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| Topic Started: Oct 12 2009, 08:30 PM (1,902 Views) | |
| Kyonko | Oct 16 2009, 02:19 PM Post #31 |
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| Brian | Oct 16 2009, 03:31 PM Post #32 |
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My name is Brian Click, and my user name is also my first name. As intelligent and handsome as I am, it's not 'Brain.' -and yeah, you can quote me. I don't give a *****. Edited by Brian, Oct 16 2009, 03:31 PM.
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| -Zero- | Oct 16 2009, 07:25 PM Post #33 |
 
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No offense Brian but that response seems pretty rude, at least he asked nicely. Please force yourself to answer a little nicer when people ask nicely |
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| ryanson209 | Oct 16 2009, 09:12 PM Post #34 |
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I'm also looking for magazine/book articles... they can be online, as long as it appears in print somewhere out there. Anyone with ideas? Just looking for articles that state info about effects of allowing or not allowing it. |
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| Kotetsu | Oct 16 2009, 11:46 PM Post #35 |
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I'm about to go off on a tangent here, and this could totally add about 3 pages to your paper if you do it right. Read the yahoo answer below, feel free to research more into this idea if you feel like it. This might help you give the reader a perspective that isn't thought of very often. Basically the idea that Homosexuality is a natural tendency that is set in the brain after puberty. Making it essentially something as necessary as urges for adrenaline. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ao9JNSsAp0HsrDdSxQze7Xfsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20080128121627AAFGAXj http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/253/5023/1034 |
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| ryanson209 | Oct 20 2009, 10:46 PM Post #36 |
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I finished my paper, guys. I'm afraid to let anyone read it, though; if I get a good grade I will, but if I don't I won't. My biggest concern is that... even though I like writing, I didn't like writing this, and as such it isn't that great of a work. I also tried to remain unbiased, just listing causes and effects because that was the main reason for the essay, but even so the facts may not be "good enough" for the paper. BTW Brian, I decided against using you as a source. Sorry  I'll let you guys know soon! |
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Oct 25 2009, 02:24 PM Post #37 |
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"Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" as quoted by Thomas Jefferson So if we as a society are against the same-sex marriage we are against the foundation of what america is built a pond those unalienable rights that we a born with go figure |
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| Brian | Oct 25 2009, 04:22 PM Post #38 |
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Nah, that's alright. lol Well, I had no idea some people thought I was being disrespectful though. I totally wasn't. I just meant, sure, you can quote me or whatever and I don't mind. Gays should be able to marry! It's unfair that they can't! etc. |
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| -Zero- | Oct 25 2009, 04:37 PM Post #39 |
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I apologize then, the I dont give a.... part seemed harsh that's why I thought that. As for same sex marriage though should be allowed it never will. Somehow religion always gets involved with politics |
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| Kyonko | Oct 27 2009, 05:42 PM Post #40 |
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It is allowed in some countries, some have partial marrage others just don't allow it. |
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| DraculaCronqvist | Nov 29 2009, 07:57 PM Post #41 |
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Wow, I had no idea that so many DBZ fans were that open about gay-marriage. O.O Impressive. But to stay on topic, as a gay man, I am of course for same-sex Marriage. If straight people can, why can't we? It is nothing different... two people who love each other are forming a bond. |
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| jonnoley | Nov 29 2009, 11:36 PM Post #42 |
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In the UK, we have "Civil Partnerships", which is basically marriage for same sex couples that the church didn't want associated with. There's not been any fraud, or anything else unsavoury, because it's just marriage. There is literally no difference between marriage and civil partnerships. There is no logical reason why same sex marriage should not be allowed. And, I really have to bring this up, as much as I can see it going T*** up. And remember, I'm not trying to annoy anyone/start an argument, this is just something I've noticed, not simply here, although there have been a few examples on this site. In most religious arguments, or indeed any arguement as soon as someone brings up God, many aethiests bring up how reluctent/stubborn/aggresive religious people are when confronted with ideas that aren't the same as their own. But, look at your reaction to Temphis' views. Don't get me wrong here, I'm an aetheist myself, and used to hate religion (with a passion), but I've become infuriatingly tolerant recently, and I was actually annoyed at the anti-religious views expressed. Now, I do realise you can have your opinion, as no doubt a couple of people would shout at me if I hadn't put that in, but it seems like everyone wont let religious people have their views. Many people bring up how religions force their views upon people, but they don't realize that they're just forcing their views and opinions onto the religious people they are basically racist to. It's as if... Imagine if this was a polar opposite forum, where you all were arguing against same sex marriage, and DraculaCronqvist had come in saying he was gay. Imagine how "you" would have treated him, and then compare it to how you've treated all the religious people you've debated with. Yes, some Christians/Muslims/Jews/Aztecs are intolerably racist and intolerant. And I'll treat them as such. But many religious people have simply been brought up to believe something, and have a right to express their views without being attacked. BTW, any assumptions about how you treat people in this were based on how I myself used to treat religious people, and how I've seen far too many people act on the wonderful, life giving internet. And again, I really mean no offence with this, it's merely an off-topic observation that I could no longer contain. Anyway, same sex marriage FTW. |
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| Kyonko | Nov 30 2009, 12:13 AM Post #43 |
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Honestly, I think Temphis expected it, I have nothing against religious people or religion, just what it teaches, much like right to far-right politics. I mean the right-wing in politics is anti-gay, you only have to look at the US Republican party or some of the far-right groups in the UK. |
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| Kotetsu | Nov 30 2009, 03:00 AM Post #44 |
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Intolerance is intolerance, and is ignorant no matter how you look at it. That's pretty much a fact. |
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| Timmooo | Nov 30 2009, 10:05 AM Post #45 |
 
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I am totally for same-sex marriage and relationships and have nothing against them and have a lot of gay and lesbian friends. However in reply to what you said the way you are saying this is making it sound as if you are assuming that homosexuals only have sex for fun, without actually caring or loving the person. Your argument here seems to be saying that it is only wrong if you are not expressing love. While I personally am not homosexual, I am slightly bisexual, and can state for a fact that the one guy I do like is not a"omg, i want teh sex". It's because I care about them, and could easily come to love them just as much as I can feel the same for a girl. I'm not saying looks or anything plays no part as it does but only as much as it does for anyone else. Homosexual people are just as capable of love as heterosexuals and if they have sex with their partner to 'further express their love' they should be allowed to do so. You saying they aren't able to marry is just denying them the opportunity to do so in the same way as heterosexuals.
Can you please explain this further, if it is not approved by God, then how is it not a sin?? And vice-versa?? Which viewpoint are you supporting here. But by that same logic there are many other things the bible is against yet is fully accepted by all of society as we have progressed. For example, as already mentioned, was not religion used to discriminate against black people?? Yet now they are as accepted just as much as any other race, with Obama in the White House. So do you also believe that we should discriminate against all those races who are not the chosen race?? (Which from memory I believe is actually the Jews) Yet more than that the bible also has anti-women text, and pro-slavery text:
These are but a few quotes from the bible which are out there against many things which are considered morally and legally wrong in today's society but are now ignored. Do you also wish therefore to remove the rights to all of these people??
So you think they should only look at those they love and care for but not be allowed to touch them?? Would that not then count as adultery?? At the very least that would cause most people even more pain, being allowed to love someone but not engage in sex... /rant Also, while I do think NZ is generally a very open minded bunch of people i'm rather disappointed to see that we are on the Gay Panic Defense wiki as an example.... Though I am glad to see it has now been removed. ~Tim Edited by Timmooo, Nov 30 2009, 10:09 AM.
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