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| The-Marksman | Oct 8 2009, 04:12 AM Post #1 |
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Is there ANYWHERE in the series, Manga, or Anime, where any half Saiyan (any of them) are shown to get a Zenkai bonus of any kind, even a minor one? If so, please be as specific as possible, thank you! |
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| + Rebel X | Oct 8 2009, 04:35 AM Post #2 |
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To clarify for those who don't know Zankai is a sort of power boost a Saiyan gets when they have recovered from a near death battle. So for example when Vegeta was on Namek and first faced Zarbon he couldn't beat Zarbon's Beast Form. However, after the battle Vegeta got a Zankai boost because he almost died in the battle and became even stronger when he recovered. He beat Zarbon the next time they faced each other. As for half-saiyan Gohan, Trunks, Goten, Bulla, and Pan. I honestly can't think of any that proved to get a big boost. They all trained in the hyperbolic time chamber or by sparring with one another to become stronger. I was thinking maybe Gohan got a boost when he was facing Cell but he was never really damage to the extend that he was almost dead and plus he never had time to recover from any of his beatings. Goten and Trunks didn't seem to get any stronger in battle when they first faced Buu with Piccolo to when they faced them in front of Gohan. The-Marksman, this is a really awesome development you've discovered. It seems that the human side is the dominating gene when it comes to becoming more powerful after a battle. Generally humans become stronger during training and working out like the boys Goten and Trunks did. Gohan never was in a situation where he fought someone, recovered and came back stronger. The only time he got more powerful was when he trained with someone or got a Boost from someone who could unlock more of his powers. Full Blooded Saiyan are the only ones that receive the full affect of a Zankai boost. Amazing Marksman. Unless someone can recollect a point in time where a half saiyan got Zankai then this really something that's been overlooked. If you worked for me, I''d give you a damn raise. |
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| The-Marksman | Oct 8 2009, 04:45 AM Post #3 |
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rofl Thanks Rebel, I appreciate your excitement in this discovery. As Ive mentioned before, Im working on a D&D race and class for Saiyans. After Im finished making full blooded Saiyans, I was gonna make Half Saiyans, and I wasnt sure if I was supposed to give the Half Saiyans the Zenkai bonus. At first I figured not, but I know there are a lot of REALLY knowledgable people on this forum when it comes to dragonball, most of which are far more knowledgable than myself, so I decided it was worth asking the DBZF community if they knew of any. Apparently, I was right. Also, while Im thinking of it, is there ANY evidence that says not all Half-Saiyans are born with tails? I mean a concrete statement in manga or anime that says "Such and such Half Saiyan wasnt born with a tail" or do we just assume they were all removed at birth or young age? Edited by The-Marksman, Oct 8 2009, 04:52 AM.
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| Emperor Cold | Oct 8 2009, 05:21 AM Post #4 |
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Gohan did get a zenkai boost after fighting 2nd form Frieza. Frieza beat him to within an inch of his life, then Dende healed him and Vegeta says "Just like the Saiyan that he is, his battle strength went up after he went through all that..." (vol. 9, pg 160). Of course Piccolo showed up at just that moment, driving Gohan's boost out of everyone's minds. But he did display some new strength when he held back 3rd from Frieza for a little bit. Granted, it was just an outburst, but he had a similar outburst against 2nd form Frieza, which only hurt him a little. To go from doing some minor damage to Frieza's 2nd form to actually almost driving his 3rd form into the ground with one blast indicates quite an increase in power. The only reason none of the other half-Saiyans never got a zenkai boost was because they just didn't happen to have a near death experience Edited by Emperor Cold, Oct 8 2009, 11:53 AM.
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| + Rebel X | Oct 8 2009, 11:49 AM Post #5 |
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Well their you go...I don't remember that scene but if Cold does then that's one scene that just canceled the entire theory. |
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| Emperor Cold | Oct 8 2009, 12:12 PM Post #6 |
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I don't think they mentioned it in the anime, but the quote I used was from the manga. I also included the volume and page number if you'd like to see it for yourself. But thanks for taking my word for it anyway
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| Super Goku | Oct 8 2009, 09:26 PM Post #7 |
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I specifically remember Gohan getting a zenkai from dende's healing, when freeza beat the crap out of him too. that happened. goten and trunks didnt fight enough, they never got one that we know of. theres a theory about once you reach the super saiyan form you stop receiving zenkai's as much. If this is true, perhaps it links to the theory that Goten and Trunks received the SSJ gene from their fathers. Since they have the gene and can go SSJ so easily, perhaps they dont get zenkais as often. this would work for pan and bulla too. it explains why only gohan got one. |
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| * Psyam | Oct 11 2009, 01:25 PM Post #8 |
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It can be assumed Gohan got a zenkai after he was healed by Kibito, as well. When he stood up he said "I feel even stronger then I was before!"...although that may of just been a Funimation line, someone would have to check. |
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| LinusMundane | Jan 12 2010, 04:04 AM Post #9 |
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He sure did say that, though I just assumed that it was something to do with kibito not really healing him so much as infusing him with power and since Gohan had amazing potential but was weaker then than when with Cell that his body just accepted more power. However, a Zenkai makes sense. |
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| chip8884 | Jan 17 2010, 06:40 PM Post #10 |
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When Gohan was fighting Frieza and Gohan was almost dead but Dende recovered him he got a Zenkai boost. We know this because when he did Masenko during Frieza's 3rd form (or maybe 2nd? im not sure), Piccolo was amazed on how strong it was. |
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| Graffiti | Jan 26 2010, 01:40 PM Post #11 |
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You guys shouldn't be bringing up a topic from October, but anyways.. If Cell was able to become stronger through a Zenkai boost (from his Saiyan cells) then why not the Half-Saiyans? |
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| GohanVidel | Feb 3 2010, 08:04 PM Post #12 |
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teen gohan was almost killed by majin buu. he was lying in the forrest for a long time. Then he was alot stronger when he went wit the supreme kai to train with the z sword |
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I love Gohan and Videl Dragon ball Z Forever "Guardian of the city, I am the one and only...Great Saiyaman!" - Gohan "Fight you? No, I wanna kill you." - Gohan to Super Buu "It will take more than head games to stop me! You may have invaded my mind and my body, but there's one thing a Saiyan always keeps...HIS PRIDE!" - Vegeta "There's no such thing as fair or unfair in battle. There is only victory, or in your case, defeat." - Vegeta "Servant woman, bring me a drying cloth at once!" - Vegeta "I am the hope of the universe. I am the answer to all living things that cry out for peace. I am protector of the innocent. I am the light in the darkness. I am truth. Ally to good! Nightmare to you!" - Goku | |
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| mr. penny packer | Jul 15 2010, 11:58 PM Post #13 |
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i thought gohan got a boost when he was almost killed by racoom as well, right before goku arrived on namek..he gives him a senzu bean. may not have been much of one, or even be noticeable because he didn't fight again until frieza, but i think he got one. |
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| J-Smack | Aug 5 2010, 06:52 AM Post #14 |
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Yes, it was mentioned in the anime, about Gohan being stronger after being kicked around by Frieza. Vegeta makes the comment, just like in the manga. So...yes they have Zankai. Anybody know where the term Zankai came from? |
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