Super Buu VS Janemba

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Super Buu VS Janemba; lb for lb
Topic Started: Jun 13 2009, 09:16 PM (467 Views)
Psyam	Jun 22 2009, 02:55 PM Post #31
Posts: 1,199 Group: Super Moderator Member #3,439 Joined: May 18, 2008 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Firefox	Yeah, his regeneration was never shown to its full potential so it's guesswork. Buu has hard facts backing up his abilitys, while you don't even know if Janemba's regeneration went that far. Quote: I would say that it is due to the fact that Akira kept making the villains even more and more powerful as the story went on. I really doubt he'd let a weaker enemy have a power that a stronger one doesn't, if he stuck to his routine. Or at least, he wouldn't weaken how well the ability can be used by a previous villain. Janemba wasn't made by Akira Toriyama to my knowledge, though. Besides, Piccolo was an earlier villain who had regeneration, but Frieza didn't, so the abilitys don't always carry forward. Quote: Apparently you didn't see how bad he started dominating Goku when he formed a sword with his abilities. -OR, how quickly he defeated Vegeta by dragging him through his created mass of objects. (the objects almost appeared to drain his energy, even Point was, other people have been shown to have similar abilitys. Buu seems to be able to turn anything into anything else, such as people into any type of sweet he wants, or even clay to build a house, or a simple rock into a toilet. I'm pretty sure Buu could make a sword if he wanted to. It was Janemba's stretchable hand that owned Vegeta anyway, Kid Buu did the exact same thing to him. Much as I like Janemba, I just think Buu has the advantage. Janemba has his unique insulting weakness, Buu has either equal or better regeneration, Buu probably has a little power advantage, Buu has absorbtion, the ability to morph his opponents and god knows what else. Buu could self destruct on Janemba, he could pull a bit of himself off and make it attack Janemba, he could shove himself down Janemba's throat. The possibility's are nearly endless with the body he has. All Janemba has is a slighter weaker power, the ability to warp and his transfiguration of the environment. (which Buu can do anyway.)



*Brian*	Jun 22 2009, 11:34 PM Post #32
Homosexual Ogre Posts: 939 Group: Troll Member #4,185 Joined: May 9, 2009 What Browser do you use? Firefox	Psyam Jun 22 2009, 02:55 PM Buu has hard facts backing up his abilitys, while you don't even know if Janemba's regeneration went that far. We also don't know if Janemba's surpassed it, even. For Buu to manipulate his opponents' matter, he has to hit them with the ray first of all. This could be used against him. Janemba has a more free, versatile way of manipulating reality. I still don't understand why you think Super Buu would have a slight power advantage, either. It's hardly evident to assume that in any way, really. It was a movie. They HAD to hit him at least once, right? Even Vegeta had a slight period to shine against Kid Buu.
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Psyam	Jun 23 2009, 01:04 AM Post #33
Posts: 1,199 Group: Super Moderator Member #3,439 Joined: May 18, 2008 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Firefox	Quote: We also don't know if Janemba's surpassed it, even. No, but how likely is it that something has better regeneration then Buu? I'm just judging the chance of it here. It's more likely Janemba's regeneration is worse then Buu's then better. Quote: For Buu to manipulate his opponents' matter, he has to hit them with the ray first of all. This could be used against him. Janemba has a more free, versatile way of manipulating reality. Janemba never showed that he could alter other people like Buu could, though. He only showed his ability to change the environment. Buu holds all the cards here. How is Janemba supposed to destroy Buu, short of firing his ray back at him? Buu could land a heavy blow on Janemba, stunning him, then absorb him before he can recover. If Janemba lands a heavy blow on Buu, stunning him, Buu will just recover because Janemba can't finish the job. Buu has ability's that can end the fight if he gets the chance and takes Janemba by surprise (which he inevitably would in a long battle where they both kept regenerating). Janemba doesn't have anything to end it. Quote: I still don't understand why you think Super Buu would have a slight power advantage, either. It's hardly evident to assume that in any way, really. It was a movie. They HAD to hit him at least once, right? Even Vegeta had a slight period to shine against Kid Buu. Meh, movie or not, it still happened. SSJ2 Goku was able to fight with Kid Buu untill Buu started using more power. Vegeta caught Buu off guard with the sheer anger of his attack. Goku said he and Vegeta couldn't take Super Buu, Goku said it in such a way that it sounded like they had no chance whatsoever. Goku got quite a few good hits on Janemba (and was at a disadvantage because of his surprise at the teleporting and later the sword that he had to run from), and Vegeta got one, making me believe Buu is slightly stronger. But I've been over that. Although I'm just repeating myself now, if Janemba uses teleporting to catch Buu off guard, or makes a sword and chops Buu up, Buu will just recover/regenerate. If Buu catches Janemba off guard and absorbs/transfigures/self destructs on Janemba, it's over for him. Edited by Psyam, Jun 23 2009, 01:05 AM.



*Brian*	Jun 23 2009, 03:28 AM Post #34
Homosexual Ogre Posts: 939 Group: Troll Member #4,185 Joined: May 9, 2009 What Browser do you use? Firefox	Psyam Jun 23 2009, 01:04 AM If Janemba lands a heavy blow on Buu, stunning him, Buu will just recover because Janemba can't finish the job. Although I'm just repeating myself now, if Janemba uses teleporting to catch Buu off guard, or makes a sword and chops Buu up, Buu will just recover/regenerate. Not if Janemba uses an Energy Rain Shower technique to destroy the individual pieces.
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Emperor Cold	Jun 24 2009, 03:40 AM Post #35
Makaioshin Posts: 255 Group: Member Member #3,724 Joined: October 5, 2008 Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z/GT (yes I like GT...imagine that!) Detective Conan, FMA (original), Yu Yu Hakusho Favourite Manga Anything by Akira Toriyama	Brian Jun 23 2009, 03:28 AM Psyam Jun 23 2009, 01:04 AM If Janemba lands a heavy blow on Buu, stunning him, Buu will just recover because Janemba can't finish the job. Although I'm just repeating myself now, if Janemba uses teleporting to catch Buu off guard, or makes a sword and chops Buu up, Buu will just recover/regenerate. Not if Janemba uses an Energy Rain Shower technique to destroy the individual pieces. I don't think destroying the individual pieces would work. Piccolo and Gotenks tried that and he just regenerated from the smoke.



*Brian*	Jun 24 2009, 06:30 AM Post #36
Homosexual Ogre Posts: 939 Group: Troll Member #4,185 Joined: May 9, 2009 What Browser do you use? Firefox	Here's what's going to happen. Buu is going to try to turn Janemba into chocolate. The beam goes through a portal created by Janemba, and the chocolate beam ends up hitting Buu. Janemba then proceeds to eat Buu's yummy chocolate azz. After he eats him, he laughs like a chain smoker.
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Psyam	Jun 24 2009, 03:03 PM Post #37
Posts: 1,199 Group: Super Moderator Member #3,439 Joined: May 18, 2008 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Firefox	No, here's what's going to happen. After a long fight Janemba is going to seemingly destroy Buu, then Buu regenerates behind him (like he did to Vegeta) and absorbs Janemba before he knows what the hells going on. After he is absorbed, Janemba-Buu laughs like a chain smoker. To be serious, there's no point theorycrafting. You could say anything could happen. What you said is possible, but Super Buu only used his candy ray against Vegito as a last resort. Buu would find out about Janemba's portal things much earlier then that, and probably wouldn't use it unless Janemba was caught off guard or unable to fight back. I still think Buu is going to win most of the time. Your scenario could be the 3/10 that Janemba does win, seeing as I gave Buu a 7/10 chance. P.S. I don't think Janemba would eat him, he would probably just stomp on him, which might even let Buu regenerate.



*Brian*	Jun 24 2009, 11:49 PM Post #38
Homosexual Ogre Posts: 939 Group: Troll Member #4,185 Joined: May 9, 2009 What Browser do you use? Firefox	"After he is absorbed, Janemba-Buu laughs like a chain smoker." Just because he absorbs Janemba, it doesn't mean he gets his chain smoker-like laugh. lol Janembuu VS Vegito. Cool.
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Nothing	Jun 28 2009, 02:14 AM Post #39
Posts: 153 Group: Member Member #4,026 Joined: March 13, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox	Ummmmmm....very hard to decide...I think I'll go for Janemba, although Super Buu might win too...I realy don't know...



Super Goku	Jul 6 2009, 01:19 AM Post #40
Vizard Jinchurikii Posts: 674 Group: Member Member #4,266 Joined: June 26, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Naruto	Normal super buu vs. final form janemba? I think Fat buu and Janemba are about the same strength because SSJ3 Goku had the same amount of trouble fighting them, so Super buu would probably be stronger. Buu has his absorption to his advantage, he likes to trick people with that one. Janemba has his sword. And that sword really doesnt do much for him against a regenerating entity. SO Buu wins Edited by Super Goku, Jul 6 2009, 01:26 AM.
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*Brian*	Jul 6 2009, 02:03 AM Post #41
Homosexual Ogre Posts: 939 Group: Troll Member #4,185 Joined: May 9, 2009 What Browser do you use? Firefox	super goku Jul 6 2009, 01:19 AM Normal super buu vs. final form janemba? I think Fat buu and Janemba are about the same strength because SSJ3 Goku had the same amount of trouble fighting them, so Super buu would probably be stronger. Buu has his absorption to his advantage, he likes to trick people with that one. Janemba has his sword. And that sword really doesnt do much for him against a regenerating entity. SO Buu wins Clearly, you just decided to give your opinion, regardless of the things stated in this thread. We have all established that SSJ3 Goku is stronger than Fat Buu.
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Tenshinku	Jul 6 2009, 02:13 AM Post #42
Posts: 54 Group: Member Member #4,278 Joined: June 30, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragonball Favourite Manga Dragonball	Goku himself stated that him and vegeta would not be able to take on super buu who is on par with Super Saiyan 03 gotenks. They coudn't even take out janemba, meaning that buu and janemba are close in power since both goku and can't take them without fusing. I say super buu wins in the end, they will have a good battle but eventualy he will fool him and absorb him.
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Nothing	Jul 15 2009, 03:10 PM Post #43
Posts: 153 Group: Member Member #4,026 Joined: March 13, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox	Super Buu has regeneration on his side while Janemba has that space shift technique. Janemba also has his sword, but that isn't going to do him any good since Super Buu can easily regenerate. In terms of power it is really hard to decide who is stronger, but considering that both Goku ssj3 and Vegeta ssj2 (or which ever level he was at) were TRASHED really fast, and considering that Goku ssj3 did manage to hold on against Super Buu (with Piccolo absorbed if I may add)for some time while Gohan was searching for the magical earring, I'll have to say Janemba. Super Buu has bigger array of techniques such as Candy beam and Absorb technique, but although Janemba looks like a brainless beast, I don't think that he would fall for Buu's absorb and especially not for Candy beam. So in the end I'll say Janemba, but the fight will be tough for sure, and who knows what or who will end up being destroyed.



Psyam	Jul 15 2009, 03:15 PM Post #44
Posts: 1,199 Group: Super Moderator Member #3,439 Joined: May 18, 2008 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Firefox	Quote: ...and considering that Goku ssj3 did manage to hold on against Super Buu (with Piccolo absorbed if I may add)for some time while Gohan was searching for the magical earring... Gotenks Buu attacking Goku (I assume that's what you mean) was filler. Buu never reached Goku. As he charged, his fusion ran out. Then they just talked before Buu absorbed Gohan. To state that Goku could possibly hold his own against Gotenks Buu (who's way above Super Buu, who Goku said he and Vegeta were no match for) is ridiculous. Therefore it can be ruled out as an animé mistake. At best, Janemba is equal to Super Buu. At best. He could be weaker. But we've been through this. Either could win, but Buu would be the most likely victor because of his ability's.



Nothing	Jul 15 2009, 03:20 PM Post #45
Posts: 153 Group: Member Member #4,026 Joined: March 13, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox	Psyam Jul 15 2009, 03:15 PM Quote: ...and considering that Goku ssj3 did manage to hold on against Super Buu (with Piccolo absorbed if I may add)for some time while Gohan was searching for the magical earring... Gotenks Buu attacking Goku (I assume that's what you mean) was filler. Buu never reached Goku. As he charged, his fusion ran out. Then they just talked before Buu absorbed Gohan. To state that Goku could possibly hold his own against Gotenks Buu (who's way above Super Buu, who Goku said he and Vegeta were no match for) is ridiculous. Therefore it can be ruled out as an animé mistake. At best, Janemba is equal to Super Buu. At best. He could be weaker. But we've been through this. Either could win, but Buu would be the most likely victor because of his ability's. I agree it could also be Super Buu since he has bigger array of techniques, but again I'll say Janemba, because i like him more As for that Goku ssj3 vs Gotenks Buu thing, you are right I guess i got carried away, man i need to watch DBZ again, I forgot a lot of things, it's been quite some time since i last watched it.



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