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2009-2010 European Champions League
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* Light	Oct 3 2009, 02:19 PM Post #16
Yo Posts: 5,563 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,705 Joined: October 5, 2007 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom Favourite Manga The Story of Light the Legend by Cal/DBZF Invasion! by Copy_Ninja	Arsenal haven't had a bad start. 4 wins - 2 losses, the losses coming against two very strong sides in Manchester united and Manchester city scored 18 goals in the Premier league in 6 games, conceded 8. And there top of there group with 2 wins out of 2. Barcelona drew against Internazionale, Barcelona played their strong team as well. If anyone looks unbeatable so far i'd say it's Real.



* Mitas	Oct 3 2009, 02:21 PM Post #17
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	Arsenal aren't struggling, they're 6th, 3 points off of 3rd and 4th with a game in hand. Like I've said so many times; you can't judge teams on 6/7 games. The problem is that now Man City and Tottenham are up there and breaking up the top 4 so one or two of them are going to be dropping in and out of those Champions League places, it just so happens to be Arsenal at this moment. It'll probably be Liverpool soon as they're failling to get any consistency. As for the Bundesliga, it's so tight that you win a match and you're top, you lose a match and you drop 7 places. I wouldn't write off Wolfsburg just yet. It's just a change for them to be fighting on two fields; Europe and at home. Trust me, they'll be title contenders this season. I would say they'd win it, but the Bundesliga is so open it's impossible to predict. And is this the same 'consistant' Bayern Munich that are 7th in the league and failed to qualify for the Champions League not too long ago.
	"Then you've got the chance to do better next time." "Next time?" "Course. Doing better next time. That's what life is."


Mc Esse	Oct 3 2009, 02:34 PM Post #18
Posts: 2,273 Group: Member Member #4,041 Joined: March 21, 2009 Favourite Anime Jersey Shore What Browser do you use? FF Favourite Manga Batman	Well Bayern Munich only missed out once as long as I can remember, and they usually make it past the 1st round as well. And every year they have star players, this year to; Klose,Toni, Ribery, Van Bommel. With those players I don't see how anyone can rule them out from winning the Champions League. bah last time I checked Bayern was 3rd... Edited by Mc Esse*, Oct 3 2009, 02:35 PM.



* Mitas	Oct 3 2009, 03:55 PM Post #19
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	I wasn't ruling them out of winning it, I just said that they haven't been conistent these past few years. I agree with Light that Madrid are looking unstoppable with Ronaldo playing phenomenally. They should top their group as Milan are looking dodgy, in the league and in Europe. They've fallen a long way these past few years. Although they were asking for it, hanging on to an aging squad and then giving the reigns to an untried manager. I don't give Leonardo much longer.
	"Then you've got the chance to do better next time." "Next time?" "Course. Doing better next time. That's what life is."


Mc Esse	Oct 3 2009, 06:24 PM Post #20
Posts: 2,273 Group: Member Member #4,041 Joined: March 21, 2009 Favourite Anime Jersey Shore What Browser do you use? FF Favourite Manga Batman	Quote: I wasn't ruling them out of winning it, I just said that they haven't been consistent these past few years. Making it past the 1st round on most occasions sounds pretty consistent to me. You can't win it every year, lol. Serie A has 3 problems, they're all related to money 1) They don't have as much money as La Liga or the EPL. Don't get me wrong, they have alot of money. Just not as much. Which is why they're currently saving their money, unlike the top teams of the EPL or La Liga. 2) They are not an independant entity, such as the EPL. They have to pay tariffs for Serie B, Serie C1 all the way down the barrel because they are absorbed in the whole body known as Lega Calcio. Although that's going to change next year, which brings me back to #1, they're saving money. 3)Italy is known worldwide for it's North/South class struggle. The North has alot of money, the south is rather poor. Which is why the only teams that usually have a serious chance for Serie A are Juventus or Milan. Without them, Serie A would be another Bundesliga. In conclusion, Serie A always scouts the best players. Zidane, Ronaldo, Ibrahimovic, Shevchenko, Cannavaro, Kaka. All those players have sold out to either Real Madrid, Barcelona or an English team. Another thing, I remember when Barcelona gave Zambrotta such a big contract, and he did ***** with them. He's not even a big name but they gave him a nice contract. Also in the 2000's Real Madrid offered Totti 3 times more than what he earns in Rome, although he denied it claiming he does not play for the money.



Mc Esse	Oct 24 2009, 08:00 PM Post #21
Posts: 2,273 Group: Member Member #4,041 Joined: March 21, 2009 Favourite Anime Jersey Shore What Browser do you use? FF Favourite Manga Batman	Somebody was right about Liverpool's inconsistency. If they are not struggling, I don't know what is. 4 losses in 9 games in England, while they have more losses than wins at the moment in Europe. With the defensive talent, and the offensive power, the team should not be underperforming... They have the leagues leading scorer in Torres! Although a relief of good news is that Aquilani is back from injury therefore the central passing lanes should be more accurate. On paper they have one of the top 3 talents in the EPL, yet they're upstaged by good, yet inferior talented teams such as Tottenham or Man City. I was surprised that AC Milan beat Roma and Real Madrid the past 2 games. Although Roma and Real were both missing good players, Totti and Ronaldo. Edited by Mc Esse, Oct 24 2009, 08:01 PM.



* Mitas	Dec 10 2009, 02:25 PM Post #22
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	Well the group stages are over and the last 16 teams have been decided: Group A: Bordeaux, Bayern Munich Group B: Man U, CSKA Moscow Group C: Real Madrid, AC Milan Group D: Chelsea, Porto Group E: Fiorentina, Lyon Group F: Barcelona, Inter Milan Group G: Sevilla, Stuttgart Group H: Arsenal, Olympiacos The major surprise is Liverpool not making it through the group stages. They've been poor all season, in both Europe and the league. Juventus also threw it away at the last hurdle with a 4-0 hammering by Bayern Munich. I was also surprised that Wolfsburg were eliminated at the expense of CSKA Moscow as I had them down as Dark Horses to win the competition. Barca and Inter both made it through in the end after uncertainty surrounding both of their group stage campaigns. Rubin Kazan made a fine attempt at pushing them both but ultimately didn't have the experience and skill that the other two possess. Bordeaux also surprised everybody by topping their group, unbeaten (5 wins and a draw in a group with Juventus and Bayern). Who do you think are the front-runners to win the competition now? I hate to say it, but Man U look strong even when they put out their 'reserve' team. Time will tell whether they can handle the massive injury list and keep it up for the rest of the season as the games start coming thick and fast, but they're definately favourites in my eyes.
	"Then you've got the chance to do better next time." "Next time?" "Course. Doing better next time. That's what life is."


Mc Esse	Dec 10 2009, 08:35 PM Post #23
Posts: 2,273 Group: Member Member #4,041 Joined: March 21, 2009 Favourite Anime Jersey Shore What Browser do you use? FF Favourite Manga Batman	Real Madrid and Fiorentina Real Madrid has played amazing even in their loss to AC Milan when they were Ronaldoless Firoentina, once the laughing stock of Italy have proven to be able to play both offensivley and defensivley, which is the best way to win tournmanents. BTW; Juventus is full of ***. Buffon is full of *. The guy was playing injured all season just so he could have played Inter during the season. The Inter game came and he played good in a 2-1 win. Bayern came, and he played like an injured goalie in the worst loss of his career. He got operated today Can you say selfish? With Liverpool also downgraded to Europa league were' going to have two world class tournmanets this spring. Imagine Inter slipped as well. Idk which tourney would have been more prestiguous. Edited by Mc Esse**, Dec 10 2009, 08:36 PM.



* Mitas	Dec 10 2009, 10:19 PM Post #24
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	You're right about the Europa League, definately some top teams in there. A lot of Liverpool fans are saying that we'll win it if we go all out, but I don't think so. Fiorentina are good but I don't think they're good enough to win it. I don't think an Italian team will get to the Semi-Finals, let alone win it.
	"Then you've got the chance to do better next time." "Next time?" "Course. Doing better next time. That's what life is."


Mc Esse	Dec 10 2009, 10:42 PM Post #25
Posts: 2,273 Group: Member Member #4,041 Joined: March 21, 2009 Favourite Anime Jersey Shore What Browser do you use? FF Favourite Manga Batman	We definably won't see another English domination, so anything's possible this year I guess :lol:. Right now the most talented teams on paper would be. Manchester .Utd Barcelona Real Madrid Chelsea Inter I'd like to say AC Milan has a shot of making the Semi Finals though. Don't forget that they can match up to the powers of England and Spain with their talent of attack; Pato, Ronaldinho, Hunterlar. Power defending from Nesta, Zambrotta, Kaldhaze. Seedorf, Gattuso and Pirlo are a good set peice in the midfield, and Inzaghi can still score being an old man who usually plays about 20-30 mins a night. I'm surprised nobody picked them to win the tournmanent, I don't even know why I put Inter Milan on my short list lol..



* Mitas	Dec 10 2009, 10:55 PM Post #26
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	Inter Milan are an immense team, shown by their domination of Serie A, but they can't seem to transfer that to Europe. They are a much better team than AC Milan. Arsenal are a more 'talented' team than all of the teams you mentioned bar Barcelona (who I believe they're on a par with, but Barcelona are better tactically), and I think they are definately in the list of favourites. Bayern Munich are another 'talented' team that deserve to be mentioned amongst those teams. Lyon are dark horses. They get that tag every campaing but this year they've shown that they can hack it with the big boys of Europe and really play.
	"Then you've got the chance to do better next time." "Next time?" "Course. Doing better next time. That's what life is."


Mc Esse	Dec 10 2009, 11:07 PM Post #27
Posts: 2,273 Group: Member Member #4,041 Joined: March 21, 2009 Favourite Anime Jersey Shore What Browser do you use? FF Favourite Manga Batman	Quote: Inter Milan are an immense team, shown by their domination of Serie A, but they can't seem to transfer that to Europe. They are a much better team than AC Milan. Serie A is another word for Mafia. Don't compare AC Milan to Inter based on Inter's phantom domination of a league that is run by criminals. AC Milan is the better team. I don't even know why I put Inter on that list of 5. lol Edited by Mc Esse, Dec 10 2009, 11:09 PM.



* Mitas	Dec 10 2009, 11:29 PM Post #28
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	I don't agree with that at all. Yes there were scandals, but in the massive investigation it was AC Milan that were found guilty (amongst other teams) and not Inter. It's not a 'phantom domination', Inter are by far the best squad in the league. Eto'o, Milito, Julio Cesar, Sneijder and Maicon would all get into the AC Milan starting XI. Not to mention Zanetti, Suazo, Thiago Motta, Ballotelli who are alll good players too.
	"Then you've got the chance to do better next time." "Next time?" "Course. Doing better next time. That's what life is."


Mc Esse	Dec 10 2009, 11:39 PM Post #29
Posts: 2,273 Group: Member Member #4,041 Joined: March 21, 2009 Favourite Anime Jersey Shore What Browser do you use? FF Favourite Manga Batman	Inter's 4 straight league titles? really? 4 straight? Didn't Juventus win the title in '05? And '06? I bet Inter was associated with the people who busted Juve, Fiorentina and AC. ***, Inter had 0 titles in 15 years before all this. Even *in Lazio and Udinese did better than them in some of those 15 years. Inter is full of *** man. Actually, the reason why Inter choke in Europe is because they're not even good in the 1st place. Serie A is a scam. Why did I put them in my top 5.. replace them with AC Milan, a real good team.



* Mitas	Dec 11 2009, 12:07 AM Post #30
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	This just sounds like a bitter AC Milan fan to me :P Man U have won something like 10 of the last 15 premiership titles but that's not a fix. The reason behind this is that they came into domination at the time the Premiership was created and money came flowing into the league. They capitalised on this and that set them up for future success. LYon won 7 French titles in a row. Celtic and Rangers win almost every Scottish title. It happens in a lot of leagues. Success leads to success. If I knew enough about Italian football then I could explain why Inter have won so many titles, but it certainly isn't a scam.
	"Then you've got the chance to do better next time." "Next time?" "Course. Doing better next time. That's what life is."


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