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| Super Buu VS Janemba; lb for lb | |
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| Topic Started: Jun 13 2009, 09:16 PM (466 Views) | |
| Brian | Jun 13 2009, 09:16 PM Post #1 |
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Okay, so this is getting pretty hard to determine. Well, we have two things at hand here to help us find out who the victor of these two would be. 1. They are stronger than Goku 2. They are obliterated by fusion Psyam? |
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| Mc Esse | Jun 13 2009, 11:31 PM Post #2 |
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It depends which Super Buu you're talking about. Super Buu, after absorbing Ultimate Gohan, Trunks/Goten and Picolo would be a goliath compared to Janemba's final form.
Janemba is oblietrated by Gogeta, while Vegito danced around Super Buu. Vegito is leagues ahead of Gogeta in terms of power. If you want to know why it's because when Vegita and Goku fused in the movie, they did the Fusion Dance, while when they fused in the anime they clipped earrings onto their ears. The Fusion earrings will fuse two characters, and it will make the Fused character more powerful than if those two same characters would have fused by dance. So to answer your question, Vegito>Gogeta. Super Buu was obliterated by Vegito, because Vegito was that powerful. Gogeta is leagues under Vegito, and would not stand up to Buu. Therefore Super Buu would have a slight advantage over Janemba in a fight. |
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| Brian | Jun 14 2009, 02:41 AM Post #3 |
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I'm talking about Super Buu prior to absorption. |
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| Emperor Cold | Jun 15 2009, 01:46 AM Post #4 |
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I think Janemba is a little stronger, but I don't think he would be able to destroy Buu thoroughly enough that he couldn't regenerate. I don't think Janemba can regenerate, so eventually Buu would get a lucky shot in that would damage and weaken Janemba. Also, if Buu got p.o.'ed enough, he might start screaming "I HATE YOUUU!!" or something and that would make Janemba shatter just like when Pikkon screamed at him. |
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| Brian | Jun 15 2009, 03:52 AM Post #5 |
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Janemba can regenerate as well. He did, right after Pikkon damaged him. |
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| Psyam | Jun 15 2009, 08:02 PM Post #6 |
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I'm not going to deep into this, most of the main points have been covered anyway. Janemba can regenerate, as shown when he regenerated Pikkon's attack, like Brian said. However, he can't regenerate to the level Buu can. At least, I'd guess not. Emperor Cold had a good point that at some point, if Buu was losing, he'd probably scream insults which could cost Janemba the fight if it gave Buu time to get some good hits in. Anyway, Goku and Vegeta were both able to put up a fight against Super Janemba to some degree. The mere fact that they tried to win by themselves is something. Goku stated without a doubt inside Buu's body that if he and Vegeta left, Super Buu would kill them. The fact that Goku was willing to try his luck against Janemba (which probably meant he thought he had at least a slim chance of winning), while he stated that they wouldn't have a chance against Buu, leads me to believe Super Buu is slightly stronger. With that edge, plus his superior regeneration and Janemba's insult weakness, my conclusion is that after a good battle Buu would take the win. Oh, and Brian, I'd prefer if you didn't specifically ask for my opinion. I'll of course give my input, but many other people are perfectly capable of answering these topics as well as me, if not better. Edited by Psyam, Jun 15 2009, 08:08 PM.
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| Brian | Jun 15 2009, 08:19 PM Post #7 |
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I appreciate your modesty, then. It was really just a humble way of joking around with you in regard to your reputation. "Goku stated without a doubt inside Buu's body that if he and Vegeta left, Super Buu would kill them." I'm talking about pre-Gotenks/Gohan absorption Super Buu. Obviously Gohan Absorbed would dominate this. |
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| Psyam | Jun 15 2009, 08:37 PM Post #8 |
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Aye, they were talking about normal Super Buu. Goku said that after they pulled their friends out of Buu. Vegeta was about to blast his way out of Buu's body when Goku said he was still too strong for them. |
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| Atomico | Jun 15 2009, 11:35 PM Post #9 |
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I think Buu would win. He also has another advantage, he is really smaller than Janemba, and also Janemba isn't that smart, so Buu would have good evasion if they were to fight. But then Janemba is very big and could most likely hold out for a long time against Buu. Although if it was Kid Buu, then Janemba would be obliderated in my opinion anyway. Well anyway, it would look like Buu would win, because even Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks couldn't beat him no matter what, Buu could just fool around a bit still. Buu would also be able to eat up Janemba because his skin can open out to any size, and is very powerful, like when Buu ate Vegito and Vegito was very powerful, but still couldn't break out of it. But if Buu tryed that against Janemba, Janemba's size would be in the way, as it would be hard to squash him up, and also having Janemba inside Buu, even though he would be shrunk, he would still be big enough to cause pain for Buu. But I think Buu would win that one, he could most probably evade all of Janemba's attacks and he would be much faster, Buu is also strong enough to cause major damage to Janemba. |
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| Brian | Jun 16 2009, 03:29 AM Post #10 |
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^ Super Buu is stronger than Kid Buu. Wait, Psyam, I thought Goku and Vegetta were absorbed as Vegitto while Buu was in his Gohan Absorbed form? |
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| SSJVegito | Jun 16 2009, 04:45 AM Post #11 |
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Brian, they WERE absorbed into Buuhan but after they removed everyone but Mr. Buu he was back down to normal Super Buu. And even then Goku said him and Vegeta didn't stand a chance. |
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| Brian | Jun 16 2009, 05:26 AM Post #12 |
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They didn't stand much of a chance against Janemba either though. Even at SSJ3, Goku wasn't enough (especially with his inability to hold the form's power under control for long), and Vegeta was toast in seconds. Janemba just didn't kill them. He was a goof ball. |
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| SSJVegito | Jun 16 2009, 08:34 AM Post #13 |
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Yeah I was just answering your question to Psyam. But Goku at least thought they stood a chance without fusion. They exhausted all their avenues before resorting to fusion whereas against Buu, Goku wouldn't even try without fusion. |
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| Brian | Jun 16 2009, 09:17 AM Post #14 |
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That could be just as good as a coincidence though. He was surprised when he found out that he wasn't good enough to defeat Janemba, remember? He didn't even have an idea of how powerful Janemba was, whereas he knew of the things Super Buu was infamous for. He also could have feared Buu's absorption technique. Vegeta was nowhere in sight during the battle with Janemba for fusion anyway, until after Goku had fought him. What was Goku supposed to do? Just flee, hopelessly? |
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| Psyam | Jun 16 2009, 05:50 PM Post #15 |
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You have a point that he couldn't of just ran away, but still. Even if Super Janemba was at Super Buu's level, which I think he's under, Buu's regeneration would let him win in the end. He can reform from microscopic peices/smoke, as seen when he reformed after Piccolo and Gotenks destroyed all of his body parts. Buu seems to be only defeatable by a blast that is much stronger then himself or is large enough to destroy every single bit of him (like the Spirit Bomb), so Janemba would have to be stronger then Buu to defeat him. I don't see that being possible, otherwise Janemba would of beat down Goku far faster then he did. Even Vegeta was able to land a good hit on Janemba. Plus, if Buu found out Janemba's weakness, as he probably would if he was losing and started screaming at him, I'm pretty sure he'd exploit it. |
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