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Reading and Revealing Thoughts
Topic Started: Jun 28 2009, 08:00 PM (171 Views)
Mitas	Jun 28 2009, 08:00 PM Post #1
Subject To Change Posts: 3,106 Group: Super Moderator Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga DBZ	I've been reading some of Isaac Asimov's (one of the, if not the, greatest Sci-Fi writers) work and in one of the short stories they discover a thought reading machine. I just wanted to see what people here would think if this was achieved in reality? Would you agree with it? Would the breach of the inner-most privacy of us human beings be justified to solve crimes? Would it even be allowed in society?
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Trickster	Jun 28 2009, 08:50 PM Post #2
Ninja Posts: 327 Group: Member Member #4,130 Joined: April 17, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Naruto What Browser do you use? Firefox	I think the government would be able to make it legal, because crimes would go down to almost nothing, if they had these all over the place. They would know who was going to do what before it was done. However, I wouldn't like the idea of that, because our mind is the only thing thats not invaded. They would have to put a cap on it or something, so whoever was watching it didn't hear or see what everyone was saying, it just flagged certain words said.
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+ Byakko	Jun 28 2009, 10:08 PM Post #3
Operor Vel Non Operor Posts: 8,848 Group: Legend Member #158 Joined: February 7, 2005 Favourite Anime Naruto Shippuuden What Browser do you use? Opera 9.6 Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	I hate the thought of people being able to read my thoughts. The mind is the only sanctuary that is ours and ours alone. For somebody to be able to access that, and use it for their own purposes (As they surely would), is horrifying. That said, if I could read minds, I'd love to. I've always wanted to understand how people think and what they think in comparison to what they say. Hypocritical, I know, lmao
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Mc Esse	Jun 28 2009, 11:11 PM Post #4
<3 Posts: 861 Group: Member Member #4,041 Joined: March 21, 2009 Favourite Anime Inuyasha What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	That would never ever be invented, but for the sake of the big if, it would possibly be one of the greatest inventions if not, the greatest invention for the judicial institution.
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Kotetsu	Jun 29 2009, 05:28 AM Post #5
SOUPER SAYIN THREE Posts: 6,113 Group: Admin Adviser Member #48 Joined: December 17, 2004 Favourite Anime Naruto What Browser do you use? Firefox, anything else is for failures. Favourite Manga Naruto Shippuuden, Straight from Japan.	The problem of having such a device is abuse of power. Freedom would cease to exist.
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Mitas	Jun 29 2009, 09:11 AM Post #6
Subject To Change Posts: 3,106 Group: Super Moderator Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga DBZ	Mc Esse Jun 28 2009, 11:11 PM That would never ever be invented, but for the sake of the big if, it would possibly be one of the greatest inventions if not, the greatest invention for the judicial institution. I'm sure that it is definately possible. Maybe not in our lifetime, but it is possible. You say never, but how many people would have said "never" to flying, ships being able to float, telephones, television, so many medical inventions. With humans, you can't say "never" to any invention. Back to the topic, I think that it would be one of the biggest breach of our basic human rights, if not the biggest. I mean even slaves have their minds as a sanctuary where they can retreat to. There would be worldwide uproar, but that hasn't stopped other processes or punishments that breach human rights being used so I think that if/when it is invented then it will no doubt be abused. I personally think that there are people who would rather die than have their thoughts read and revealed.
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* NeciFiX	Jul 8 2009, 10:55 PM Post #7
Don't Read This. Posts: 11,175 Group: Retired Staff Member #415 Joined: April 21, 2005	No, maybe only in court cases. For instance, instead of a lie detector, a mind reader! I think NOBODY but the Government should have them and they can only use them in high-profile cases to discern the truth, not to abuse.
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*Brian*	Jul 9 2009, 04:39 PM Post #8
Homosexual Ogre Posts: 936 Group: Troll Member #4,185 Joined: May 9, 2009 What Browser do you use? Firefox	Mitas Jun 29 2009, 09:11 AM Back to the topic, I think that it would be one of the biggest breach of our basic human rights, if not the biggest. I mean even slaves have their minds as a sanctuary where they can retreat to. There would be worldwide uproar, but that hasn't stopped other processes or punishments that breach human rights being used so I think that if/when it is invented then it will no doubt be abused. I personally think that there are people who would rather die than have their thoughts read and revealed. "Back to the topic, I think that it would be one of the biggest breach of our basic human rights, if not the biggest. I mean even slaves have their minds as a sanctuary where they can retreat to." The inability to contain your personal thoughts without them being invaded is nowhere - NEAR - as ridiculous as slavery. In a way, I would agree with this idea. It's selfish, but I would. I'm the type of person that has nothing to hide, and with a fear and lack of trusting others, I would agree with this concept for the safety of all. Safety > Privacy
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Mitas	Jul 10 2009, 08:20 AM Post #9
Subject To Change Posts: 3,106 Group: Super Moderator Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga DBZ	Brian Jul 9 2009, 04:39 PM Mitas Jun 29 2009, 09:11 AM Back to the topic, I think that it would be one of the biggest breach of our basic human rights, if not the biggest. I mean even slaves have their minds as a sanctuary where they can retreat to. The inability to contain your personal thoughts without them being invaded is nowhere - NEAR - as ridiculous as slavery. Where did I compare it to slavery? What I said was that even slaves, who's every right has been taken away, have their inner thoughts to escape to. To take away that would be to take away their last ounce of freedom. Edited by Mitas, Jul 10 2009, 08:21 AM.
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*Light*	Jul 10 2009, 10:23 AM Post #10
The world belongs to those of us who still believe we can Posts: 3,536 Group: Shadow Rep Member #2,705 Joined: October 5, 2007 What Browser do you use? FF	Brian Jul 9 2009, 04:39 PM Mitas Jun 29 2009, 09:11 AM Back to the topic, I think that it would be one of the biggest breach of our basic human rights, if not the biggest. I mean even slaves have their minds as a sanctuary where they can retreat to. There would be worldwide uproar, but that hasn't stopped other processes or punishments that breach human rights being used so I think that if/when it is invented then it will no doubt be abused. I personally think that there are people who would rather die than have their thoughts read and revealed. "Back to the topic, I think that it would be one of the biggest breach of our basic human rights, if not the biggest. I mean even slaves have their minds as a sanctuary where they can retreat to." The inability to contain your personal thoughts without them being invaded is nowhere - NEAR - as ridiculous as slavery. Ever Read 1984? I would consider it much worse than slavery.



+ Mcgeezle	Jul 10 2009, 08:56 PM Post #11
Heeeey...this isn't my house! >_< Posts: 507 Group: Elite Member Member #3,751 Joined: October 17, 2008 Favourite Anime Fruits basket, Azumanga Daioh, Elfin Lied, School Rumble What Browser do you use? Firefox/Safari Favourite Manga Magical X Miracle	All I know is that if people were capable of reading each others minds - the world would be a much more hostile place. Common decency and respect is what keeps us from keeping our thoughts in our mind, and if we lost that privacy it would result in a lot of people getting hurt (to say the least) and the human race as a whole would most likely become a solitary species.
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*Brian*	Jul 11 2009, 12:56 AM Post #12
Homosexual Ogre Posts: 936 Group: Troll Member #4,185 Joined: May 9, 2009 What Browser do you use? Firefox	^ Yeah, I can see that. A sad reality indeed, but because we are (as a whole) pretty ***ty, everyone would probably be full of hatred at one another. Worse than slavery though? Pfft. My ***.
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*Light*	Jul 11 2009, 10:16 AM Post #13
The world belongs to those of us who still believe we can Posts: 3,536 Group: Shadow Rep Member #2,705 Joined: October 5, 2007 What Browser do you use? FF	Read 1984, i'm terrible at conveying my thoughts and constructing a good point but the book does a great job of showing the horror of what could happen if this technology was possible and (in my OPINION) it's a lot worse than slavery. As you didn't andswer my question I'll assume you haven't, having people who are able to know your thoughts, imagine a government which could read the thoughts of all the citizens. if you're a slave they own your body, you're there possesion but your thoughts are your own. If the goverment knew your thinking process, your ideals, everything about you. Then you are a slave to the government int he ultimate way. You'd put safety before privacy? To what extent? I would never agree to something like this. Freedom > safety > privacy. Edited by Light, Jul 11 2009, 02:18 PM.



selfdestruction	Jul 11 2009, 07:48 PM Post #14
hellcat and the prowl Posts: 214 Group: Member Member #4,103 Joined: April 9, 2009 Favourite Anime dbz , elfen lied,tsukihime What Browser do you use? ff Favourite Manga vampire knight	the day that machine would be created and people start using it ill be walking naked on the street. but i wont be alive when they'll invent it so i dont care about it



Mitas	Jul 11 2009, 10:46 PM Post #15
Subject To Change Posts: 3,106 Group: Super Moderator Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga DBZ	I completely agree with you Light. If anybody hasn't read 1984 then I reccommend it, it deals with this issue in great detail. But Light's explanation does sum it up. If you are a slave then yes you have a horribly hard life, but you still have your mind and thoughts. Imagine a world where you're forced into activities that you don't want to do, jobs you don't want to do, you're forced to believe in certain things and people and if you even think anything different then you are taken away and "convinced" to think the right things again. Definately worse than slavery as it is seen now in my opinion.
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