Welcome Guest
[Log In]
[Register]
- Dragonball Z Forum
- →
- General Discussion
- →
- Talk about anything
- →
- Deep Discussion
- →
- Spartan vs Ninja
@import "http://lib.zetabin.com/jQuery/facebox/facebox.css";
| We hope you enjoy your visit to this forum. If you are reading this then it means you are currently browsing the forum as a guest, we don’t limit any of the content posted from guests however if you join, you will have the ability to join the discussions! We are always happy to see new faces at this forum and we would like to hear your opinion, so why not register now? It doesn’t take long and you can get posting right away. Click here to Register! If you're already a member please log in to your account: |
| Spartan vs Ninja | |
|---|---|
| Topic Started: Aug 24 2009, 02:12 PM (395 Views) | |
| Mc Esse | Aug 24 2009, 02:12 PM Post #1 |
<3
|
I remeber the Tyson vs Lee argument spiked attention, and Kotetsu once mentionned a Pirates vs Ninja thing that went on. Well, this is more than just a written debate. Tell me how accurate you think this was simulated, and how entertaining it was. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMNX3bkzWBY Personally I think it's great, they make a show related to this type of stuff. Two warriors from different eras and regions who would never meet, and they pit them off against each other. Others include Pirate vs Knight, Apache Indian vs Roman Gladiator, Irish Republican Army vs The Taliban. If this gets attetion we'll get more into the show in another topic, but for now enjoy the video. |
|
http://dbzf.co.uk/blog/main/4022364/ [-I grew up on the crime side} {-The New York Times side} [-No question I would speed, for cracks and weed] {-The combination made my eyes bleed} [-Though I don't know why I chose to smoke sess] [-I guess that's the time when I'm not depressed} | |
 |
 
|
| Sousen Ichimonji | Aug 24 2009, 04:07 PM Post #2 |
Generic Disney Villain
|
Yeah, I love that show. Deadliest Warrior is awesome. I agree the Spartan should have won. Ninja's are over-rated, methinks. *Is slain by a ninja that had been hiding in my room* |
 Thanks to AngelicHottieDS for the sig - I owe you one! ...And it feels so good to be Alive and on top My reach is global My tower secure My cause is noble My power is pure I can hand out a million vaccinations Or let'em all die in exasperation Have'em all healed of their lacerations Or have'em all killed by assassination... | |
|
|
|
| Brian | Aug 25 2009, 09:28 PM Post #3 |
Homosexual Ogre
|
With all of the instant-death tactics of the ninja, I totally didn't agree with this particular episode. Glass eggs? Poisoned darts? These are surefire kill tactics if they succeed, and they may. The thing I don't understand is that, well, they must think a ninja is going to fight an armored enemy. No. He's gonna run, and he's gonna shoot him in the leg with a poisoned dart. That's pretty damn simple. That's how he killed the samurais. He's a cheap ***** hole, and he'll use dirty tactics to beat an otherwise entirely dominant enemy. |
 "They wanna take your women." - Too inappropriate for DBZF | |
|
|
|
| Super Goku | Aug 26 2009, 02:27 AM Post #4 |
Vizard Jinchurikii
|
This was tricky. i remember seeing the episode.. i thought ninja should have one. but really, i understand how if the ninja gets too close, the spartan has a shield and a spear.....very dangerous in close combat. theyre both totally 1337 in my book though |
 BURNING HELL FTW | |
|
|
|
| Kotetsu | Aug 26 2009, 02:47 AM Post #5 |
SOUPER SAYIN THREE
|
First of all, in that video, a Ninja would never attack in broad day light. If he was to do so, he'd have used the following. # Nyudaki no jutsu - Using a psychological weakness in the guard (da meaning "idleness" and ki meaning "a dislike for being industrious"). # Yoji-gakure - Distraction. (For example, throwing an object to distract a guard: yoji-gakure no jutsu involved the classic move of throwing an object in order to distract.) # Joei-on jutsu - Erasing light and sound. (For example, keeping a light between themselves and a guard in order to distract him, as this would also make it harder for any guard to see them.) This is a sub article of the main Shinobi-iri Which means Study of Stealth. In terms of shear strength and disregard for ones personal well being, the Spartan has that down. However in a fight between brain and brawn, a calm ninja who organizes his attack will always win. A GOOD ninja would never be caught off guard in order to be prepped for a sword blow. |
     |Forum Rules|GFX Leagues|DBZF Parliament| | |
|
|
|
| Mc Esse | Aug 26 2009, 04:47 AM Post #6 |
|
<3
|
Although a Spartan would never fight in the shade alone! He'd be with a large army. In another clash of West vs East, ironically the Samurai beat the Viking in their respective fight. You guys are mentionning the ninja has stealth capabilities that were not included in this fight. Although, I think the Spartan has guerilla warfare tactics of his own... the guy was a solider in the army for crying out loud! This video expressed what would happen in one on one fight. geurilla warfare and stealth aren't much of one on one fights... |
|
http://dbzf.co.uk/blog/main/4022364/ [-I grew up on the crime side} {-The New York Times side} [-No question I would speed, for cracks and weed] {-The combination made my eyes bleed} [-Though I don't know why I chose to smoke sess] [-I guess that's the time when I'm not depressed} | |
|
|
|
| Trickster | Aug 26 2009, 09:10 AM Post #7 |
|
Ninja
|
Both sides have pro's and cons. The spartans were pretty much at the top in there time, and some may say there still close to the top even up til now. Every spartan was a master at almost all fighting. Just one of them would be able to take out a dozen without getting hit, because of how they fought. Each spartan was able to watch his back, plus the soldiers next to him, so attacking one spartan, ment you would get hit back from possibly multiple spartans. That is also there downfall, they are trained to be in groups, so fighting one on one, while still a master at a lot of fighting, he is weakened just by being alone. Now ninja's, also, are masters at what they do. any true ninja would kill without being seen. Because of there ability to be unseen. They would blend into the surroundings, somehow move without any noise. They were trained to stay at a distance unless they were forced to get close. They knew they body, what parts were weak. There problem was that, even though they could do close quarters battle, they were weak at it. When it comes down to it though, i think that the ninja would win. The spartan would crush him up close, and at some point it would come to being up close. But the ninja could easily blind the spartan, and stay 2 steps ahead of him. Because no matter how skilled the spartan is, without sight and sound, he would have no way of fighting. And the ninja is able to blind him, and move around in silence. |
 A true worrior becomes a legend A true saiyan becomes a GOD | |
|
|
|
| Viddy Veechi | Aug 26 2009, 12:28 PM Post #8 |
If I Could, Would You?
|
... Spartan's are blood thirsty warriors from the ancient greek times. Ninja's use strategy rather than brute srength to overwhelm an opponent. It's similar to somebody like James Bond or Jason Bourne assasinating somebody like Mike Tyson or other well-built atheletes. It's entirely possible for somebody to do that. If you look at it logically the entire pairing isn't a fair fight, because as Kotetsu said, a ninja wouldn't attack in broad daylight. They'd use the shadow, or environment to avoid being seen like he failed doing at the start when he crept up behind the spartan. A proper ninja would have finished that there and then, not gotten into a brawl. A brawl against a spartan would finish a ninja, and that's just one spartan. If one ninja had to fight a squad or an army, he'd have to do it at night, with enhanced senses, equipment and have an extremely good sense of strategy and his surroundings to even think of being able to take them all out. Close combat wise, a ninja hasn't got much chance. It doesn't matter how many times he does fancy flipping and waving a weapon around, Spartans would rip him to shreds with their bare hands if they had to. They were ruthless. |
  ..:: We Die Young ~ | ~ DFMike Fan ::.. | |
|
|
|
| Brian | Aug 26 2009, 01:21 PM Post #9 |
|
Homosexual Ogre
|
No man, ruthless or not, powerful or not, wielding the heart and courage of a warrior or not, is going to survive poison in his blood or see with glass and concentrated acidic juices in his eyes. Strategy here against the human body and its uses is winning in cheap fashion. |
|
"They wanna take your women." - Too inappropriate for DBZF | |
|
|
|
| MajinFUSION | Aug 26 2009, 01:28 PM Post #10 |
|
Spartan Would Have Kicked Ninjas Arse 
|
| |
|
|
|
| Kotetsu | Aug 26 2009, 02:42 PM Post #11 |
|
SOUPER SAYIN THREE
|
A spartan wouldn't see a poison tipped paralysis needle coming and hitting his neck or leg. The spartan would not have won. |
|
|Forum Rules|GFX Leagues|DBZF Parliament| | |
|
|
|
| Brian | Aug 26 2009, 03:25 PM Post #12 |
|
Homosexual Ogre
|
That post has no value. Explain why, and be sure and take the things I've said into account. |
|
"They wanna take your women." - Too inappropriate for DBZF | |
|
|
|
| Kyonko | Aug 27 2009, 06:27 PM Post #13 |
=^-^=
|
And as stated, a ninja wouldn't fight in daylight and most likly not alone either, not against an army anyway, as for the video, some of the things looked a little silly, I mean right from the start, why would a ninja expose himself for a close attack when he carries long range weapons, the spartan had his back to him, a close attack would be a risk. As for spartan guerilla warfare, I don't think so, they are a more brute force army than a guerilla one, well trained yes, but probably not so well trained for guerilla warfare. The standered army that countries have now aren't really trained in guerilla warfare, special forces are but not the standered army soldier. Armour is heavy to carry around hence why ninjas aren't armoured, they need less weight to move around more freely. I also find it odd that the ninja in that video didn't use the trees or other oppertunities to hide and gain the advantage again. In a brute force battle, yes, a spartan would win but it goes against what a ninja is really trained for. The ninja had plenty of opertunities in that video but seemed not to make use of them. |
 [Cyber Nations|Forum Rules|GFX Leagues|DBZF Parliament] 
| |
|
|
| Kotetsu | Aug 27 2009, 09:17 PM Post #14 |
|
SOUPER SAYIN THREE
|
Right, Like 7o9 said, the spartan's moves and ways of battle were actually pretty accurate, however the ninja was not. |
|
|Forum Rules|GFX Leagues|DBZF Parliament| | |
|
|
|
| Brian | Aug 29 2009, 03:45 PM Post #15 |
|
Homosexual Ogre
|
As though it's actually difficult to depict simplistic, one-sided combat tactics though. |
|
"They wanna take your women." - Too inappropriate for DBZF | |
|
|
|
| 1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous) | |
| Go to Next Page | |
| « Previous Topic · Deep Discussion · Next Topic » |
| Track Topic · E-mail Topic |
 4:10 AM Mar 12
|
Affiliates |
 | |
