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| Frieza vs. Pui Pui; Who Wins | |
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| Cal | Jan 16 2013, 12:14 AM Post #31 |
I may not deserve to live, but I will protect those in my reach with my reverse blade!
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Allow me to bring fourth enlightenment and knowledge to all brave eyes who ever come across this rare, yet virtually priceless post. Frieza would stomp Pui Pui and very easily in my opinion. The best argument in the 10X gravity one obviously. 10X gravity has NEVER in the series affected an opponent who has a PL above 3,000. Yet when they went there we all knew the base saiyans would be fine there (even though Gohan has never trained in intense gravity before besides the one instant in Hyperbolic Time Chamber). This proves that once you get so powerful (whether the estimate of 3,000PL is correct or not) that level is simply below you. Now we know Frieza probably has been in 10x gravity, yet the saiyans were smart enough to know they still couldn't overthrow him or they would just end up die trying (like they did). So, this all predicts that Pui Pui, Babidi, and Supreme Kai all overestimated Pui Pui more than they underestimated the saiyans. --- Next it's a pretty solid argument that Cell is > Dabura. Now we know the chain goes like this on Babidi's ship: Dabura > Yakon > Pui Pui After witnessing only one warrior fight Pui Pui and defeat him without even being injured they took what they considered to be a giant step in defeating them with Yakon. In volume 38 Dabura says: Yakon should be able to defeat them ALL and EASILY and Babidi agrees. They've yet again overestimated their fighters. As you know after even giving him the home field advantage Goku simply outsmarts him and Gohan says: 'This guy will be no problem for dad' before the fight even starts and Gohan had no idea SSJ3 even existed.. Next you have Dabura's fight. Dabura states after Pui Pui loses that it doesn't matter because eventually they will all lose to him. Vegeta and Goku state however that he shouldn't be a problem if you just avoid his hax (stone spit). You know how it went... Dabura was having trouble with a SSJ1 (more than likely) Gohan who ahdn't trained in forever and was weaker than he was when he fought Cell. So power chain that is most logical at the time: Goku >~ Vegeta > Dabura >~ Gohan >>>>>Frieza>>Yakon>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pui Pui (with his amazing 10X gravity feat) --- This isn't even mentioning Frieza has better hax and is more intelligent. Frieza was able to deduce that Goku was the one who defeated the Ginyu Force and even knew after they initially clashed that Goku was still holding back a lot of reserves for later on. Frieza's breathing in space, surviving despite some of his body being torn off in space after an explosion that blew up an entire planet, planet busting skills, etc are all in his corner. Pui Pui has the fact that he thinks 10X gravity is too much for someone to handle and he'll win by default... Oh and I'm gonna slap anyone who references what Supreme Kai says. That dude was wrong 90% of the time he opened his mouth in the arc. As a matter of fact I could probably post his comments and use it to support my argument considering he is always wrong. Edited by Cal, Jan 16 2013, 12:22 AM.
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| Nanho | Jan 16 2013, 01:01 AM Post #32 |
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The supreme kai is another reason the buu arc was awful; Hes the ''supreme'' kai and thought gohan could beat buu with a sword....Hes suppose to be a god yet hes made into a joke; Blasphemy; King kai is alot more creditable/respectable than him. Edited by Nanho, Jan 16 2013, 01:10 AM.
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| Alex D. Boss | Jan 16 2013, 01:09 AM Post #33 |
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Its another reason why Buu arc is so interesting and exciting.
Gohan could beat Buu with a sword. Kaioshin's statements are true after all.
Pretty much not , its not like he could do more besides helping to defeat Babidi. Thats makes him a hero in his own ways.
"Subreme Kai" is higher than King Kai , pretty much more respectable than him , isn't it ? |
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| Cal | Jan 16 2013, 01:12 AM Post #34 |
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I may not deserve to live, but I will protect those in my reach with my reverse blade!
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I know mathematicians who can't count the number of times he was wrong in one arc.. Have to gang up on Pui Pui to win... Have to gang up on Yakon to win.. Gohan is the strongest among you.. Fight Buu with the sword!... Fuses with his barneywannabefriend.. "I'LL HELP FIGHT BUU WITH YOU. I'M STORNG ENOUGH NOW!' ...no you're not sit the ***** down |
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| Alex D. Boss | Jan 16 2013, 01:21 AM Post #35 |
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Because in Kaioshin's mind they were stronger , and thats true Those 2 are > Kaioshin. Gohan was the strongest , when Kaioshin noticed before he saw Goku/Vegeta's power. Fighting with sword was a advantage to defeat Buu Edited by Alex D. Boss, Jan 16 2013, 01:22 AM.
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| Nanho | Jan 16 2013, 01:21 AM Post #36 |
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How?
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| + Clearin | Jan 16 2013, 01:22 AM Post #37 |
 
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Babidi was expecting all 4 of them to fight together, it'd make no sense to send out someone weaker than Kaioshin (and thus Freeza) if he knew Kaioshin alone could one shot him. |
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| Nanho | Jan 16 2013, 01:24 AM Post #38 |
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Was it not obvious when I said king kai is alot more creditable/respectable, I meant from the perspective of the viewer? Edited by Nanho, Jan 16 2013, 01:27 AM.
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| Alex D. Boss | Jan 16 2013, 01:27 AM Post #39 |
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Chapter: 472 (DBZ 278), P1.1 Gohan: “So if I manage to pull this…eh…’Z Sword’ out, what will happen?” Kibito: “It is said that you will gain stupendous power…Probably enough to surpass even Majin Boo…” Kibito states that training with Z sword , you will increase stupendous power Chapter: 472 (DBZ 278), P7.6 Context: after Gohan pulls out the Z Sword but starts to doubt its strength Kibito: “What are you talking about?! That’s the strongest sword that’s been handed down in this sacred region. It definitely should be able to defeat Majin Boo…I think, though, that it’s no use if its wielder staggers around so much. You probably shouldn’t go into battle until you’ve become able to manipulate it freely…” Kaioshin expects Gohan may have a chance against Buu , since Kaioshin knows the power of Buu and Gohan. Edited by Alex D. Boss, Jan 16 2013, 01:29 AM.
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| Cal | Jan 16 2013, 01:28 AM Post #40 |
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I may not deserve to live, but I will protect those in my reach with my reverse blade!
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How do we know Supreme Kai is > Frieza? |
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| + Clearin | Jan 16 2013, 01:29 AM Post #41 |
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Chapter: 445 (DBZ 251), P14.1-5 Context: after hearing that Boo destroyed hundreds of planets Vegeta (thinking to himself): “Hmph…Even we Saiyans could do a thing like that…” Kaioshin: “No, Vegeta. At the time, there were 5 Kaioshins. Any one of them was good enough to defeat someone of Freeza’s level in a single blow…Out of those Kaioshins, 4 were killed by Majin Boo.” Goku: “Hieeh! A-amazin’…” Vegeta: “Th-that bastard…So he can even read minds, huh?” (He's one of those 5 Kaioshins) |
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| Alex D. Boss | Jan 16 2013, 01:30 AM Post #42 |
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Chapter: 445 (DBZ 251), P14.1-5 Context: after hearing that Boo destroyed hundreds of planets Vegeta (thinking to himself): “Hmph…Even we Saiyans could do a thing like that…” Kaioshin: “No, Vegeta. At the time, there were 5 Kaioshins. Any one of them was good enough to defeat someone of Freeza’s level in a single blow…Out of those Kaioshins, 4 were killed by Majin Boo.” |
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| Cal | Jan 16 2013, 01:30 AM Post #43 |
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I may not deserve to live, but I will protect those in my reach with my reverse blade!
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Oh, you mean we have a quote from one of the most consistently wrong persons in dbz? Quick, lemme change my opinion! Edited by Cal, Jan 16 2013, 01:31 AM.
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| + Clearin | Jan 16 2013, 01:36 AM Post #44 |
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I bet he was lying about Majin Buu too! That silly little purple man. I bet he's not even the East Kaioshin, he's probably like the South Kaioshin, and Kibito isn't his assistant, that's his brother! And Babidi isn't really physically weak, he's actually stronger than SSj Vegetto! And that planet they teleported Gohan to wasn't Kaioshins planet, it was Saturn. Oh and that sword isn't really the Z sword, it's Cloud's sword from FF7. Just because he's wrong about things doesn't make literally everything that comes out of his mouth wrong. You'd have to prove that quote is wrong. I'm pretty sure every single Z fighter has been wrong at least once, but we don't negate everything else they say because of it. |
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| Cal | Jan 16 2013, 01:39 AM Post #45 |
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I may not deserve to live, but I will protect those in my reach with my reverse blade!
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If it makes you feel any better I don't think he is a liar. I think he's just an idiot who's wrong more than he should be. Besides were talking about ranking power here not where the ***** he lives. How consistent is he with that ![:=]:](http://b1.ifrm.com/1500/25/0/e1137/e1137.gif) I keep losing count 
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