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Tyson VS Bruce Lee
Topic Started: Jun 14 2009, 03:04 AM (1,243 Views)
Mc Esse Jul 4 2009, 01:03 AM Post #91
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^ That actually made me laugh.

BattleMetal: Yes, in the UFC and other similar programs, 4 ounce gelatin gloves are used.

Because all Iron Mike can pull of is a punch
"ONE PUNCH PNE PUNCH ALL IT TAKES IT ONE PUNCH"

yeah, one punch then when his right knuckles break where's that one punch? flushed down across the river to Hell's Kitchen lololololololol.

In case you didn;t know, a fist is built with bones and skin. An elbow is a harder and bigger bone surrounded by raw muscle. Which one outlasts the other? Do the math.

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ok Mc Esse good point.
Problem arises when you take in consideration that Tyson is naturally going to have a thicker bone structure than Lee overall. Also his hands are used to hit all the time so will be well conditioned.

Lets not let this turn into a debate about elbows versus knuckles.

Regardless i dont think Lee would depend on this method to win in a fight, also remember that Tyson has knockout power in both hands so would likely use the other hand.

In boxing when we spar sometimes you can catch the other guys elbow when you punch the body and it does hurt, thats with 18ounce gloves.
I know of a Super Heavyweight Boxer (108kg- amatuer weights, he would be classed as Heabyweight as pro) who sparred with a pro boxer at heavyweight (would be Cruiserweight in pros so about 90kg). The Super fractured three of his fingers when he caught the Cruisers elbow, this however was a freak accident.
Remember these two didnt have the extremes of weight that Tyson and Lee would have in their fight.

Thing is in Tysons case he is much bigger than Lee i dont think this is likely to happen. Plus Lee would risk a lot if he was trying to beat Tyson in this way. I dont think Lee would want Tyson to even touch him with a punch, blocked or not.

EDIT: i dont know what happened i had stuff put up but somehow they didnt all get saved so i had to retype this again.
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^ That actually made me laugh.

BattleMetal: Yes, in the UFC and other similar programs, 4 ounce gelatin gloves are used.

Because all Iron Mike can pull of is a punch
"ONE PUNCH PNE PUNCH ALL IT TAKES IT ONE PUNCH"

yeah, one punch then when his right knuckles break where's that one punch? flushed down across the river to Hell's Kitchen lololololololol.

In case you didn;t know, a fist is built with bones and skin. An elbow is a harder and bigger bone surrounded by raw muscle. Which one outlasts the other? Do the math.
Alright, so let me get this straight... You honestly believe Mike Tyson would throw a punch, Bruce Lee would, uh, block it with his elbow, and it would break Tyson's knuckles..? Okay, right? I've never seen that in my life. Never even heard of it, nor do I think it'd be likely. ...at all.


Oh, and just for the record, can you stop being so obnoxious? Saying things like:

"Because all Iron Mike can pull of is a punch
'ONE PUNCH PNE PUNCH ALL IT TAKES IT ONE PUNCH'"

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"lololololololol."

-don't do you much good.


This is a serious debate in need of reasonable attitude. The less mature you are, the less your chances of being taken seriously are. (and the more obnoxious and childish you come off as)
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Tyson, as Lee was front flipping over him, he would jump and bite his ear off. Ouch.
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Tyson, as Lee was front flipping over him, he would jump and bite his ear off. Ouch.
What an amazingly relevant post. First of all, biting has clearly been distributed as a DQ stipulation. Secondly, what is the point of that post, anyway? I mean, it wasn't even funny man. Come on. At least make a funny joke if you're going to spam. You're probably about the 4th person that's talked about biting ears.

Does anybody here know what they're talking about? Somebody who's educated on the subject needs to try and defend Lee, because all I've heard so far isn't nearly enough to change my mind. (the irony in that, is that somebody educated on the subject wouldn't defend Lee)

This is still a simple, unfair match up in my opinion.
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Mike Tyson nwould win in reality but that doesn't kill the point that he is a mother*****ing nappy headed *****!
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I entirely agree. Well said.
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Tyson, as Lee was front flipping over him, he would jump and bite his ear off. Ouch.
What an amazingly relevant post. First of all, biting has clearly been distributed as a DQ stipulation. Secondly, what is the point of that post, anyway? I mean, it wasn't even funny man. Come on. At least make a funny joke if you're going to spam. You're probably about the 4th person that's talked about biting ears.

Does anybody here know what they're talking about? Somebody who's educated on the subject needs to try and defend Lee, because all I've heard so far isn't nearly enough to change my mind. (the irony in that, is that somebody educated on the subject wouldn't defend Lee)

This is still a simple, unfair match up in my opinion.
I made a pointless post because this a disputed, yet dumb matchup. A boxer vs a Martial Artist? I'm no sports freak or anything like that, but, that just doesn't make sense. That's why I made a dumb post.
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I made a pointless post because this a disputed, yet dumb matchup. A boxer vs a Martial Artist? I'm no sports freak or anything like that, but, that just doesn't make sense. That's why I made a dumb post.

How's it pointless? mixed martial arts, (pawning boxers, wrsetlers and even karate masters and etc. in a cage together) has spawned into a phenominal sports promotion.

(UFC in case your wondering)

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I've seen a lot of boxing and my friend knows Martial Arts [I've been kicked in the nose twice now] and I see few similarities.
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This is a fight between two human beings who where at the top of their game.
It doesnt matter what style they use to win with as this is a fight to see who is the best. Not what style is the best, it comes down to each mans indidual skill and mind set as a fighter.

Boxing has just as great a potential win in a fight as any other style if used correctly and if the boxer is aware of the opposing persons strengths and weaknesses. It comes down to individual ability as well as training.

The only thing 'dumb' about this matchup as already mentioned by Brian is that Tyson has a huge weight advantage over Lee. This like an encounter between David and Goliath.
Lee could potentially win this fight but it would take a big stretch to achieve against a wrecking machine like Tyson. It is not impossible just not very probable as Tyson is no average joe.

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Well apparently anyone that says Bruce Lee would win is not intellegent enough for this topic. Brian here's your last chance stop talking about people that say Bruce Lee would win like they are meaningless. There has been a lot of good points given yet you keep putting everyone down. Keep doing that and I'll lock this thread. Cause it's honestly making me sick already
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^ Taken consideration of the "points" my fellow debaters are making, it seems absolutely ridiculous to assume anything but their lack of knowledge on the topic. Some people here are talking about what Bruce Lee has done in movies. You're telling me that statements of the like are relevant in any way whatsoever? This is not about movies, and it isn't about myths and legends. It's about facts of science, and I can't help but feel like I'm correct on this issue, as I have a vast knowledge (and even experience) on the matter. I'm sorry, I just call it like it is. Period.

"There has been a lot of good points given yet you keep putting everyone down."

-Good- points? I'm not so sure they stack up to the argument I've put up. I don't understand why it's making you sick either. If the minority were the ones being vocally ignored for their unreasonable opinions, you wouldn't be pointing me out like that.

I have done nothing more than defend my reasoning, and tried to prove others wrong- as I should in a debate. It sounds as though you either disagree with me, or have something personal going on. Good luck.

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Some people here are talking about what Bruce Lee has done in movies. You're telling me that statements of the like are relevant in any way whatsoever? This is not about movies, and it isn't about myths and legends. It's about facts of science, and I can't help but feel like I'm correct on this issue, as I have a vast knowledge (and even experience) on the matter. I'm sorry, I just call it like it is. Period.

I'm glad you say some, because I never mentionned the movies.

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Im not bothered as i do have reasonable opinions and understand fighting. Dont feel like you have insulted me at all Brian.
Ive never overlooked Tysons size or viewed Lee from a movie stand point. Viewed them primarily as combatants.

I like to look at things from different angles and try not to overlook things. I try to take into account different aspects. This is a debate and one i have taken part in on both sides. You posted this up for people to discuss and they have, over a hundred posts is a lot for such a simple match up.



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