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Jun 30 2009, 08:58 PM Post #46 |
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Psh, what a dumb argument. I'm very happy this thread is not dead yet, but come on, kid. I can just as easily say, "Well what if Tyson's recorded spine breaking 1800 lbs of force connected with little Lee's skull?" He'd die, that's what. Are his chances of surviving really all that good if he's going to get a skull fracture inducing, neck breaking, god hammer in the form of fist to the mouth? |
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| Mc Esse | Jul 1 2009, 04:32 AM Post #47 |
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Tyson has between minimal to absolutley no training or experience in any form of grappling, clinch fighting, submision wrestling, sambo, greco-roman, jiu-jitsu, brazilian jiu jitsu, judo, aikido, catch wrestling, sumo, wrestling, freestyle wrestling, and etc. Yet you are implying that he can out-wrestle Bruce Lee. Pure genius. Edited by Mc Esse, Jul 1 2009, 04:37 AM.
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Jul 1 2009, 06:52 AM Post #48 |
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~Out on the Tiles~
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Nope. Being an experienced martial artist, Bruce Lee knows ways of disarming a larger person who prefers standing up and trading punches. Mike on the other hand has absolutely no other fighting experience besides punching. And why should he? That is his sport. Which is why this thread is stupid. And you think Bruce Lee would let the fight occur standing up where he knows Mike is comfortable? You're assuming he would actually plan on trading with him? No, obviously not, only a moron would think that… hmm. I wonder how often Mike practices takedown defense and offense from his back? Probably a ton, considering he’s a boxer. I hate Lee nuthuggers as much as the next person, and if this fight had been between.. say Lee and Frank Mir or any other heavyweight MMA fighter with well-rounded skills it would be a completely different story. It’s pretty simple… Mike Tyson more than likely has no clue what to do on the ground, and Bruce Lee would know this. By the way, don’t get so defensive. It’s weird. @ Mcesse: Calm down. I was talking about the fact that you said "underground" when you probably meant to say (I hope) on the ground
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| SSJVegito | Jul 1 2009, 08:30 AM Post #49 |
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Ally to good. Nightmare to you.
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Did anyone else remember that Bruce Lee did boxing at one point in his life? And he destroyed the other guy. He moves too fast. The man has tried and exceeded in every form of fighting he has tried. |
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| Rockman | Jul 1 2009, 12:10 PM Post #50 |
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hoighty-toighty
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I had to know if it was true. |
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Jul 1 2009, 12:50 PM Post #51 |
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Nah, here's what's "pure genius". I -NEVER- said he could out wrestle him. Lol I love it. But with a 70 lb weight advantage, I can't see him having a very hard time tossing him around like a small 16 year old. As I said before, one punch, one ice cold Bruce Lee coming up. The man's far too big, far too strong, far too conditioned, he's unstoppable. No wrestling maneuver, no jujitsu maneuver, nothing is going to work on this guy. Far too big and strong from his inhuman conditioning as the world's greatest lb for lb heavyweight boxer. This is basic reasoning, basic logic. The mere presence in between the two is leagues apart. VERY unfair match up. Edited by Dark, Jul 1 2009, 12:57 PM.
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| Mc Esse | Jul 1 2009, 01:00 PM Post #52 |
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LOLLLLL @ Brian!
That quote wasn't even directed at you! You didn't even saywhat was in those quote bubbles!!! Now I'm laughing. btw Brian, you should know that even if you are 70 lbs bigger then me, and you push me to the ground, and I am a skilled grappler. Don't expect your unskilled ground and pound to get you very far. Yes your right, you can surely crack my skull open! But what happens if I get your neck in a gogoplata? You're either a) dead b) rushed to the hospital c) out cold
that's exactly what I meant.. If you don't mind me asking, as an experienced Martial Artist, don't you ever use or hear that lingo? |
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Jul 1 2009, 01:48 PM Post #53 |
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What are you, 13? Jesus. "btw Brian, you should know that even if you are 70 lbs bigger then me, and you push me to the ground, and I am a skilled grappler. Don't expect your unskilled ground and pound to get you very far. Yes your right, you can surely crack my skull open! But what happens if I get your neck in a gogoplata? You're either" Well I'm not exactly Mike Tyson, either. So I don't just have to bust your face one time to basically kill you. |
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| Mc Esse | Jul 1 2009, 01:51 PM Post #54 |
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lol!? Need I get into specifics? MIKE TYSON HAS NO GROUND GAME. 'nuff said I shouldn't even waste my time explaining this and hurtng my index fingers, did you even read when Haze said.
Mike Tyson has no defense on the ground. He'll be as useful as a flopping fish. Edited by Mc Esse, Jul 1 2009, 01:58 PM.
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Jul 1 2009, 02:32 PM Post #55 |
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-and did you hear me when I said it might not even happen like that? What if Mike lands that sole punch he needs? The whole "what if" ***** doesn't do anything here. If I had wheels I'd be a wagon. The facts are, Tyson can kill somebody in a single punch. Tyson is a boxer. Tyson has pin-point accuracy. That alone, along with his gargantuan size advantage and world class heavyweight boxing chin is enough for me. Actually, not -just-, "enough for me," it's like, not even fair. Statistically in regard to these facts, this is brutally unfair. "MIKE TYSON HAS NO GROUND GAME" Well Bruce Lee has no helmet when he embraces a small car collision in the form of a fist. Edited by Dark, Jul 1 2009, 02:36 PM.
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| Mc Esse | Jul 1 2009, 02:51 PM Post #56 |
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The facts are; Tyson is just a boxer. Bruce Lee has a grappling arsenal up his sleeve. A smart grappler does not keep the fight standing up, does not even start the fight standing up at times! just goes straight underground. Unless your stating Bruce Lee has no intelligence, then that's a different story. The facts are, Lee can kill somebody with a simple pin. That alone with his 20+ years of experience, Lee has the grappling accuracy and precision of a marksmen from the bible belt. Statisticlly speaking, Mike has almost nothing in defense to Bruce's grappling, I don;t care if he's wearing brass knuckles. This fight is over for him when Bruce Lee sweeps him off his big thighs and pins him. Despite the fact that I totally agree with you that Tyson would mop the floor with Bruce Lee in a boxing match, that's all Tyson is. A humongous, dangerous, heavyweight, first class chin'd, boxer. |
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Jul 1 2009, 03:06 PM Post #57 |
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That's just NOT enough. Not at all. Thinking that he's going to easily take him down, and supposedly finish his big ***** like that, I'm really doubting that's how it happens. Really doubting it. Just that one punch, man. That one single punch, and it's all over. He could just as easily land that punch as Bruce Lee could -attempt- a take down. A take down is never certain, never given. That punch I'm talking about? That is certain. Edited by Dark, Jul 1 2009, 03:08 PM.
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| Mc Esse | Jul 1 2009, 04:54 PM Post #58 |
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All you've been saying for the past month on this topic is "one punch one punch one punch." i understand completley that one punch thing and all. But you make it hard to imagine that Bruce Lee will not approach Tyson only to lift his chin up and wait for 1800 lbs velocity. |
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Jul 1 2009, 05:37 PM Post #59 |
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You make it hard to imagine that Tyson is going to stand there and wait for an already risky, uncertain take down attempt. Do you think the many that fell in Tyson's wake planned on tasting the canvas? Do you think they just stood there? They might as well have, but they didn't. It made no difference. |
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| Mc Esse | Jul 1 2009, 05:43 PM Post #60 |
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Now you're just making it seem as though he's immortal, when clearly he was not even undefeated in his career. Can you say; Overrating?
And another thing, don't compare a jab to a takedown. A takedown can be executed on 360 angles. A jab can only go straight. Edited by Mc Esse, Jul 1 2009, 05:44 PM.
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