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Tien (End of DBZ) vs Frieza 50% Final Form; Take your bets
Topic Started: Oct 9 2009, 06:02 PM (10,535 Views)
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You say that power range for Cooler,Broly and SSJ Gogeta is correct. I disagree with that because its not for actual movie, its for Budokai 3 game.

Btw Broly beeing so close to SSJ Gogeta doesnt make sence.
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Jun 29 2012, 04:23 PM
You say that power range for Cooler,Broly and SSJ Gogeta is correct. I disagree with that because its not for actual movie, its for Budokai 3 game.

Btw Broly beeing so close to SSJ Gogeta doesnt make sence.
NOOOO. ME SEA E VYD THT BROY PNCH GOGTA AN BET HM SO BUD!!! BROY ES NER GOGTA.

^^Joking :lol: . Gogeta should be leagues above Broly
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Jun 29 2012, 04:23 PM
You say that power range for Cooler,Broly and SSJ Gogeta is correct. I disagree with that because its not for actual movie, its for Budokai 3 game.

Btw Broly beeing so close to SSJ Gogeta doesnt make sence.
800,000,000 isn't close. That's actually a rather large gap. Apt, considering how much Cell (Who's equivalent to Broly or close) failed against even Pikkon.
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Jun 29 2012, 04:34 PM
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Jun 29 2012, 04:23 PM
You say that power range for Cooler,Broly and SSJ Gogeta is correct. I disagree with that because its not for actual movie, its for Budokai 3 game.

Btw Broly beeing so close to SSJ Gogeta doesnt make sence.
800,000,000 isn't close. That's actually a rather large gap. Apt, considering how much Cell (Who's equivalent to Broly or close) failed against even Pikkon.
How? 800,000,000 is only 3 times weaker than 2,400,000,000 which is not that large. And Pikkon caught Cell and co while they were not on guard, and suppressed. Pikkon was probably on full power and used an attack that was probably his strongest. Anyway, Tien stomps.
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Jun 29 2012, 07:16 PM
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Jun 29 2012, 04:23 PM
You say that power range for Cooler,Broly and SSJ Gogeta is correct. I disagree with that because its not for actual movie, its for Budokai 3 game.

Btw Broly beeing so close to SSJ Gogeta doesnt make sence.
800,000,000 isn't close. That's actually a rather large gap. Apt, considering how much Cell (Who's equivalent to Broly or close) failed against even Pikkon.
How? 800,000,000 is only 3 times weaker than 2,400,000,000 which is not that large. And Pikkon caught Cell and co while they were not on guard, and suppressed. Pikkon was probably on full power and used an attack that was probably his strongest. Anyway, Tien stomps.
Cell = 1,400,000,000. Super Perfect Cell = 1,650,000,000, and was only defeated with a Father-Son Kamehameha.

That being said, I repeat, we're talking HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS. No matter what you're measuring, that's huge.

Returning to Tien vs. Frieza, Tien wins through a slight power advantage plus a larger support/defensive technique pool.
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where did these FAKE numbers come from?

and why is it you said father son kame blast?

that was gohan unleashed, we dont refer to video games and their moves in this forum.

read the manga, gohan waso nly encouraged by goku, there was no father son blast, no Ki given, only a pep talk. Goku is dead. Try again.

Super saquer, you can make excuses for cell all you want, he was reborn Super perfect, and Akira toriyama invented him, he knew what pikkon was for, pikkon easily knocks cell out, doesnt matter what excuse you use to say why.

Cell goes after goku, pikkon goes after cell. A kick to the face and karate chop to the neck puts him down for good.

Lighting or not, Cell is not an SSj2, and therefore doesnt need the characteristics of one in that state.

Pikkon used his burning shoot technique, and powered through a goku who used a super kaioken IN super saiyan.

So that easily puts pikkon at the bottom of his strength even with perfect cell.
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Jun 29 2012, 11:09 PM
where did these FAKE numbers come from?

and why is it you said father son kame blast?

that was gohan unleashed, we dont refer to video games and their moves in this forum.

read the manga, gohan waso nly encouraged by goku, there was no father son blast, no Ki given, only a pep talk. Goku is dead. Try again.
You're just determined to oppose every point I make, aren't you? They're estimates. Everyone does it. Broly, Bojack, and Perfect Cell are all relatively even (1,300,000,000 - 1,500,000,000). This is given by Broly's power estimate, as of V-Jump. As for the Father-Son Kamehameha, it is an official term. Gohan was too much of a wuss to unleash his full power on his own. Daddy had to hold his hand through it. Hence, Father-Son Kamehameha.

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Father-Son_Kamehameha

Have fun being a contrarian against me.
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I wasn't going to stick my head into this until I saw this...

"Akira wrote every movie except Broly, and XXX...."

LOL, is that why there are different writers creditted for every film?

Bull.

Toriyama did character designs. Similiar to GT. No involvment in ANY movie's story.
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Jun 29 2012, 11:19 PM
I wasn't going to stick my head into this until I saw this...

"Akira wrote every movie except Broly, and XXX...."

LOL, is that why there are different writers creditted for every film?

Bull.

Toriyama did character designs. Similiar to GT. No involvment in ANY movie's story.
I didn't say he wrote every movie except Broly. Least I don't think I did. Too lazy to check, but that's not really what I meant.

Look at the credits for the films. For many of them, he did do the story. For others, he simply did character designs.
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I haven't seen Toriyama's name on writer of any of those stories.

I don't even think they put him as writer on Path To Power, and he literally did create that entire story.

And in the Broly film, he did three character desgins, along with some input about Broly having a tail, yet I don't think his name is anywhere except on the Special Thanks and ''Story Based On''
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when it comes to debating there are theories and then there is the truth. We dont tout opinions as truth around here.

when you present numbers as facts it confuses people, the numbers simply reflect your opinion anyways, im actually here to encourage truth and opinion and disway those that would present their "truth" as real.

I also dont have Cells Zenkai very high either, but everything else was pure paraphrasing.
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Jun 29 2012, 11:32 PM
when it comes to debating there are theories and then there is the truth. We dont tout opinions as truth around here.

when you present numbers as facts it confuses people, the numbers simply reflect your opinion anyways, im actually here to encourage truth and opinion and disway those that would present their "truth" as real.

I also dont have Cells Zenkai very high either, but everything else was pure paraphrasing.
You act like your opinions and theories are truth. Basically this is your logic. My opinions > Other opinions. Which is childish. Even I concede sometimes.

@ Grid: He did several movies' storylines. And I specifically stated, more than once, that he did NOT do Broly.
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Can we at least all agree that Tien DESTROYS Freeza here?

Edit: Give me proof (not that dumb wiki with fake interviews) that he did EVEN ONE movie storyline.

Edited by GridZero, Jun 29 2012, 11:37 PM.
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Jun 29 2012, 11:36 PM
Can we at least all agree that Tien DESTROYS Freeza here?

Edit: Give me proof (not that dumb wiki with fake interviews) that he did EVEN ONE movie storyline.

A: You have no idea that they're fake.
B: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0142240/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0142233/


EDIT: I could do more, but I'm tired and you only asked for one. So laziness.
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Ah. You realize that the screenplay is the true storyline of the film.

Of course Akira made the story. They're all his characters that he created with his intellectual property.
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