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| Super Buu w/ Gotenks and Piccolo vs Gogeta (DBZ) | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 2 2009, 12:26 AM (1,662 Views) | |
| BUU | Aug 2 2009, 12:26 AM Post #1 |
 
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Okay, I was looking through the versus forum and under the pinned section, there was a topic called Gogeta vs Vegito. There, I read an extremely long post that explained how powerful each was. Anyway, the point is that they compared Gogeta and Super Buu w/ Gotenks and Piccolo. Anyway, it was stated that they have around the same power level. So I thought, this could be a good fight. |
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| Meta Cooler | Aug 2 2009, 02:54 AM Post #2 |
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Super Buu with Gotenks and Piccolo would get thrashed by Gogeta. Super Buu with Gotenks, Piccolo, and Gohan would not not get thrashed. |
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| * Psyam | Aug 2 2009, 03:35 AM Post #3 |
 
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Any evidence to back up that claim? Going by NeciFiX's post that they're about equal power, I say Buu would win. He'd just regenerate over and over. He has all of Gotenks moves (Super Ghost Kamakazi Attack hurts) and Piccolo's mind. He may also hit Gogeta with his Candy ray. It'd be a good fight, but Buu would be the most likely winner in my opinion. If 30 mins went by, and both their fusions ran out, Super Buu could then kill Goku and Vegeta anyway. |
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| BUU | Aug 2 2009, 04:01 AM Post #4 |
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I agree. But what if Gogeta did starbust breaker? Wouldn't that use Buu's own negative energy to destroy him? Anyway, Buu does have the regeneration and candy beam advantage. So that gives him a slight advantage. But I wouldn't say a big one. |
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| * Psyam | Aug 2 2009, 04:04 AM Post #5 |
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I'm not sure Stardust Breaker is really all that, to be honest. We only saw it used on Janemba, who Gogeta crazily outclassed. I think at that point he could of just Kamehameha'd Janemba and have been done with it. Anyway, I'm going to bed now, so I'll catch up with this tommorow 
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| Meta Cooler | Aug 2 2009, 07:15 PM Post #6 |
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Super Buu with Gotenks, Piccolo, and Gohan, got his ***** handed to him by super Vegito. If Super Gogeta is just a little bit weaker than Super Vegito, and Super Buu with Gotenks and Piccolo is a considersable amount weaker without Gohan absorbed. Gogeta wins. Gogeta's Stardust Breaker could take Super Buu out petty easily I think. |
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| * Psyam | Aug 2 2009, 07:29 PM Post #7 |
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Gogeta is a lot weaker then Vegito. Unless you can prove NeciFiX's post on the first page of the Gogeta Vs. Vegito thread wrong. Gogeta is around Gotenks Buu's level according to that post, and it was the best I've ever seen in the VS. section. So without a huge power advantage like against Janemba, I think Buu would still win. If Stardust Breaker was all that, everyone would be using a technique like it. It's just a energy blast. It looked so effective on Janemba because Gogeta was leagues stronger then him. |
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| Sam | Aug 2 2009, 07:41 PM Post #8 |
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Did you not read my post? I'm an expert at this battle. Gogeta is far weaker than Vegito. If he's equal to Semi-Ultimate Boo, then, he'll lose. Boo can regenerate and has many factors in his favor. That stardust breaker is just a DBZ Budokai move. |
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| Nothing | Aug 2 2009, 08:35 PM Post #9 |
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I read your post NeciFiX in the SSJ Gogeta vs Vegeto ssj topic. It really explains a lot, Vegeto ssj would destroy Gogeta ssj for sure, but over there u mentioned that Goku ssj3 is only a bit weaker than Janemba final form. "a bit"...how come? I mean Janemba TRASHED Goku ssj3 completely and he didn't even look serious about it.Goku ssj3 got hit by one Janemba's mouth blast and was barely standing. I think that Janemba final form is much stronger than Goku ssj3. My opinion: Janemba final form >>> Goku ssj3 One more question(better to say a dozen of them): Wouldn't fusion dance type of fusion be able to draw out more power than Kai earring fusion? I mean if you are using the fusion dance couldn't u achieve more power by fusing in powered up states. For example what if both Goku and Vegeta fuse at ssj or ssj2? Wouldn't that make a stronger fusion than the Kai earrings make? (since with Kai earrings u can't or u aren't supposed not to fuse in powered up states) Goku and Piccolo both said that if Goten and Trunks fuse at ssj that they would make a stronger version of Gotenks that if they fuse in their normal forms and after fusing go ssj. And Goku said at one point that the fusion is at it's maximum if fighters first power up( go ssj or ssj2) and then fuse,than if they fuse and after that power up. I know that Old Kai stated that earring fusion is superior, but i don't remember him exactly say that they can achieve higher PL by fusing with the earrings, than if they fuse with the fusion dance. He only said something that it is much more easier, you can't make a failed fusion, and it is permanent. Sorry for the of topic post, i really need to know the answer to my question, so either Psyam or NeciFiX, are u up for it since u 2 are the best ones here As for the topic i am not sure, but i will still vote for Gogeta, he is after all Goku and Vegeta fused, not some pink monster with saiyans and namek inside
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| BUU | Aug 3 2009, 12:14 AM Post #10 |
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Actually, it was used in the movie to kill Janemba. It only got it's name form the video-games. But it's supposed to use your oponent's negative(or possitive) energy against them and destroy them. So, since Janemba was very evil, his own negative energy was used against him. As far as I know, this move does not concern power, all it does is use the oponent's own energy against them. I don't think that Super Buu (or anyone else) could regenerate from this. So, if this hit, would it use Super Buu's own negative energy to destroy him? |
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| Sam | Aug 3 2009, 12:53 AM Post #11 |
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No. The potara are better because with the fusion dance, you need equal power. With the potara, you can have insanely different power levels and still merge. For instance, Goku was about to merge with Mr. Satan because Boo had absorbed Gohan. Also, Goku got in many good hits on Janemba, and in the beginning it was almost dead even. Not until Janemba pulled out his sword did Goku start definitively losing. True, but, Boo can regenerate. I do not know if this "Stardust breaker" disintegrates the enemy or not. But, it doesn't seem like it's an incredibly fast move. Janemba RAN AT IT and it still took a few seconds to hit him. I doubt Semi-Ultimate Boo would stand still long enough to get hit by something that disintegrates him. |
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| BUU | Aug 3 2009, 01:25 AM Post #12 |
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I personally want buu to win, but I don't want this to be a one sided fight where everybody just goes with buu. Buu's main advantage is that he can regenerate. Also, he has the candy beam. This would give him a decent advantage. Or will it? Gogeta is shown to be very fast. At times, he moves so fast that there is only a blur of light. Also, Gogeta appears to be quite durable, being able to take a hard punch in the face. However, this could just be because he is vastly more powerful than Janemba. And for the stardust breaker, I wouldn't say that it is a slow move. It manages to hit Janemba in a second, but when first seen, it seems slow, but it is not. I watched the scene and realized that it hit Janemba fairly quickly, but it took some time to take effect (maybe 3-5 seconds). But I noticed that Super Buu and Janemba share a personality trait. They both get angry very easily, which is a key factor for Gogeta. If Gogeta manages to get a FEW hits on Buu like he did on Janemba, Super Buu would have the same reaction and angrily charge at Gogeta. Then, Gogeta makes the Stardust Breaker and you know the rest. I am not exactly sure if the Stardust Breaker disintegrates the target, but I do know that it uses the oponents' own evil or good against them. So basically, it means that every force has an echo. So, it would use Super Buu's own negative energy to destroy him. Will Buu's regeneration help him? Maybe, but not very likely. AS shown in the scene, it first pieces through the flesh and takes effect form the inside. Unless Buu can regenerate from the inside as well, he would be helpless. Edited by BUU, Aug 3 2009, 01:28 AM.
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| Sam | Aug 3 2009, 10:14 AM Post #13 |
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Ah, but, you forget. Semi-Ultimate Boo had Piccolo in him. He might not get angry so quickly. But, perhaps your right. But, judging the entire battle on just one move is controversial. |
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| Nothing | Aug 3 2009, 01:01 PM Post #14 |
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Yes you are right, with the earrings 2 people can fuse that have way different power levels. For fusion dance fusion to work they have to have equal. But the gap betwen Goku in his base form and Vegeta in his base form isn't that big as u make it look. You make it look like Goku's PL is 2 or 3 times greater than Vegeta's in their base forms. I know that Gogeta ssj is weaker than Vegeto ssj due to the equal power level thing in fusion dance fusion, but still i don't think he is THAT much weaker to lose even to Gohan Super Buu(Buhan), or Gotenks-Super Buu. As for the "Stardust breaker" move someone here said that it is DBZ Budokai move, I tooth that this is only for DBZ Anime and manga, not for games. |
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Aug 3 2009, 01:46 PM Post #15 |
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this would be such a fight that buu wouldhave blood coming out of his wang |
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