you explain the headache with the M? After Babidi died the controlling puppets loses their M. |
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| + Pyrus | Sep 4 2010, 01:48 PM Post #43 |
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Elder Kaioshin never had any possession over Gohan whereas Babidi did. |
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| * Lord Cooler | Sep 4 2010, 03:39 PM Post #44 |
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You all say SSJ2 Majin Vegeta and SSJ2 Goku are equal in strength as if you think SSJ2 is a set power level. Just because Babidi brought out all of Vegeta's strength that doesn't automatically make him the same strength as Goku. |
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| + Pyrus | Sep 4 2010, 03:53 PM Post #45 |
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Goku stated they were completely equal. SSj2 doesn't need a set maximum, but for those two at the time, they were at their maximum SSj2 capabilities and were both equal. |
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