Goku (post-Buu) vs. Frieza AND Cooler, Final Forms

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Goku (post-Buu) vs. Frieza AND Cooler, Final Forms
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ryanson209	Sep 25 2009, 10:35 PM Post #1
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BUU	Sep 26 2009, 12:29 AM Post #2
Posts: 148 Group: Member Member #4,313 Joined: July 15, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? internet explorer Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	By this time, Goku would kill Frieza and Cooler just by powering up. He wouldn't even have to turn Super Saiyan.



* Itagaki Manabu	Sep 26 2009, 03:31 AM Post #3
Posts: 4,635 Group: Retired Staff Member #832 Joined: November 6, 2005	Goku would win, he can go SSJ3.



+ Rebel X	Sep 26 2009, 06:05 AM Post #4
Posts: 11,612 Group: Legend Member #88 Joined: January 16, 2005	I think even by (post-Cell) he would be powerful enough to take on both of them in their final forms. Maybe before he went into the hyperbolic time chamber it'd be a good match but i dunno. After those 7 years of training in the Other World you'd think he could take on those two pretty easy



BUU	Sep 26 2009, 06:07 AM Post #5
Posts: 148 Group: Member Member #4,313 Joined: July 15, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? internet explorer Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	in the Android Saga (which is three years after), a good kaio-ken x20 kamehameha would end it.



ryanson209	Sep 26 2009, 03:28 PM Post #6
MAGICAL GIRLS REPRESENT Posts: 2,336 Group: Member Member #4,331 Joined: July 21, 2009 Favourite Anime Puella Magi Madoka Magica	Even against both? Wow. Easy fight.
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Super Goku	Sep 26 2009, 11:07 PM Post #7
Vizard Jinchurikii Posts: 966 Group: Member Member #4,266 Joined: June 26, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Naruto	base form is way strong enough. he's had 20 years of training since he met freeza.. he can handle them. for sure.
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+ Rebel X	Sep 26 2009, 11:33 PM Post #8
Posts: 11,612 Group: Legend Member #88 Joined: January 16, 2005	BUU Sep 26 2009, 06:07 AM in the Android Saga (which is three years after), a good kaio-ken x20 kamehameha would end it. I don't think he was that powerful. That's saying Vegeta could beat both of them at the same time when he first went super. I think Goku could beat them in the beginning of the Android Saga but he'd have to go Super if he were fighting both at the same time.



BUU	Sep 27 2009, 08:32 PM Post #9
Posts: 148 Group: Member Member #4,313 Joined: July 15, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? internet explorer Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	I'll break this down. When Frieza came back, he was far more powerful than ever. He was confident he could beat Goku from Namek. But Goku had been doing some training of his own, so he also powered up. Goku was shown to be at least even with Trunks, blocking all his sword attacks with one finger. now keep this in mind for the next part. Trunks was shown to be leagues above Frieza and King Cold, dealing with them with much ease. This means that Goku would have defeated King Cold and Mecha Frieza (who is far more powerful than 100% full power Frieza) with the same ease Trunks did. Which means his Super saiyan would be way too powerful for a decent fight. Cooler didn't do so good either. He himself was easily dominated by SS Goku. He had no chance at all. His supernova was indeed powerful if it was able to make SS Goku struggle, in fact in could've been a little stronger than SS Goku than all we know. But how did SS Goku push it back? Simple, the kamehameha. The kamehameha multiplies the user's power by 2.5, which was more than enough to push the Supernova back. So, basically, Super Saiyan Goku at the Trunks saga was leagues above Mecha Frieza and Cooler. In fact, at this time, kaio-ken x10 or x20 would have put a very good fight against 100% full power Frieza, since he powered up so much. Now, think about it. If kaio-ken x10 or x20 would give 100% full power Frieza trouble, imagine what would happen three years later. The Z fighters were shown to be able to raise their power levels to extreme rates in just a year. Frieza would be defeated by kaio-ken x3 or x5 and Cooler would either take Kaio-ken x10 or x20.



+ Rebel X	Oct 1 2009, 05:24 AM Post #10
Posts: 11,612 Group: Legend Member #88 Joined: January 16, 2005	We've already answered the question that Goku would win this easy against all of the Cold family at their highest levels and we agree in that... My opinion on if he could handle them in the Android Saga and I'm referring to the three years of training right before is heart disease hit. Way before he went into the hyperbolic time chamber. When Frieza came back to Earth it was said that he was more powerful than he was before. He wasn't at a whole new level, but he did increase his power we've established that before. Frieza felt he could stand against Goku but he still feared Super Saiyans especially whe he saw flashbacks of Goku and saw Trunks transform. I would not say that Trunks was "leagues" ahead of Frieza because when I hear that I think the difference in power level between SSJ1 and SSJ2. Trunks beat him but he knew he had to go Super Saiyan to beat him. Trunks doesn't hold back when he knows he has a job to do. He sliced him quick because he had to and couldn't risk making a mistake and losing himself and his mission. Goku could beat Frieza as easily as Trunks did. Cooler's attack took Goku to "desperate" level where he had to go all out to Super Sayian. What I mean is that he COULD NOT beat Cooler in his final form at all without going Super. He tried Kaio-Ken several times and Cooler wasn't even touched. This fight happened in between the End of Friezas death and before Android Saga, sometime between those 3 yrs. He needed to use the kamehameha to push the Super Nova away and send him to the sun. It wasn't simple at all b/c he struggled against the attack at first. once cooler left the atmosphere then things got easier. As much as the kamehameha increases his power he would have to go further than Kaio-Ken x20 to do any damage. He can beat Cooler and Frieza at their highest levels during the Android Saga but he would have to go Super. End of Z or Buu Saga he could take on the Cold Family probably without going Super.



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