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| Tyson VS Bruce Lee | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 14 2009, 03:04 AM (5,170 Views) | |
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Jun 14 2009, 03:04 AM Post #1 |
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A popular debate over the internet, but I can't really see why. It must just be obvious to only me that Tyson busts his little head like an egg shell with one punch. Well, here goes. Aside from the fact that Lee is entirely outweighed by a whopping 70 lbs of fierce, inhuman killing machine, let's state the things that aren't obvious. Tyson is fast. Don't let his legendary power fool you. This crazy scum bag can launch rockets, which is bad enough, but most people don't even see them coming. ...WITH gloves on. Saying that Lee is way way way faster is entirely untrue. Take a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FozA0KrTY0A&feature=related Now, anybody who has worn gloves before knows just how much they can slow your actual speed and power down. That's why this is absolutely astonishing to me. Every punch, a concussion packed blast, at phenomenal 210 lb speed to top it off. The man lived a life of taking 210+ lbs of force to the skull for hours. A punch from Bruce Lee's 130 lbs would be like getting bitten by a mosquito for this monster. Needless to say, Lee's small frame couldn't possibly take Mike Tyson's superpower. Not even a single pawnch. Lee VS Tyson? This to me is a 5 second long slugging massacre of two punches from Tyson at the maximum. Lee dies. He doesn't just lose, he dies from brain damage of a bare knuckled, real life behemoth slaughtering him like a sadistic animal. |
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| Mc Esse | Jun 14 2009, 03:10 AM Post #2 |
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Tyson goes underground, he's finished. |
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| * -Zero- | Jun 14 2009, 03:36 AM Post #3 |
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Bruce Lee was pretty strong. Same way you are saying not to be fooled by Tyson's speed, don't be fooled by Bruce Lee's strength. Also martial arts requires greater skill than boxing does as so much more goes into it. One of the highlights of martial arts is self defence meaning he learned to defend against big guys as well. Actually Bruce Lee did take on bigger guys than him in real life. Just because he's tiny doesn't mean he will lose quickly. I'm going with Bruce Lee on this one. |
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| Mc Esse | Jun 14 2009, 03:40 AM Post #4 |
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The problem with Brian's argument is the reason why they make weight divisions in combat sport. Bruce Lee is oceans ahead of Mike Tyson in terms of pound for pound fighting skill, technique, respect, balance and talent. Edited by Mc Esse, Jun 14 2009, 03:43 AM.
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| * -Zero- | Jun 14 2009, 03:45 AM Post #5 |
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Indeed, and usually with martial arts you use your head more than you do in boxing (actually boxing gives you brain damage) so the question would be would Tyson even be able to land one punch on Bruce Lee to at least try and get some damage in. Yeah Tyson might be fast but so is Bruce Lee, meanwhile Bruce Lee has more advantage in terms of knowledge in self defense and many tactics. Unless of course Tyson tries to bite his ear off |
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| Mc Esse | Jun 14 2009, 03:50 AM Post #6 |
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Don't underestimate boxing. Many boxers turn out to be even greater street fighters, many forms of boxing are incorporated into the mixed martial arts, and are succsesful. Boxing is in it's own right a martial art, for that matter it is one of the oldest martial arts. |
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| * -Zero- | Jun 14 2009, 03:54 AM Post #7 |
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I still don't think boxing is as powerful as all the martial arts that Bruce Lee knew put together. The guy knew how to battle he'd study the opponent and depending on how the opponent fought he would change his fighting style. |
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Jun 14 2009, 05:55 AM Post #8 |
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Uh, apparently you missed that "lb for lb" speed he showed. What a biased, opinionated statement. "don't be fooled by Bruce Lee's strength." His strength isn't even relevant. Giving up 70 lbs of weight in a fight? You're whack out of your mind if you think strength could matter for him at a 70 lb weight disadvantage to a raw killer like Mike Tyson. |
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| Mc Esse | Jun 14 2009, 02:32 PM Post #9 |
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That's nothing special my main man. Tyson is, to an extent over hyped. He dominated an era some refer to as "The Tin Generation of boxing" If you thought the heavy weight division was piss poor in 2008, check out the 1980's Edited by Mc Esse, Jun 14 2009, 02:48 PM.
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| Rockman | Jun 14 2009, 02:39 PM Post #10 |
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Let's not get overly pushy here. This discussion is like the ninja's vs. pirates discussion. It has no bounds. Please keep it clean ok? |
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| Trickster | Jun 14 2009, 03:35 PM Post #11 |
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There really is no way of know how it could end. However both of them are experts at there own games. Tyson Would probibly dominate up close blow for blow, but would be weaker in attacks when it comes to dodging. Because his way of doing that is to duck and swing, duck and swing, and in this fight, that may not help as much since lee isn't a fighter. Now for lee. His strength is in evading attacks and landing powerful and stunning blows at the right times. But up close he would be at a disadvantage a little more, because martial arts is more of the other, attacking at the right time. So both of them have there advantages, and there flaws. Tyson is great at charging in and using his fists and speed to attack, when lee uses his speed to evade, and then attacks when there is an opening. He can also attack blow for blow, but it would be less affective. So, either one could take the fight, or lose it. It really depends on how each of them defend, and attack. |
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| BattleMetal | Jun 14 2009, 05:17 PM Post #12 |
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Both are pros, top of their game, both come from tough fighting backgrounds from young ages. Tyson is much bigger and moves incredibly fast and punches to kill, Lee is incredibly fast and has loads of power and snap and can move well and has precise dangerous attacks with hands and feet. If Bruce Lee just stood their and allowed Tyson to punch him then yeah he would go down (or very far way) from the punch but hes not going to so easy, he will move or time a well placed attack. Same thing Tyson wont just go charging in, their is more to what he does than simply coming forward to take your head off or smash your ribs in, he has a strategy. Tyson is a boxer is trained to deal with tall, upright bigger boxers, his style is designed to avoid powerful long straight punches of the usually taller man and land vicous hooks and uppercuts. Bruce Lees style is something which might perplex the mind of Tyson because it is something different and new and might put him off, giving Lee the time act, a second is all it takes to win a fight (im not saying Lee would knock Tyson out in the first second of the fight. I mean 1 second to make a mistake over a course of time). When fighters dont know how to deal with things (why they are missing and being hit) they either go wild (hit and hope) or they do very little (go on defensive) because they are still trying to figure out why they are losing. For Lee it would be Tysons killer instinct and speed and power but he would be all too aware of a boxers strengths. In saying that Tysons style is less of a boxer and more of a clinical slugger hooker style. Lee would likely dance away from Tyson and use his powerful kicks to bring the bigger man down, however if Tyson can avoid or take these and get in close, Lee might be able to defend and attack using his arms (cant remember what its called but it was a style originally invented by a woman to fight against bigger stronger men, that hand over hand thing that Lee uses). Boxers are intelliegent people, not like Einstein or chemistry/physics scientists but in the sense that they can process lots of information very quickly and know how to deal with it in a second, same as footballers. A punch comes your way, your brain goes through many different options, you select one and use it with others options to fall back on on to move onto all in a second. Like a tree with branches that lead off into multiple directions. If Tyson lands anything Lee is finished however as much as i dont like saying it i think Lee could beat Tyson. Might take a couple of blows till Tyson fell though. Both are confident fighters, Tyson can get very emotional though. Im thinking of Ricky Hatton versus Pac-man (manny pacqioua). Hattons face was one of shock and confusion as he fought the smaller lighting fast man with the precision punching. Hatton couldnt impose his will. Pac-Man had studied Hatton down to a T. Precision powerful punches landing on target finishing his bigger, stronger opponent. Although Tysons fight with Lee would have to be done so that neither has ever seen their opponent in action and knows nothing about them to get the most accurate result. In Hattons case his opponent studied him very closely, learning his every weakness and strength through videos. I voted for no one cause their is too many strengths and weaknesses of either man. Edited by BattleMetal, Jun 14 2009, 09:27 PM.
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Jun 14 2009, 09:35 PM Post #13 |
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Wow, a Hatton and Pac-man comparison. They're in the same weight class... You guys just aren't getting the point here. Lee's 130 pounds of meat and bone are not even going to PHASE him. That huge rock head of his that's been abused from taking concussion inducing shots all his life isn't even going to be the slightest bit affected by little Bruce. I can't stand Mike Tyson, and I wish it were true that he wouldn't win, but Bruce is in sudden death mode when he steps up with this goliath. One hit connects, it's done. One punch. 1. ...and who knows how many to slow Tyson down. He can take up to 200 (no exaggeration here) punches from a man his own size, so who the hell knows how many it would take Lee. The weight difference Mike Tyson fully utilizes as an animal and killer is why this is not even a comparison. |
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| BattleMetal | Jun 14 2009, 09:42 PM Post #14 |
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Pac-Man and Hatton fought at the same weight yes but my point was that the naturally smaller man used precise power punches to knock out a naturally stronger man, a fighting champion easily in two rounds. I used this fight as a reference because you can see Hatton mentally getting frustrated and bamboozled with the quick, sharp movements of the smaller man, he couldnt ground him or hit him successfully. I understand that Lee is smaller but it doesnt mean that he would get knocked out, just more likely yes. My point is to say that he could land hard accurate shots on areas on Tyson that could still trouble the man. Theirs more areas to target than just the head, no cheating stuff though. Ive seen guys with granite chins get taken out with a blow to the solar plexus by men half their size. Be open to other ideas man. Thats why you put this up right? For people to discuss. Edited by BattleMetal, Jun 14 2009, 09:49 PM.
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| hidan fan | Jun 14 2009, 11:38 PM Post #15 |
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bruce lee would destroy mike tyson. He is way smarter and faster and sharper.knows where all the pressure points on the body are.and remember a kick can cause more damage then a punch.also brucelee is a true genius.a leg sweep or low kick would take away tyson's punching power easily.then stomp on his chest or neck tyson would die.Bruce lee easily wins. |
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