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| Pookie | Jul 27 2009, 12:51 AM Post #1 |
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Should School uniforms be a must or should kids be able to dress the way they wish to express themselves? Discuss here.
Edited by Pookie, Jul 27 2009, 12:52 AM.
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| Strawberry | Jul 27 2009, 01:00 AM Post #2 |
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I find school uniforms one more way of getting students to walk within the lines and becoming amorphous. I've never liked uniforms, except for the strictly necessary ones... like, for example, the authority agents' uniforms. I think that school uniforms could exist, but there shouldn't be a rule telling you MUST wear them everyday. That way, people could opt between wearing the uniform or some jeans and t-shirts. I think it's only positive that young people have the freedom to express themselves and develop their identity... and that includes choosing their own clothing to wear and creating their personal style. Edited by Strawberry, Jul 27 2009, 01:06 AM.
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| * brit :) | Jul 27 2009, 01:16 AM Post #3 |
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It's completely ridiculous. Being in high school, we are in a age where we're trying to find ourselves, and find who we're truly meant to be once we graduate. The only freedom we have is expressing ourselves through clothes, and standing out in a crowd. I love when people tell me how much I stand apart from everyone, because I create my OWN unique style, and I don't rely on anyone else to tell me what to wear, especially adults. I think clothing also relates directly to your mood. If you have to dress the same every single day of the week, aren't you going to feel depressed and angry after a while? It's going to make violence hit an all time high, which is ironic because they're saying this is going to "LOWER VIOLENCE AND MAKE EVERYONE EQUAL". It won't. Not one bit. People are going to have to drop out, because they can't afford a whole new wardrobe. It all boils down to freedom. And if we don't have that, then what else do we have? |
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| * Light | Jul 27 2009, 01:34 AM Post #4 |
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I agree with the both of you, plus they can actually be quite costly as you're growing all the time and you can't really wear them outside of school so it gets expensive. I know that the schools (mine does) can sometimes give you second hand clothes but chances are they'll be too big or small and in bad condition. In College you can wear what you want which is cool but i'm going between college and school daily, and as I never really turn up to school except for exams and important classes unfirom hasn't really been a problem these past few months but it did annoy me, especially when someone could generally mess around in class but get away with nothing yet if you were polite and well mannered but wore trainers or didn't have a tie you'd get *****. I understand the idea that people are worried they may be picked on because what they wear isn't 'cool', but if that's the case I think the school should worry more on kicking out dicks and less on ultimately pointless unfirom codes. |
 
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| Meowth | Jul 27 2009, 02:30 AM Post #5 |
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I think it really depends, I mean both have their pros and cons, if you have a uniform, you might be restricting freedom of expression but you are avoiding the problems that can bring. Without a uniform, you are giving responcibility to kids not to wear clothes that would be offensive or inappropriate. My schools never had uniforms but also had problems with kids wearing inappropriate clothes. I don't see anything wrong with having uniforms at school, you're there to learn, not express yourself or impress others with your clothes. School isn't a place to hang out and mess around, that's what your freetime is for. Uniforms make things easier. |
 
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| * Light | Jul 27 2009, 02:38 AM Post #6 |
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I think School is more than a place to learn. It's almost like a practice for the real world where you have to learn to get on with other people, gain responsibility and generally grow as a person. |
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| Meowth | Jul 27 2009, 02:49 AM Post #7 |
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You don't need fancy clothes to do that though, it rasies the point that with a uniform, it's harder to tell what a person is like without talking to them. So really, kids are more likly to get to know someones personallity rather than basing everything on first impression from clothes. |
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| Strawberry | Jul 27 2009, 03:07 AM Post #8 |
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Who talked about fancy clothes? They could be really cheap. That is not the point. Imagine, for example, that some kid buys a t-shirt with the design of his favorite band and wants to wear it because he thinks that type of music represents his attitude in some way... That's a way of expressing yourself through clothing. If people have substance beyond the style they created for themselves is completely besides the point. You have to talk to them to get to know them, no matter what clothes they're wearing. But in this case, you know something more about that kid than you would know if you always saw him in his uniform. |
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| Mc Esse | Jul 27 2009, 03:07 AM Post #9 |
 
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I don't encourage school uniforms, although I don't think people should make a big deal about not being able to expres yourself. School is an institution that is meant to educate you. You don't go to school to fight, you don't go to school to show off your fancy clothes, you don't go to school to make friends. Yes, the possibilities are endless, when your in school you can do much more than just learn. Although the reason that schools are instituted, is so that we may be educated and certified to pursue our careers.
I wanted to counter this. Sure, I can expres myself with clothes. Although a problem with expressing yourself with clothes is that it can offend some people. Worse yet, people may express themselves with gang colors. That just provokes altercations. Schools are sometimes responsible for your safety and are better off having their kids in uniform if it will provoke danger otherwise. Again, people go to school to learn things. Not to express themselves, there's always after school or the weekend for that. A compromise for a school uniform is a dress code. Therefore, kids won't have to be buttoned up to the neck, although they'll still have to all wear the same line of colors. Edited by Mc Esse, Jul 27 2009, 03:25 AM.
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| * Mitas | Jul 27 2009, 09:39 AM Post #10 |
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I agree with the idea of school uniforms. Sure if you were allowed to wear your own clothes then it would be much easier to express yourself and find those that you would fit in with, but this does come with quite a few problems. The main problem is the inevitability of bullying. Be it because they don't like what you are wearing, the band that your hoody has on the front or the fact that you come from a very poor background and don't have as much clothes as others do, these are all reasons for bullying. School uniforms are simple ways of avoiding all of this because everyone is wearing the same thing and you can not tell if you wear the same uniform all week or two or three different ones and it gets rid of the class divide. Richer pupils can wear a different uniform each day and poorer pupils can wear the same one all week and nobody would tell the difference. If there was no uniform, poorer pupils would get bullied for wearing the same clothes two or three times in a row because they can't afford as much as other pupils. Secondly, it encourages kids to get to know other kids more than they would if they were all wearing their own clothes. No uniforms make it easier for kids to form groups or stereotypes and not interact with other kids. It's not a coincidence that in America there are multiple groups that don't interact with each other and in the UK there is a distinct lack of this. We have non-uniform days in the UK which are much-anticipated events for everybody. It gives you a chance to show your style, express yourself with your clothes and avoids much of the problems that come with schools not wearing uniforms. Thirdly, Light said it is a practice for the real world. In the real world, 9/10 jobs (or more) have a uniform. There is much more ways to express yourself than just by your clothes. Like McEsse said, there is after school, weekends and holidays where you can hang out with those that you become friends with in school and express yourself via clothes in that time. Also, in most schools in the UK once you finish the mandatory years of school and get into Sixth Form, College and University, uniforms become obsolete. Students are older now, and more mature as a result, bullying is almost forgotten (although not completely), so it is easier to implement. |
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| Pookie | Jul 27 2009, 07:35 PM Post #11 |
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I'm just going to add to what Mitas said because he took most of what I said. School uniforms should be a must in schools. A school is meant for educating it's pupils and nothing else. It's purpose is to provide a safe place for students where they can feel comfortable and be able to do the best that they can. With uniforms, you eliminate the chance of a student being mocked or bullied if they are poorer and cannot afford a variety of clothes like their fellow peers. Also, students can focus more on their studies and not worry about what everyone else is thinking. Clothes is just one less item for them to be concerned with. I remember when I was in High School. We didn't have school uniforms, but I sometimes wished we did. There were days where girls would try to push the limits of the dress code policy. This creates a distraction for boys at the school too. If girls are wearing skimpy clothing, then how can you expect a teenage boy to concentrate? I'm not saying that all girls wear skimpy clothing, but there is those that do and by having school uniforms erases the problem. Edited by Pookie, Jul 27 2009, 07:37 PM.
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| Enigmus | Jul 27 2009, 09:40 PM Post #12 |
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I actually really hated my school uniform, Everybody looks the same, and nothing is unique. |
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| * brit :) | Jul 28 2009, 01:18 AM Post #13 |
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I understand what you're saying, but they're still going to challenge the dress code, uniforms or not. Especially more so with uniforms, because it gives you that feeling that you have to rebel. Uniforms should be strictly for private schools and should never cross into public school territory. High school is not just about learning. It's about making yourselves, developing close nit friendships/relationships with your peers, and readying yourself for just life in general. I feel as uniforms stifle creativity in general. When you're trying to get career after you graduate, they're not going to look for the same old plain Jane that they already have. They're looking for someone that's well rounded, and stands out from the crowd, physically and mentally. That's just how it is. |
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| + Byakko | Jul 28 2009, 01:23 AM Post #14 |
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I hate Uniform. My school has it, and I've always hated it. It feels so horrible to not be able to find your friends because everybody wears roughly the same. Teachers shout at students who don't wear "proper" clothes (No tie, shirt unbuttoned too low etc). It's pointless. I want to be able to say "This is me, I don't give two sh*ts if you like it or not, so long as you know I'm me." which is impossible when uniform is involved. Uniform for work is okay, for stores and the movies and the like, so you can identify people. There's always the counter argument of "What about the kids who can't afford nice clothes" a tie for my school costs £5. I bought a pair of jeans a couple of days ago for £3, and they kick *****. Don't bull*****, look around for some places and realise that designer isn't cool. ESPECIALLY Fred Perry |
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| * Mitas | Jul 28 2009, 12:11 PM Post #15 |
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But the thing is, you don't need to be wearing your own clothes to be your own person. You must be quite limited if you can only express yourself through clothes, the most direct way of expression. One example is that me and my friends would play Pokemon at lunch and break times. We were known throughout the school for it and were respected by a lot of people for doing what we wanted to do and not caring what some people would say, and standing up to them. We all wore the same uniform, but had our own character. For people who so often say that personality is so much better than looks, you're focusing a lot on how important clothes are. |
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