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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 17 2009, 06:39 PM (1,674 Views) | |
| The-Marksman | Aug 17 2009, 06:39 PM Post #1 |
 
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Who would win if Turles (after eating 1 fruit from Tree of Might) fought Jeice from the day he fought Goku on Namek? At first I was going to make this Turles VS Captain Ginyu but that didnt feel balanced, and I could see all of the potential body switch replies so I decided Jeice would be better. |
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| Nothing | Aug 17 2009, 09:48 PM Post #2 |
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Turles wins for sure...he seemed very strong after he had eaten the fruit of might. His PL was probably bigger than Captain Ginyu's at that point. Jeice's PL is something in the neighborhood of 40 000 ,while Turles' (after eating the fruit) was probably above 100 000. So...Turles wins for sure 
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| rob | Aug 18 2009, 12:12 AM Post #3 |
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if i remember correctly turles is from really early in the series, so if goku was just able to defeat him then, then my vote goes for jeice. ok, well after that correction my vote now goes to turles. Edited by rob, Aug 18 2009, 10:48 PM.
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| BUU | Aug 18 2009, 01:17 AM Post #4 |
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To settle this, we must determine how strong each fighter is. Let's start with Jeice. Captain Ginyu has a power level of 120,000 as stated by Jeice. Since Jeice is second in command, he would be a little weaker. So, let's place his power around 100,000-115,000. Now on to Turles. It was stated by Turles himself that Goku had a power level of roughly 30,000. A battle ensued with the two being roughly equal with Goku gaining a slight edge, which meant that Turles' power level was comparable to 30,000. After eating a piece of fruit from the Tree of Might, Turles' power level increased dramatically. Goku then multiplied his Kaio-ken by tenfold to try and match him, but Turles defeated Goku's Kaioken x10 with ease. Goku's power level was roughly 300,000 when he used the Kaio-ken x10. If Turles was able to defeat that with ease, this would possibly put Turles at a level to where he could rival that of Frieza in his first form, who had a confirmed power level of 530,000. Because of the big power difference, this fight would be over in less than 5 minutes. Turles would destroy Jeice in a few ki blasts. And rob, Goku only beat Turles because he used a spirit bomb with the energy of the Tree of Might. If he didn't take the energy, he would have died. Turles wins. NOTE: An interesting fight would be Turles verses First form Frieza. |
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| * Psyam | Aug 18 2009, 02:04 AM Post #5 |
 
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Your right on the rest, but Jeice's power level is no where near that high. Recoome's power level was around 40,000-50,000 and he, Jeice and Burter were supposed to be roughly equal in power, but each with their own unique strengths (Recoome stamina, Jeice Ki blasts and Burter speed). Captain Ginyu was much stronger then all three of them, though. That's why he's the captain, after all. He outclasses his team by quite a lot. Even Goku admitted he was much stronger then the rest of the Ginyu Force. |
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| BUU | Aug 18 2009, 06:58 AM Post #6 |
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oops. forgot about that!  Wow, this wouldn't even be a fight. It would be a warm up for Turles. I think that Turles before eating the fruit would be a better fight, but I feel that Jeice would win because of a 10,000 -20,000 power difference. Turles before eating fruit: around 30,000 Turles after eating fruit: around 400,000-530,000 Jeice: around 40,000-50,000 Ginyu: 120,000 Edited by BUU, Aug 18 2009, 06:59 AM.
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| The-Marksman | Aug 18 2009, 12:32 PM Post #7 |
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Okay, rather than make a new thread, lets change this to Turles (having eaten 1 piece of fruit) VS 1st Form Frieza (no transformations)
Edited by The-Marksman, Aug 18 2009, 12:37 PM.
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| Super Goku | Aug 18 2009, 05:06 PM Post #8 |
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in response to turles(+fruit) vs. freeza (form 1) I havent seen the Tree of Might movie in a while, but from what i understand, after eating the fruit, turles beats kaioken goku x 10 with ease, so i would put him at 400,000...530,000 would be the absolute highest IMO. and since freeza's max is 530,000, i think freeza wins. How could turles win against a death ball like freeza used to destroy planets, too? In a last ditch effort freeza could whip that one out, and turles would somehow have to block it, deflect it with a stronger attack, or let it blow up the planet, and i think the only saiyan who can survive a planet explosion is Broly. IS Turles a saiyan???????? well if he's not, he must be some humanoid species thats probably weaker than a saiyan, so he probably has an even smaller chance of surviving the explosion of a planet, which freeza CAN survive. |
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| The-Marksman | Aug 18 2009, 05:50 PM Post #9 |
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Good point Super Goku, I dont think Turles is quite 530k, and yes Turles IS a Sayian, he was made to look exactly like Goku, I think the idea for that character and that movie, is what would have become of Goku, had he stayed on Planet Vegeta and not be shuttled off. But agreed, I cant imagine anything Turles could do that would block a planet buster attack, and I also agree that Broly is the only Sayian (fusions excluded) capable of surviving a planet buster attack. |
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| BUU | Aug 18 2009, 06:20 PM Post #10 |
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I guess it really depends on how powerful you think Turles is. As I posted earlier, Turles after eating one piece of fruit has a power level of 400,000-530,000. If you belive that he has a power level of 450,000 or lower, because of the large power difference, it would be over quick. If you believe that he is somewhat higher than this, he would actually survive for awhle, but eventually, he would lose. If you believe that he has 530,000 (equal to 1st form Frieza) or close to that, he would put up a good fight. However, Frieza has more experience, while Turles is a low class warrior, so I think that will give Frieza a slight upperhand. And for the idea of Frieza destroying the planet, do you think he will be that desperate? Sure, it would destroy Turles, but there is the possibilty that he could be destroyed as well. Frieza barely survived on Namek (perhaps this is because he was already severely battle damaged). Although, he didn't seem to worry in the beginning when he first launched it. This means that he could have survived without being injured as much if he wasn't battled damged from Goku and his attacks. And there is the possibiblity that Turles can transform into a great ape. His power level would be incresed 10 fold! That would make his power level 4,000,000, which is equal to final form Frieza (surpressed power). Now, that would make a huge difference. However, since Turles is a low class, he wouldn't be able to control himself when he's a great ape. He would be too clumsy and reckless. I can imagine that Frieza would be smart enough to cut off Turles' tail. And without a tail, Turles would have trouble balancing on two feet (because he is a low class warrior) and since the tail is the key to a saiyan's power, there is a POSSIBILITY that he will lose some power. In the end, I'd say it would be a tough fight, but Frieza would emerge as the victor. |
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| Super Goku | Aug 19 2009, 06:42 PM Post #11 |
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I just said the planet explosion would be a last-ditch-effort that would probably help freeza win. This is only first form freeza though, so at like 530k, against 4 million he doesnt stand much of a chance. However, i'll bet freeza has had enough experience with that kind of stuff that he knows he should get to the tail first, and then turles IS at a bigger disadvantage... |
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