Piccolo(early android arc) vs Super Saiyan Trunks(Trunks arc)

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Piccolo(early android arc) vs Super Saiyan Trunks(Trunks arc)
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rmmaniac09	Jul 30 2009, 02:45 PM Post #1
Posts: 148 Group: Member Member #3,896 Joined: January 5, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball/ Z/GT, Gundam 00 What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga DB/Z manga	Remember how Piccolo easily beaten android 20? Well, I'm under a theory that Piccolo at the beginning of the android arc is at least equal to or just a bit higher than Super Saiyan Future Trunks. Reason: Piccolo overhears that the androids in in Trunk's timeline are stronger than Trunks himself. During the 3 year preparation for the androids, I see no reason why Piccolo wouldn't train to surpass Super Saiyan Trunks. Piccolo then defeats #20 with ease, thinking that he's one of the androids from Trunk's timeline. There you have it. Piccolo at this point has to be stronger than Super Saiyan Trunks, unless does anyone else think otherwise? Edited by rmmaniac09, Jul 30 2009, 02:46 PM.



Meta Cooler	Jul 30 2009, 05:57 PM Post #2
Posts: 299 Group: Member Member #4,304 Joined: July 12, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z/GT What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer	rmmaniac09 Jul 30 2009, 02:45 PM Remember how Piccolo easily beaten android 20? Well, I'm under a theory that Piccolo at the beginning of the android arc is at least equal to or just a bit higher than Super Saiyan Future Trunks. Reason: Piccolo overhears that the androids in in Trunk's timeline are stronger than Trunks himself. During the 3 year preparation for the androids, I see no reason why Piccolo wouldn't train to surpass Super Saiyan Trunks. Piccolo then defeats #20 with ease, thinking that he's one of the androids from Trunk's timeline. There you have it. Piccolo at this point has to be stronger than Super Saiyan Trunks, unless does anyone else think otherwise? I agree. Piccolo fused witkh Kami is stronger than a super saiyan, but not stronger than an ultra super saiyan - Trunks when he has the crazy spikey hair.
	An optimist is someone who falls off the Empire State Building, and after 50 floors says, 'So far so good!' If you can't see the bright side of life, polish the dull side. If you lend someone $20 and never see that person again, it was probably worth it.


rmmaniac09	Jul 30 2009, 08:49 PM Post #3
Posts: 148 Group: Member Member #3,896 Joined: January 5, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball/ Z/GT, Gundam 00 What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga DB/Z manga	Yup, true, but I'm talking about before he fused with Kami. Piccolo has possibly already surpassed Super Saiyan Trunks(initial appearance).



Super Goku	Jul 31 2009, 01:37 AM Post #4
Vizard Jinchurikii Posts: 966 Group: Member Member #4,266 Joined: June 26, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Naruto	this is tricky.. SSJ trunks killed Mecha Freeza easily. ... I think SSJ trunks is better. I dont think Piccolo could beat a SSJ at that point in the game. definitely after the kami fusion, but i dont think now. I think i should wait to make a more educated decision after i re-read that part of the series and/or another user posts a very good reason on why they think someone would win.
	BURNING HELL FTW


Graffiti	Jul 31 2009, 02:46 AM Post #5
MGD. Posts: 3,298 Group: GFX Team Member #204 Joined: February 21, 2005 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Black Lagoon, One Piece, DBZ What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Bleach	My vote would go to Trunks, as during the android arc, Piccolo didn't fuse with Kami (if he did during the android arc then he would be much more stronger than Trunks) making weaker than Trunks.
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+ Rebel X	Jul 31 2009, 03:48 AM Post #6
Posts: 11,612 Group: Legend Member #88 Joined: January 16, 2005	I think Piccolo would win because at the time he seemed to be at the same level if not a bit greater than SSJ1 Vegeta. We saw how easily Piccolo beat Android 20 even after he sucked much of his energy out. Piccolo threw Dr.Gero around so much he could'nt even touch him. SSJ1 vegeta managed to beat Android 19 but in the end he bluffed his way out of beating Android 20 because he was drained of almost all his energy. I think it's hard to compare Trunks to either because he only faced Frieza, who by that time, the warriors could've beaten. Trunks also had this tremendous fear embedded in him about androids. We don't really see him fight between Mecha Frieza and Cell. Another point is if he actually changed during the 3 years time. I don't think he improved that much. I think at the time noone, not even Goku, had put himself through so much like Vegeta did. Goku trained hard but in the end Goku suffered from the disease. I think the most powerful saiyan at the time was SSJ1 Vegeta. Piccolo=SSJ1Vegeta>SSJ1Trunks



Nothing	Jul 31 2009, 04:23 AM Post #7
Posts: 153 Group: Member Member #4,026 Joined: March 13, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox	Piccolo before he fused with Kami was a little weaker than Vegeta ssj. But don't forget that Vegeta ssj is stronger than Goku ssj and he is about the same or maybe a bit stronger than Future Trunks ssj. This is my opinion: Vegeta ssj > Piccolo (before fused with kami) = Goku ssj(android saga) > Future Trunks ssj So Piccolo wins this one, but it would be an interesting fight.



* Psyam	Jul 31 2009, 08:24 AM Post #8
Posts: 1,788 Group: Retired Staff Member #3,439 Joined: May 18, 2008 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime HxH What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga One Piece	It depends how strong Trunks is. If he was weaker then SSJ Vegeta, Piccolo should be able to pull it off by superior tactics and skill. It's true that Piccolo beat #20 easily, but he did have a Senzu bean after Gero drained some of his energy, if I remember right. So, he wasn't low on power or anything. #19 took a lot of Vegeta's to beat because he absorbed a LOT of Goku's energy, remember. First the Kamehameha, then he drained Goku's power from him when he had him pinned to the ground. He also had Vegeta in his grasp and, while Vegeta was calm and went about breaking his arms off, he was still draining Vegeta's energy in that time. Plus Vegeta probably used a lot of power on his overkill Big Bang attack, when he should of just kicked off #19's head. Vegeta could have defeated Gero just as easily as Piccolo, if not more so. There was a reason Gero was running from him. Trunks, however, was weaker then Vegeta, but by how much is unknown. Still, unless he was near Vegeta's power level, Piccolo should win. One thing to keep in mind is that both Piccolo and SSJ Trunks got THRASHED by the Androids (when they all attacked together after Vegeta lost against #18), while Vegeta was able to put up a good fight. Piccolo is, therefore, not on Vegeta's level, but neither is Trunks. For that reason, if they are near each other in power, Piccolo would win as he's shown to be one of the most intelligent and tactical fighters in the series, while Trunks is rash and makes foolish mistakes (like when he powered up against Cell, for instance). Trunks was still just a kid in fighting experience, compared to Goku, Vegeta and Piccolo, however strong he was.



+ Rebel X	Jul 31 2009, 08:48 AM Post #9
Posts: 11,612 Group: Legend Member #88 Joined: January 16, 2005	Psyam Jul 31 2009, 08:24 AM It's true that Piccolo beat #20 easily, but he did have a Senzu bean after Gero drained some of his energy, if I remember right. So, he wasn't low on power or anything. Yes, he does get one from Krillin. The point rather was the he could take him on so easily so quickly. It took him less than a minute to recover all his energy and face Android 20. I know Piccolo would win. I'm curious about by how much. It would've been nice to see Trunks in a battle with these android so we could properly compare the 2. I think a good match AROUND THIS TIME would be SSJ1 Vegeta VS Piccolo.



rob	Jul 31 2009, 03:04 PM Post #10
Posts: 203 Group: Member Member #4,195 Joined: May 15, 2009 Favourite Anime dragonball, dragonball z	Rebel X Jul 31 2009, 03:48 AM I think it's hard to compare Trunks to either because he only faced Frieza, who by that time, the warriors could've beaten. which warriors are you talking about because it was only just after they left namek, they didnt have much time to train to re-face frieza. i thought when the scientists brought back frieza they said he would be even more powerful than before, so who could've beaten frieza, i dont think all the z fighters could've put up much of a fight against the newly powered up frieza and king cold, also with frieza's father there that would've put even more doubt in thier minds, because not only is it frieza who the one and only goku could not completly defeat, it is his dad, they must have known they had no chance of winning. anyway i think piccollo would beat future trunks, the first reason being he was still a young boy learning from gohan who had not really had enough experience fighting or training since frieza, and piccollo was fresh from namek with the fusion of nail he would've destroyed trunks.



rmmaniac09	Jul 31 2009, 06:57 PM Post #11
Posts: 148 Group: Member Member #3,896 Joined: January 5, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball/ Z/GT, Gundam 00 What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga DB/Z manga	LOL, everyone here is missing my point. I guess I should have posted this topic in the debate section.



+ Rebel X	Jul 31 2009, 09:38 PM Post #12
Posts: 11,612 Group: Legend Member #88 Joined: January 16, 2005	rob Jul 31 2009, 03:04 PM Rebel X Jul 31 2009, 03:48 AM I think it's hard to compare Trunks to either because he only faced Frieza, who by that time, the warriors could've beaten. which warriors are you talking about because it was only just after they left namek, they didnt have much time to train to re-face frieza. i thought when the scientists brought back frieza they said he would be even more powerful than before, so who could've beaten frieza, i dont think all the z fighters could've put up much of a fight against the newly powered up frieza and king cold, also with frieza's father there that would've put even more doubt in thier minds, because not only is it frieza who the one and only goku could not completly defeat, it is his dad, they must have known they had no chance of winning. anyway i think piccollo would beat future trunks, the first reason being he was still a young boy learning from gohan who had not really had enough experience fighting or training since frieza, and piccollo was fresh from namek with the fusion of nail he would've destroyed trunks. I was referring to Piccolo, Trunks, Vegeta, and Goku at the android saga could've taken on Mecha Frieza. I just said warriors b/c it was shorter than listing those 4 but looks like I had to do it anyhow lol. ah how fate works



Meta Cooler	Jul 31 2009, 10:41 PM Post #13
Posts: 299 Group: Member Member #4,304 Joined: July 12, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z/GT What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer	If it was before Piccolo fused with Kami, then Trunks SSJ wins this.
	An optimist is someone who falls off the Empire State Building, and after 50 floors says, 'So far so good!' If you can't see the bright side of life, polish the dull side. If you lend someone $20 and never see that person again, it was probably worth it.


Super Goku	Aug 1 2009, 03:01 PM Post #14
Vizard Jinchurikii Posts: 966 Group: Member Member #4,266 Joined: June 26, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Naruto	If its piccolo in the trunks arc, then trunks wins. After the trunks arc, when theyre fighting Android 19 and 20, then I think Piccolo wins because he had trained for 3 years straight trying to surpass the androids (which he did a damn good job of doing). Piccolo was fighting in bursts against Gero, which was a smart thing to do, it made him seemingly stronger. I dont think Trunks has the smarts to fight against a true warrior like Piccolo.
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