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Who is the Most Powerful person in the Dragonball Z Universe?; *No Movies
Topic Started: Jun 6 2009, 10:28 PM (157,438 Views)
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Wut???

If the possibilty wasnt swallowed up. If gohan had of put on the Petora ear ring and fused with goku, Then the result character would of been the strongest. But that didnt happen so lets put that aside.

I think that if Buu didnt envelop gohan i strongly believe that gohan could of finished him off, It was extremly clear that could of been the result.

Even then i also believe that Goku is capable of being the strongest, for the sheer fact he never ever gives up. That for all we know could of pushed him beyond SSJ3. Who knows. You just need to keep these in mind.


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I THINK THAT VEGETA IS THE STRONGEST ONE AS SAYIAN HE ONLY TRAINED HIMSELF NO ONE HELPED HIM AT ALL FOR EXAMPLE GOKU GOT HELP FROM KING KAI AND HIS FRIENDS NOT TO METION THE ELDER KAI AND SUPREME KAI TOO THEY ALL ASSISTED GOKU TO BECOME STRONGER IF VEGETA HAD HIS TAIL HE WOULD BE STRONGER AS HE IS A PUREBLOOD SAIYAN HE IS AN ELITE NOT LIKE GOKU{I am not saying goku is weak this is just an opinion of mine}HE CREATED HIS OWN TECHNIQUES AND TRHOUGHT THE SERIES HE IMPROVED THEM BY HIMSELF
I THINK HE WAS UNABLE 2 UNLEASH HIS ELITE POWER CAUSE HE SIMPLY WAS 2 PROUD 2 USE IT TO HELP KAKKAROTT AFTER ALL HIS PERSONALITY MATCHES MY OWN AND I CAN TELL HE IS WAY STRONGER THAN ANY ONE ELSE HIS ONLY MINUS IS HIS HOTHEADED MIND AND THE TOTAL OBESSESSION OF KILLING GOKU THAT IS WHY HE SEEMED WEAKER
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tone that down, dude. number one, take off the caps, number two, dont dye your text red.

isnt Gotenks boo the strongest, being stronger than ultimate Gohan? gotenks boo destroyed gohan...
i gues he counts as a fused character though

I wanna say Goku has the most POTENTIAL, but gohan has surpassed goku a couple times...so potentially, gohan is the best.
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Did I miss something? Why is Gogeta never mentioned?
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Base form character's(including saiyan transformations): Ultimate Gohan then Goku
Fused character's: Vegerot (AKA Vegito) then Buu-han

Gogeta only appeared in the fusion re-born movie and then Gt, maybe this is why...but in Gt he would be the strongest cause he is a SS4 fusion.
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Power discussions are always difficult when it comes to this series, because things change so much depending on the time period. But, excluding movies, I'd say Vegetto reached the highest power of all by the end of the series. If he hadn't de-fused by going inside of Buu, I think Vegetto would have dispatched Kid Buu with little difficulty...they'd probably be a lot more evenly matched (whereas Super Buu didn't even have a chance against him), but Vegetto would be the stronger. Kid Buu was really only a challenge at that stage because the fusion broke, and Gokou and Vegeta were not strong enough to handle him solo, even with Gokou as a Super Saiyajin 3.

Honestly though, if Freeza hadn't killed Kuririn and unleashed the Super Saiyajin to begin with, I don't think any of the characters would have reached the stage...and so I think Freeza was by far the most powerful character in terms of the one who left everyone else truly hopeless. Gokou would have had the potential to become Super Saiyajin no matter what, but without that catalyst I don't think he would have ever reached it...rage was never his strong suit. It was by luck/chance that Freeza killed Kuririn before Gokou's eyes like that, and I feel like if not for a series of lucky coincidences that spun the fight in favor of the heroes, they would have never beaten Freeza. Cell and Buu just never had that same 'oomph' if you ask me, and despite how strong they got it feels like the heroes always had a secret ace up their sleeves that made those victories possible in the end. Freeza would have just been impossible if luck weren't on their side...so in that sense, you could also consider Freeza as 'the most powerful character', since none of the other characters would have reached the heights they did if not for that battle.
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Jul 23 2009, 04:13 PM
If the possibilty wasnt swallowed up. If gohan had of put on the Petora ear ring and fused with goku, Then the result character would of been the strongest.
You don't know that. It's been stated that their alternative personalities and differences actually fused to turn them into an even more potent fighter.

Vegito has my vote for being the strongest character, and not only because of the display shown throughout the manga and anime. If Gotenks could reach SSJ3 so easily, there's no telling what possible (and absolutely outrageous) levels of strength Vegito could have reached.
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Mar 13 2010, 01:52 AM
Power discussions are always difficult when it comes to this series, because things change so much depending on the time period. But, excluding movies, I'd say Vegetto reached the highest power of all by the end of the series. If he hadn't de-fused by going inside of Buu, I think Vegetto would have dispatched Kid Buu with little difficulty...they'd probably be a lot more evenly matched (whereas Super Buu didn't even have a chance against him), but Vegetto would be the stronger. Kid Buu was really only a challenge at that stage because the fusion broke, and Gokou and Vegeta were not strong enough to handle him solo, even with Gokou as a Super Saiyajin 3.

Honestly though, if Freeza hadn't killed Kuririn and unleashed the Super Saiyajin to begin with, I don't think any of the characters would have reached the stage...and so I think Freeza was by far the most powerful character in terms of the one who left everyone else truly hopeless. Gokou would have had the potential to become Super Saiyajin no matter what, but without that catalyst I don't think he would have ever reached it...rage was never his strong suit. It was by luck/chance that Freeza killed Kuririn before Gokou's eyes like that, and I feel like if not for a series of lucky coincidences that spun the fight in favor of the heroes, they would have never beaten Freeza. Cell and Buu just never had that same 'oomph' if you ask me, and despite how strong they got it feels like the heroes always had a secret ace up their sleeves that made those victories possible in the end. Freeza would have just been impossible if luck weren't on their side...so in that sense, you could also consider Freeza as 'the most powerful character', since none of the other characters would have reached the heights they did if not for that battle.
Thats a pretty interesting point but I think given the nature of Frieza his power wouldnt really increase because he had such a comfortable position as "Most powerful in the universe".

People like him who possess power tend to sit on it because of their arrogance. In his conquering days he may have had that drive to achieve more levels of strength, but once he'd become reknown as the strongest in the universe, it doesnt seem that he had much reason to achieve anything else.

Whereas Goku is only satisfied in life when he can achieve new levels of skill while also always pushing his strength because he has to for other people and not just for himself. By their natures I think Goku will always be the strongest character in Dragonball Z because of this.
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for me the most powerful character in dragonball z is son goku because all of his enemies was defeated by him..Goku has achieved many abilities aside from his extreme strength and durability, he also possesses super speed reflexes and can perform energy blasts which are formed from chi.









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Sep 16 2009, 09:23 AM
I THINK THAT VEGETA IS THE STRONGEST ONE AS SAYIAN HE ONLY TRAINED HIMSELF NO ONE HELPED HIM AT ALL FOR EXAMPLE GOKU GOT HELP FROM KING KAI AND HIS FRIENDS NOT TO METION THE ELDER KAI AND SUPREME KAI TOO THEY ALL ASSISTED GOKU TO BECOME STRONGER IF VEGETA HAD HIS TAIL HE WOULD BE STRONGER AS HE IS A PUREBLOOD SAIYAN HE IS AN ELITE NOT LIKE GOKU{I am not saying goku is weak this is just an opinion of mine}HE CREATED HIS OWN TECHNIQUES AND TRHOUGHT THE SERIES HE IMPROVED THEM BY HIMSELF
I THINK HE WAS UNABLE 2 UNLEASH HIS ELITE POWER CAUSE HE SIMPLY WAS 2 PROUD 2 USE IT TO HELP KAKKAROTT AFTER ALL HIS PERSONALITY MATCHES MY OWN AND I CAN TELL HE IS WAY STRONGER THAN ANY ONE ELSE HIS ONLY MINUS IS HIS HOTHEADED MIND AND THE TOTAL OBESSESSION OF KILLING GOKU THAT IS WHY HE SEEMED WEAKER
We should get a "RAINBOW" color option for stuff like this, ya know, to make it more readable, and interesting lol. Oh and a "MIXED" Font too, for maximum crazyiness

anyway, I think Mystic Gohan was the strongest.
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I think Vegito was the strongest. Gohan couldn't touch Buu but Vegito toyed with him. But in terms of non fusions Gohan is definately the most powerful. I think he would easily defeat ssj3 Goku.


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Is it not possible that while some characters can dish out more damage than others, they may not be able to withstand as much? For example Kid Buu could possibly inflict more damage on someone than Mystic/Ultimate Gohan or Vegito, but is not able to survive from attacks that those two may be able to? Don't think that point has been made, nor that it is a valid point, but it could be a possibility.

Was it not stated about Fat Buu (maybe by Supreme Kai or maybe Piccolo, can't remember) that it was like he was tapping into an unlimited well of energy? I like that idea, that he was using power that wasn't his - similar to the Spirit Bomb - and once all good had been released from him and he had reverted back to Kid Buu he was better equipped to tap into that power.

Having said that I do think Vegito is the strongest DBZ character, but for the sake of storyline it seems strange to have Gohan as the strongest character when he didn't partake in the final battle.
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re-evaluating, I actually think that the Grand Supreme Kai was probably the strongest, but for some reason allowed himself to be consumed by buu.
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the few moments we see of him fighting Buu his powers rival that of Vegitto.
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Apr 17 2010, 12:04 PM
re-evaluating, I actually think that the Grand Supreme Kai was probably the strongest, but for some reason allowed himself to be consumed by buu.
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the few moments we see of him fighting Buu his powers rival that of Vegitto.
...you're basing your opinion on Anime filler?

The Lord of Lords never fought in the Manga, all we know is he was pure hearted and weakened Buu. Even based on the filler he's nothing compared to Vegito.
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SS 4 Gogeta, Id say Cell after he absorbed Goku but since he got out....yea, SS 4 Gogeta
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