Hirudegarn Vs. Super Buu /w Gotenks

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Hirudegarn Vs. Super Buu /w Gotenks
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* Psyam	Aug 5 2009, 08:48 PM Post #1
Posts: 1,788 Group: Retired Staff Member #3,439 Joined: May 18, 2008 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime HxH What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga One Piece	Hirdudegarn starts off in his final form. Both of these fighters were able to beat Mystic Gohan quite easily. Hirudegarn was beat by SSJ3 Goku, but Goku at that point may have been stronger then Gohan after training, or at least would have got somewhat stronger, and he only won by getting Hirudegarn mad (and thus making him drop his guard), and then hitting him with the Dragon Fist. It was Hirudegarns ability to turn into mist that made him almost unbeatable while he had his defence up. Buu has regeneration and techniques on his side. Ok, let's hear your opinion!



ryanson209	Aug 6 2009, 01:00 AM Post #2
MAGICAL GIRLS REPRESENT Posts: 2,336 Group: Member Member #4,331 Joined: July 21, 2009 Favourite Anime Puella Magi Madoka Magica	Tough one. But I think, if all else fails, Buu could use his goo to attempt to absorb Hirudegarn.
	*Life is a performance, and the world is full of critics. Give it your all like it's your last show.*


hidan fan	Aug 6 2009, 01:55 AM Post #3
Posts: 146 Group: Member Member #3,866 Joined: December 21, 2008 Favourite Anime dbz,naruto,yuyuhakusho,inuyasha,rurouni kenshin,bleach	the buutenks.because he would be twice as powerful seeing now that super buu would have not only gotenks's power but also piccolo's as well.and super buu would have infinite energy.and also as it was already said he can regenerate.and if buutenks finds a way to chop of hirudegarn's tail he would easily win.



BUU	Aug 6 2009, 06:53 PM Post #4
Posts: 148 Group: Member Member #4,313 Joined: July 15, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? internet explorer Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	Buu before absorbing anyone was far more powerful than Goku. This was stated by Goku while he was in Buu's body. When Buu absorbed Gotenks and Piccolo, he became much more powerful and smarter. Due to Gotenks' raw power, he was even more powerful than Mystic Gohan. Hirudegarn was also shown to be far more powerful than Gohan.Infact, he seemed nearly invincible until Goku revealed his weakness. So, obviously, they are both leagues above SS3 Goku and Mystic Gohan. However. Buu has a higher chance of winning. Why? This is because of Hirudegarn's weakness. When Hirudegarn got angry, his guard went down. If Goku could get Hirudegarn's guard down and defeat him with a dragon fist, why can't buu do the same thing with a planet burst? Besides, Buu would be smart enough to realize Hirudegarn's weakeness because of Piccolo's brain. Also, since Buu is far more powerful than SS3, he will be able to defeat Hirudegarn with much more ease than Goku. Also, Buu will regenerate from all of Hirudegarn's attacks. And as a last resort, Buu could turn Hirudegarn to candy.



Super Goku	Aug 10 2009, 01:02 AM Post #5
Vizard Jinchurikii Posts: 966 Group: Member Member #4,266 Joined: June 26, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Naruto	BUU is right. buutenks would win for sure. he was pwning mystic gohan pretty well. He has piccolo's brains which helped him outsmart gohan. I think he could outsmart a giant beast thats quick to anger with his numerous cheap techniques. like, he can turn into a cloud (seen when he was first released) and go inside someone and burst..or he could turn him into candy, or maybe absorb him... buu is just smarter.
	BURNING HELL FTW


Nothing	Aug 10 2009, 06:26 PM Post #6
Posts: 153 Group: Member Member #4,026 Joined: March 13, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox	Well this would be a pretty interesting fight. Butenks has a good chance of wining this fight just because he is smarter, but if he doesn't figure out Hirudegarn's weakness, then he is done for....this is why: Hirudegarn owned all of the Z Fighters, and in Movie 13, and it is obvious that SSJ3 Goku is the strongest one seeing how he could actually keep up with Hirudegarn for very short amount of time(If u can call that keeping up). All of the others where knocked out in one punch or 2 at the most...even both Mystic Gohan and Gotenks ssj3 where disposed of easily, hell...Gotenks' fusion broke apart after taking only one punch from Hirudegarn. So in terms of power Hirudegarn outranks Butenks by a huge margin. I know that Butenks is fused power of Super Buu and Gotenks ssj3(Gotenks ssj3 makes 1/3 of Butenks' total power), but seeing how Gotenks ssj3 got literally broken apart by only one punch, it is highly unlikely that Butenks would overpower Hirudegarn. Butenks has regeneration and cookie beam, but even with that i doubt that he would be able to beat Hirudegarn, the only good thing for Butenks is that he has mind of Piccolo and that Hirudegarn is stupid beast. As i said earlier Butenks can only win this one if he figures out Hirudegarn's weakness. Edited by Nothing, Aug 10 2009, 06:45 PM.



BUU	Aug 10 2009, 09:47 PM Post #7
Posts: 148 Group: Member Member #4,313 Joined: July 15, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? internet explorer Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	Nothing Aug 10 2009, 06:26 PM Well this would be a pretty interesting fight. Butenks has a good chance of wining this fight just because he is smarter, but if he doesn't figure out Hirudegarn's weakness, then he is done for....this is why: Hirudegarn owned all of the Z Fighters, and in Movie 13, and it is obvious that SSJ3 Goku is the strongest one seeing how he could actually keep up with Hirudegarn for very short amount of time(If u can call that keeping up). All of the others where knocked out in one punch or 2 at the most...even both Mystic Gohan and Gotenks ssj3 where disposed of easily, hell...Gotenks' fusion broke apart after taking only one punch from Hirudegarn. So in terms of power Hirudegarn outranks Butenks by a huge margin. I know that Butenks is fused power of Super Buu and Gotenks ssj3(Gotenks ssj3 makes 1/3 of Butenks' total power), but seeing how Gotenks ssj3 got literally broken apart by only one punch, it is highly unlikely that Butenks would overpower Hirudegarn. Butenks has regeneration and cookie beam, but even with that i doubt that he would be able to beat Hirudegarn, the only good thing for Butenks is that he has mind of Piccolo and that Hirudegarn is stupid beast. As i said earlier Butenks can only win this one if he figures out Hirudegarn's weakness. Hirudegarn managed to easily outmatch Gohan and Gotenks as you said, but so did Buu. Before absorbing anyone, Buu faced Gotenks and Gohan. He was around even with Gotenks (but he managed to outsmart him), but he was dominated by Gohan. Already, Buu was on par with Gotenks. But after absorbing Gotenks, he added Gotenks' and Piccolo's power to his. Considering Gotenks' power, this is a huge boost. Also, people tend to forget that Piccolo is also powerful in his own sense; he has power greater than that of a Super Saiyan. This is why Buu dominated Gohan. In his new form, Buu is clearly leagues above Gohan and SS3 Goku. And I don't think that Hirudegarn is "more powerful than Buu by a huge margin." As stated above, Buu in his new form can easily handle Goku, Gotenks, and Gohan. However, Hirudegarn's display of power was so impressive that he has a power advantage (although I wouldn't say by a very huge margin). Also, as stated by you, Nothing, if Buu never found Hirudegarn's weakness, he would be at a huge disadvantage. Well, it seems to be very unlikely that Buu would not realize Hirudegarn's weakness because of Piccolo's brain. If Goku was able to realize this, i'm sure that Piccolo (who is much more intelligent) would. Also, what would Hirudegarn do to possibly destroy Buu? Buu's regeneration factor will save him from nearly anything. He can survive the explosion of planets with little to no difficulty. That reminds me, what if Buu destroyed the planet with Planet Burst? Buu would survive, but what about Hirudegarn? And let us not forget the fact that Buu can turn Hirudegarn to chocolate or absorb him. I think that even if Buu is slightly weaker, this fight will be decided by brains and techniques.



Nothing	Aug 12 2009, 12:06 AM Post #8
Posts: 153 Group: Member Member #4,026 Joined: March 13, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox	BUU Aug 10 2009, 09:47 PM Nothing Aug 10 2009, 06:26 PM Well this would be a pretty interesting fight. Butenks has a good chance of wining this fight just because he is smarter, but if he doesn't figure out Hirudegarn's weakness, then he is done for....this is why: Hirudegarn owned all of the Z Fighters, and in Movie 13, and it is obvious that SSJ3 Goku is the strongest one seeing how he could actually keep up with Hirudegarn for very short amount of time(If u can call that keeping up). All of the others where knocked out in one punch or 2 at the most...even both Mystic Gohan and Gotenks ssj3 where disposed of easily, hell...Gotenks' fusion broke apart after taking only one punch from Hirudegarn. So in terms of power Hirudegarn outranks Butenks by a huge margin. I know that Butenks is fused power of Super Buu and Gotenks ssj3(Gotenks ssj3 makes 1/3 of Butenks' total power), but seeing how Gotenks ssj3 got literally broken apart by only one punch, it is highly unlikely that Butenks would overpower Hirudegarn. Butenks has regeneration and cookie beam, but even with that i doubt that he would be able to beat Hirudegarn, the only good thing for Butenks is that he has mind of Piccolo and that Hirudegarn is stupid beast. As i said earlier Butenks can only win this one if he figures out Hirudegarn's weakness. Hirudegarn managed to easily outmatch Gohan and Gotenks as you said, but so did Buu. Before absorbing anyone, Buu faced Gotenks and Gohan. He was around even with Gotenks (but he managed to outsmart him), but he was dominated by Gohan. Already, Buu was on par with Gotenks. But after absorbing Gotenks, he added Gotenks' and Piccolo's power to his. Considering Gotenks' power, this is a huge boost. Also, people tend to forget that Piccolo is also powerful in his own sense; he has power greater than that of a Super Saiyan. This is why Buu dominated Gohan. In his new form, Buu is clearly leagues above Gohan and SS3 Goku. And I don't think that Hirudegarn is "more powerful than Buu by a huge margin." As stated above, Buu in his new form can easily handle Goku, Gotenks, and Gohan. However, Hirudegarn's display of power was so impressive that he has a power advantage (although I wouldn't say by a very huge margin). Also, as stated by you, Nothing, if Buu never found Hirudegarn's weakness, he would be at a huge disadvantage. Well, it seems to be very unlikely that Buu would not realize Hirudegarn's weakness because of Piccolo's brain. If Goku was able to realize this, i'm sure that Piccolo (who is much more intelligent) would. Also, what would Hirudegarn do to possibly destroy Buu? Buu's regeneration factor will save him from nearly anything. He can survive the explosion of planets with little to no difficulty. That reminds me, what if Buu destroyed the planet with Planet Burst? Buu would survive, but what about Hirudegarn? And let us not forget the fact that Buu can turn Hirudegarn to chocolate or absorb him. I think that even if Buu is slightly weaker, this fight will be decided by brains and techniques. -And what makes u think that Hirudegarn would be destroyed by the destruction of the planet ??? LOL...even Fireza can survive planet's destruction, and he is million times weaker than Hirudegarn. -As for Buu's cookie beam, i doubt it would actually be of any great use because Hirudegarn can always turn into mist and "dodge" Buu's cookie attack. -As for Piccolo, I agree that he is far more powerful than regular super saiyan, but compared to Gotenks ssj3 and Super Buu's natural power Piccolo is so weak, that the amount of power Piccolo gives to Butenks' total power supply is probably under 1%. The only really good thing that Piccolo gives to Butenks is smart mind.



BUU	Aug 12 2009, 11:59 PM Post #9
Posts: 148 Group: Member Member #4,313 Joined: July 15, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? internet explorer Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	Nothing Aug 12 2009, 12:06 AM BUU Aug 10 2009, 09:47 PM Nothing Aug 10 2009, 06:26 PM Well this would be a pretty interesting fight. Butenks has a good chance of wining this fight just because he is smarter, but if he doesn't figure out Hirudegarn's weakness, then he is done for....this is why: Hirudegarn owned all of the Z Fighters, and in Movie 13, and it is obvious that SSJ3 Goku is the strongest one seeing how he could actually keep up with Hirudegarn for very short amount of time(If u can call that keeping up). All of the others where knocked out in one punch or 2 at the most...even both Mystic Gohan and Gotenks ssj3 where disposed of easily, hell...Gotenks' fusion broke apart after taking only one punch from Hirudegarn. So in terms of power Hirudegarn outranks Butenks by a huge margin. I know that Butenks is fused power of Super Buu and Gotenks ssj3(Gotenks ssj3 makes 1/3 of Butenks' total power), but seeing how Gotenks ssj3 got literally broken apart by only one punch, it is highly unlikely that Butenks would overpower Hirudegarn. Butenks has regeneration and cookie beam, but even with that i doubt that he would be able to beat Hirudegarn, the only good thing for Butenks is that he has mind of Piccolo and that Hirudegarn is stupid beast. As i said earlier Butenks can only win this one if he figures out Hirudegarn's weakness. Hirudegarn managed to easily outmatch Gohan and Gotenks as you said, but so did Buu. Before absorbing anyone, Buu faced Gotenks and Gohan. He was around even with Gotenks (but he managed to outsmart him), but he was dominated by Gohan. Already, Buu was on par with Gotenks. But after absorbing Gotenks, he added Gotenks' and Piccolo's power to his. Considering Gotenks' power, this is a huge boost. Also, people tend to forget that Piccolo is also powerful in his own sense; he has power greater than that of a Super Saiyan. This is why Buu dominated Gohan. In his new form, Buu is clearly leagues above Gohan and SS3 Goku. And I don't think that Hirudegarn is "more powerful than Buu by a huge margin." As stated above, Buu in his new form can easily handle Goku, Gotenks, and Gohan. However, Hirudegarn's display of power was so impressive that he has a power advantage (although I wouldn't say by a very huge margin). Also, as stated by you, Nothing, if Buu never found Hirudegarn's weakness, he would be at a huge disadvantage. Well, it seems to be very unlikely that Buu would not realize Hirudegarn's weakness because of Piccolo's brain. If Goku was able to realize this, i'm sure that Piccolo (who is much more intelligent) would. Also, what would Hirudegarn do to possibly destroy Buu? Buu's regeneration factor will save him from nearly anything. He can survive the explosion of planets with little to no difficulty. That reminds me, what if Buu destroyed the planet with Planet Burst? Buu would survive, but what about Hirudegarn? And let us not forget the fact that Buu can turn Hirudegarn to chocolate or absorb him. I think that even if Buu is slightly weaker, this fight will be decided by brains and techniques. -And what makes u think that Hirudegarn would be destroyed by the destruction of the planet ??? LOL...even Fireza can survive planet's destruction, and he is million times weaker than Hirudegarn. -As for Buu's cookie beam, i doubt it would actually be of any great use because Hirudegarn can always turn into mist and "dodge" Buu's cookie attack. -As for Piccolo, I agree that he is far more powerful than regular super saiyan, but compared to Gotenks ssj3 and Super Buu's natural power Piccolo is so weak, that the amount of power Piccolo gives to Butenks' total power supply is probably under 1%. The only really good thing that Piccolo gives to Butenks is smart mind. Frieza can BARELY survive the explosion of a planet. And this has nothing to do with power. Frieza and Cooler (and possibly all changelings) can survive the most toughest, most dangerous, near death injuries. Even Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, gohan,etc. wouldn't survive a planet exploding. Even Cell (who has regeneration) was afraid when Goku threatened to destroy the planet with a kamehameha. Buu would survive, regenerate, and he'd be good as new. What about Hirudegarn who has no regeneration? Without regeneration, Hirudegarn will lose a limb or two, he might die for all we know.What makes you think that surviving the explosion of a planet is easy? And as for the chocolate beam, Buu can always just sneak behind Hirudegarn or catch him off guard. Buu would realize that hirudegarn can turn himself into mist and find a way to counter his ability (he has Piccolo's brain). As for Piccolo, even 1% of power can make a HUGE difference in DBZ as shown in many fights. You can be 5% stronger than someone to dominate them in every way. And Gotenks power will definately add A LOT of power to super Buu. And what makes you think that Hirudegarn can destroy Buu? He's too big and clumsy. And he barely has any techniques. Here are his techniques: 1. Ki blasts- Useless. These are the most basic form of energy wave, buu can dodge them, deflect them, etc. 2. Mist- This will save Hirudegarna couple of times, but Buu will realize his weakness and use it against him to end the fight. And buu can also just destroy the planet. 3. Drain life- How is he going to take the life out of Buu? Buu is much to quick to be caught off guard by a clumsy beast like Hirudegarn. 4. Chou Makousen- Buu will just regenerate from it or dodge it. 5. Super Exolosive Wave- Buu can either keep his distance or regenerate. 6. Flame breath- The blast radius is too short, unless Buu is right in front of his face, it's useless. Plus, Buu can regenerate. All of these techniques are powerful, but they won't be able to completely destroy Buu. And the chances of Buu not realizing Hirudegarn's weakness is very slim. In the end, Buu wins hands down. Edited by BUU, Aug 12 2009, 11:59 PM.



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