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Spartan vs Ninja
Topic Started: Aug 24 2009, 02:12 PM (398 Views)
Viddy Veechi Aug 31 2009, 08:17 PM Post #31
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In hindsight, the simulation is like trying to say Sprite is better than Pepsi. They're both soft drinks, but it would be far more accurate to claim Sprite was better than Mountain Dew or Lemonade rather than Coke or Pepsi, as it's an entirely different flavour.

Ninja's are masters of assassination, and there isn't anything likely to happen in hand to hand combat that will give a ninja what effectively is an "insta-kill". Especially against a warrior that is trained to fight in a hand to hand fight. Spartans are not assassins, they're soldiers. Ninjas are not soldiers, they are assassins. Pepsi is a Cola, Sprite is lemony lime flavoured. They're too different to be pitted in a one on one because the outcome is always going to be "unfair".
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Mc Esse Sep 1 2009, 10:35 PM Post #32
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Spartans didn't really use guerrila warfare, they would have lured enimies into where they would want them, but that's not the same thing.

I thought that was considered guerrila. At the end of 300, the Spartans would have ambushed the Persians in the valley and defeated them, if they hadn't gotten defeated.

Although now I'm curious,anybody, show me one ninja clan (or ninja) that has achieved anything good in popular history.
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Anything good? They were murdering bastards and thieves.
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Anything good? They were murdering bastards and thieves.
Prove it. I'm not denying you until you fail to come up with proof that doesn't rely on stories based on fiction.

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Ninjas were infamous for their thievery and filthy murdering tactics. Are you kidding me?

I'd assume you've never touched more than a few pieces of literature in your life if you didn't know this.
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Mc Esse Sep 5 2009, 03:27 AM Post #36
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Ninjas were infamous for their thievery and filthy murdering tactics.

So was the Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves, but his literature is fictional.

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I'd assume you've never touched more than a few pieces of literature in your life if you didn't know this.

Surprisingly I touched much more than a few pieces of literature. Yet most of the literature I read is either non-fictional or based on a true story. I never ever read anything about ninjas though, which is why I kindly asked if anybody can proof an actual mission or battle that a ninja (clan) won. There were dozens of pages in many history books which I bought for my enjoyment which described Spartans, and their succeses. I never read anything about ninjas. I'm not surprised though. Western Civ. books tend to neglect history from the far east such as China and Japan.. [sarcasm]which is where ninjas live right[/sarcasm]?

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Well here is a page that has a lot of info about ninjas, and what the actually did. it is a lot, so look under the Iga and Koga Ninja part, its says what they do, and says where they are referenced at. ninja info

You can't actually believe that ninjas were not real, do you? Just because its not in all of american history. Thats like china saying that cowboys arn't real, just because they don't have any in china.
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You can't actually believe that ninjas were not real, do you? Just because its not in all of american history. Thats like china saying that cowboys arn't real, just because they don't have any in china.
I don't think that's what Mc Esse maens, he's just wanting some facts of ninja triumphs as they aren't as well documented as Spartan victories in the text he reads. Which is fair enough. I too know very little about nnjas, beyond the general assassin conception.
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In the page that i posted, it said that is basically all they were. There missions most of the time, where to sneak into castles at night, and kill off kings. So basically there were ment for assassination only. There wouldn't be a lot of evidence left behind, at least not if they were as good as they should be. They are like our black ops, they go in undetected and if it goes as planned, then they get out undetected. However they are much better than black ops, because only 1 had to be sent in to do the work.
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spartans are the ultimate warior. the stop at nothing and destroy there enemies. the ninja would die to the spartan

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In the actual episode the computer simulation was as follows
Overall Kills: Spartan: 653 / Ninja: 347
Close Range Weapons Spartan Short Sword: 52 / Ninja Ninjato: 123
Mid Range: Spartan Spear: 210 / Ninja Black Egg: 0
Long Ranger: Spartan Javelin:9 / Ninja Shuriken: 0 Blowgun: 4
Special Weapons : Spartan Shield 382 / Ninja Kusarigama: 220
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So the blowgun and the shuriken manage to top 4 kills? Riiight. Sounds perfectly accurate, out of a 1,000 time simulation.
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