Bardock vs Vegeta (Pre-Dragonball Z)

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Bardock vs Vegeta (Pre-Dragonball Z)
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JazGeta	Jul 18 2009, 09:40 AM Post #1
Posts: 23 Group: New Member Member #4,291 Joined: July 6, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	I was wondering because Bardock is supposedly stronger than King Vegeta yet Vegeta says that he passed his father's power level easily in the Frieza Saga so who is stronger



~~Frankie~~	Jul 18 2009, 12:24 PM Post #2
Posts: 573 Group: GTFO Member #593 Joined: August 8, 2005	You gotta think about this logically. Vegeta on Namek gave Zarbon a decent fight and you need to know that Zarbon was way stronger than Bardock was. So I'd say Vegeta would win. I even think Vegeta in the Saiyan saga, would put Bardocks money where his mouth is. <_<;



Enigmus	Jul 18 2009, 12:36 PM Post #3
Wut??? Posts: 722 Group: Member Member #4,319 Joined: July 17, 2009 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Gah	If its Pre Dragonball Z, I would say bardock... As vegeta is is quite weak during the sayain saga. So i would say bardock would kick his ***. Sorry Guys ^^^^ Edited by Enigmus**, Jul 18 2009, 06:06 PM.
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Nothing	Jul 18 2009, 02:01 PM Post #4
Posts: 153 Group: Member Member #4,026 Joined: March 13, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox	SS4 Jul 18 2009, 12:24 PM You gotta think about this logically. Vegeta on Namek gave Zarbon a decent fight and you need to know that Zarbon was way stronger than Bardock was. So I'd say Vegeta would win. I even think Vegeta in the Saiyan saga, would put Bardocks money where his mouth is. <_<; Yup you said it, I agree with you 100%



BattleMetal	Jul 18 2009, 02:02 PM Post #5
Posts: 596 Group: Member Member #3,821 Joined: November 24, 2008	We dont know how strong Vegeta was before Saiyan saga and we can only take our information from the Bardock movie. Thinking outside the box. Weak low class Saiyans probably had pl's no higher than 1500 maybe 2000, elites power levels where above 2000 probably closer to 5000. Vegeta was a rare case and probably had more time for his pl to reach the 18,000 limit, he would have been protected by Frieza as he was his pet trophy so wont have been sent to overly dangerous worlds until he was strong enough. Remember Saiyans depended on their Oozaru ability to win conflicts against stronger races, most races probably wouldnt have had fighters above a pl of 30,000. This would be an individual versus an entire group of mighty Oozarus with pls at 40,000+. Bardock from the movie seems to have grealty exceeded the low-class limit and has far grown beyond even normal elite levels in constant battles. This is probably thanks to technology to recover from near death injuries (Healing Pods) as he would have met plenty of dangerous opponents/ situations. Bardock versus Vegeta if at same level, mmm? Vegetas expectation to win cause he is an Elite versus the supposed low class fighter (sounds familiar). Would Vegeta give Bardock respect even if he knew he was an equal or disregard him. Would Bardock fight more aggressivly against Vegeta, would Vegetas pride be enough to prevent defeat. Both are likely to have been in plenty of combat to gain experience. Bardock is going to be used to fighting stronger enemies and overcoming them so wont be intimidated. Vegeta is likely to been taught very powerful attacks that are exclusive to royalty versus Bardocks own primitive low-class style. Im tempted to say Bardock but i think Vegeta could win this as well if at same level and it came down to more personal drive.
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* Mitas	Jul 18 2009, 02:04 PM Post #6
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	I'd say it'd be even. Since it's pre-DBZ, and the Bardock movie was pre-DBZ, then we can take everything that happened in that movie but nothing that happened in DBZ. Bardock's power level is believed to be around 10,000. I can't remember any exact figures (if there were any mentioned) but I think Vegeta's was about 15,000 when he fought Goku. He and Nappa did fight and train on their way to Earth, and we have to take that out as they only made their way once Raditz was dead. I think we could probably take off a couple thousand from Vegeta's power level during the time it took for them to get to Earth.
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BUU	Jul 18 2009, 06:24 PM Post #7
Posts: 148 Group: Member Member #4,313 Joined: July 15, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? internet explorer Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	SS4 Jul 18 2009, 12:24 PM You gotta think about this logically. Vegeta on Namek gave Zarbon a decent fight and you need to know that Zarbon was way stronger than Bardock was. So I'd say Vegeta would win. I even think Vegeta in the Saiyan saga, would put Bardocks money where his mouth is. <_<; If its Pre Dragonball Z, I would say bardock... As vegeta is is quite weak during the sayain saga. So i would say bardock would kick his *****. Well, actually, Zarbon had a power level of 23,000 he wasn't way stronger than Bardock. Only by 13,000 (okay, that's a lot.) And Vegeta gave Zarbon a hard time because of Zenkai (the battle against Goku and his first fight against Zarbon). And we're talking about Vegeta ibefore DBZ. Vegeta wasn't weak in the Saiyan Saga. He had a power level of 18,000. But since Vegeta claims to have passed his father's level (around 10,000) when he was a child, this could give Vegeta the advantage. However, there is the possibilty that Vegeta could've just been boasting to intimidate Frieza. (I bet Raditz would probably say that he surpassed Bardock too ).For power level, I would say that they would be around the same, so it would be close. But if they transformed into Apes, Vegeta would win because he can control himself, but Bardock would be reckless.



RyDub	Jul 18 2009, 11:38 PM Post #8
Posts: 128 Group: Member Member #4,252 Joined: June 19, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball / DBZ / DBGT What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga don't have one	I am going to say Bardock if it's pre DBZ I would think that he would have much more experience at fighting and all. That and even though he was Sayian he didn't seem as Ruthless as the others actually seeming like he cared for his team.



Meta Cooler	Jul 25 2009, 10:41 PM Post #9
Posts: 299 Group: Member Member #4,304 Joined: July 12, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z/GT What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer	JazGeta Jul 18 2009, 09:40 AM I was wondering because Bardock is supposedly stronger than King Vegeta yet Vegeta says that he passed his father's power level easily in the Frieza Saga so who is stronger You said Vegeta past his fathers strength in the Frieza saga and this is about pre dragonball z, so he's not as strong as his father, when bardock is. I'm taking Bardock.
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Zeepwhat	Aug 26 2009, 04:33 AM Post #10
Posts: 27 Group: Member Member #4,415 Joined: August 26, 2009 What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z	Well if its "Pre Dragonball Z" when Bardock is still alive and Vegeta before the saiyan saga... -Bardock actually got past Freeza's Saiyan Henchmen. -Vegeta in pre Dragonball Z wouldn't stand a chance against Freeza's henchman. I don't know I should think about this one more but I have to give this one to Bardock.
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rob	Aug 26 2009, 10:29 AM Post #11
Posts: 203 Group: Member Member #4,195 Joined: May 15, 2009 Favourite Anime dragonball, dragonball z	Zeepwhat Aug 26 2009, 04:33 AM -Bardock actually got past Freeza's Saiyan Henchmen. -Vegeta in pre Dragonball Z wouldn't stand a chance against Freeza's henchman. I don't know I should think about this one more but I have to give this one to Bardock. frieza was going to destroy the saiyans, there were no saiyans helping frieza, it was bardock leading the saiyans into the battle against frieza. frieza's henchmen are all weak, look at the ones gohan and krillin encountered on namek, they dealt with them easily, and vegeta was way stronger than those two in the saiyan saga and probably years before that, the only challenging henchmen frieza had was dodoria and zarbon inwhich vegeta beat both of them. so i think vegeta would win this one, vegeta is a super elite warrior, bardock is a low class warrior, no matter how much battle experience he gained he could not beat vegeta, and he probably would not fight the prince of all saiyans. king vegeta was very quick to execute one of his minions for almost nothing, yet any of them would give their lives to protect the king and prince, king vegeta's attack on frieza, they all went with him, and bardock's assault the whole saiyan race was behind him, all fighting for the king and his son (and the survival of the race).



Super Goku	Aug 28 2009, 12:42 AM Post #12
Vizard Jinchurikii Posts: 966 Group: Member Member #4,266 Joined: June 26, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Naruto	vegeta. He surpassed his father as a child, and i bet king vegeta had a PL of atleast 10,000... bardock was 10,000... they were both elite, but vegeta surpassed the king of saiyans. as a CHILD. so as a teenager (which is still pre-DBZ) i bet he could take bardock. with some struggle
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TheElite	Aug 28 2009, 09:14 PM Post #13
Posts: 90 Group: Member Member #4,414 Joined: August 25, 2009 Favourite Anime not sure..... What Browser do you use? mozilla firefox Favourite Manga have not tried manga yet	BUU Jul 18 2009, 06:24 PM SS4 Jul 18 2009, 12:24 PM You gotta think about this logically. Vegeta on Namek gave Zarbon a decent fight and you need to know that Zarbon was way stronger than Bardock was. So I'd say Vegeta would win. I even think Vegeta in the Saiyan saga, would put Bardocks money where his mouth is. <_<; If its Pre Dragonball Z, I would say bardock... As vegeta is is quite weak during the sayain saga. So i would say bardock would kick his *****. Well, actually, Zarbon had a power level of 23,000 he wasn't way stronger than Bardock. Only by 13,000 (okay, that's a lot.) And Vegeta gave Zarbon a hard time because of Zenkai (the battle against Goku and his first fight against Zarbon). And we're talking about Vegeta ibefore DBZ. Vegeta wasn't weak in the Saiyan Saga. He had a power level of 18,000. But since Vegeta claims to have passed his father's level (around 10,000) when he was a child, this could give Vegeta the advantage. However, there is the possibilty that Vegeta could've just been boasting to intimidate Frieza. (I bet Raditz would probably say that he surpassed Bardock too ).For power level, I would say that they would be around the same, so it would be close. But if they transformed into Apes, Vegeta would win because he can control himself, but Bardock would be reckless. hmm...if ur refering to Vegeta as a kid im pretty sure his power level was 12,000 or so
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+ Rebel X	Aug 28 2009, 09:20 PM Post #14
Posts: 11,612 Group: Legend Member #88 Joined: January 16, 2005	I think they were pretty even up to the time when Vegeta first fought Goku and when Bardock faced Frieza.



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