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Who is the Most Powerful person in the Dragonball Z Universe?; *No Movies
Topic Started: Jun 6 2009, 10:28 PM (157,439 Views)
RyDub
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Like most everyone else here I have to say Mystic Gohan
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If we are only including Z then I'd say Mystic Gohan.
If we are counting Z and it's related movies then I'd say Super Gogeta.
If we are counting DB/Z/GT then I'd say SSJ4 Gogeta.
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Jul 15 2009, 08:26 PM
If we are only including Z then I'd say Mystic Gohan.
If we are counting Z and it's related movies then I'd say Super Gogeta.
If we are counting DB/Z/GT then I'd say SSJ4 Gogeta.
Actually Vegito's stronger... :p
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this is true. Since Vegeto had the potential to go SSJ3...he would be stronger than Mystic Gohan

but not SSJ4 Gogeta.
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Super Vegito is stronger then Gohan full stop. He doesn't need to go SSJ3. He's miles above Gohan.

The topic 3 unfused fighters in Z are:

1. Ultimate Gohan
2. SSJ3 Goku (at Full Power, which he couldn't reach)
3. Kid Buu

Super Buu is technically a fusion, as he absorbed the Kai's. So if Gotenks/Gohan Buu don't count, then neither should normal Super Buu, really.
Edited by Psyam, Jul 16 2009, 05:01 PM.
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Jul 16 2009, 03:18 PM
this is true. Since Vegeto had the potential to go SSJ3...he would be stronger than Mystic Gohan

but not SSJ4 Gogeta.
Don't mean to be an *ss but how do you know he could have gone SSJ3?
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Wut???

Ultimate Gohan, Because up until Buu merged and stole his bod Gohan was slaughtering him. But then again, Vegetto was owning when Buu had fused with all the other Z fighters.


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I laughed at most of the things being dished out.

Theres only one answer, and thats Kid Boo.

I will explain if you really need your DB knowledge updated.
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Theres only one answer, and thats Kid Boo.

i'm surprised you said that, please explain. i know kid buu is strong but there's no way he's stronger than Vegito or even Mystic Gohan!
Edited by Mc Esse, Jul 17 2009, 01:49 PM.
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Alrighty then, i think it's fair to say that the Top 5 contenders are probably

Kid Boo
Vegito
Gohan
Goku and
Super Buu

Now lets have a look at Super Boo, he is pretty much still equal to Fat Boo, except replace the fun of killing with a more crazy psychotic version. I mean we all saw Fat Boo, let out Pure Evil Boo, and we saw Fat Boo just get eaten by him, pretty much the same power no difference except a more different personality which enhanced him in ways, and no Pure Evil Boo wasn't stronger then Fat Boo, Fat Boo was just plain old intimidated with a side of him he is not used to.

And now because of that he's more stronger and a better fighter because of his appearance and his new style.

That's Super Boo scrapped off, now lets look at Ultimate Gohan, hell he was probably second strongest, but he fell to Boo Absorbed, he was a bit outmatched and fell to alot of his tricks, hell he got Boo worrying.

Ok Vegito is pretty much two people, Goku and Vegeta, and even then
he was too outsmarted by Boo.

Goku, he only beat the person im getting to now because of the help from pretty much everyone in the galaxy.

And now Kid Boo, Kid Boo is the main and the core of all the Boo's, yeah he absorbs people, but that doesn't mean he becomes stronger, he gets their fighting styles, outfits and their personalities, which could slow him down and depending on who he absorbs make him vulnerable. But with all of them gone, came Kid Boo who no one could have beaten indiviually who was a threat to the Kais thousands of years aago, and he only destroyed the entire planet, and pretty much all places in the universe and it took a couple of trillion species to beat him.

Sorry for my very brief explanation as its around 12 at night here in Australia lol..
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Ok Vegito is pretty much two people, Goku and Vegeta, and even then
he was too outsmarted by Boo

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That's Super Boo scrapped off, now lets look at Ultimate Gohan, hell he was probably second strongest, but he fell to Boo Absorbed, he was a bit outmatched and fell to alot of his tricks, hell he got Boo worrying.

Well to be fair, anyone, even the strongest fighters get outsmarted. Just because you've got brawn, doesn't mean you have brains! lol
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I find it strange that some people still think Kid Buu is the strongest, to be honest.

Here are the facts of the matter.

Goku said he and Vegeta were no match together against Super Buu (with no one absorbed!). They would have been killed.

Goku was able to keep up with Kid Buu at SSJ3 by himself, and was stated to of been capable of destroying Kid Buu if he could have reached full power. Unfortunately he couldn't because his living body couldn't handle SSJ3 as well as his other world body could.

If Goku had no chance against Super Buu even with Vegeta helping, but could fight almost evenly with Kid Buu (even with a living body holding him back), how on earth is Kid Buu stronger then Super Buu? Simply put, he's not.
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Now lets have a look at Super Boo, he is pretty much still equal to Fat Boo, except replace the fun of killing with a more crazy psychotic version. I mean we all saw Fat Boo, let out Pure Evil Boo, and we saw Fat Boo just get eaten by him, pretty much the same power no difference except a more different personality which enhanced him in ways...
Super Buu is stronger then Fat Buu. The difference in personality is what makes the difference. Fat Buu is too far influenced by the Kai's, and because of that a lot of his power is held back.

Proof: Goku had no chance against Super Buu, but he later stated he probably could of destroyed Fat Buu. The only logical conclusion is that Super Buu is stronger then Fat Buu.
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...and no Pure Evil Boo wasn't stronger then Fat Boo, Fat Boo was just plain old intimidated with a side of him he is not used to.
Fat Buu wasn't intimidated because after they split he doesn't exist. He becomes Good Buu, who is much weaker then Fat Buu. Evil Buu took the majority of the power when they split, thus Good Buu couldn't even hit him once. Evil Buu is stronger then Good Buu, but not Fat Buu who is their combined form.
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And now Kid Boo, Kid Boo is the main and the core of all the Boo's, yeah he absorbs people, but that doesn't mean he becomes stronger
What? So absorbing Gohan or Gotenks didn't make Buu any stronger? When he absorbs someone, their power is added to his own.
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But with all of them gone, came Kid Boo who no one could have beaten indiviually who was a threat to the Kais thousands of years aago, and he only destroyed the entire planet, and pretty much all places in the universe and it took a couple of trillion species to beat him.
Ultimate Gohan would destroy Kid Buu effortlessly. Not to mention Vegito and Gotenks/Gohan absorbed Super Buu. All it took to beat Kid Buu was the energy of the people on Earth (and the Nameks if I remember right), not trillions of species.
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Ok Vegito is pretty much two people, Goku and Vegeta, and even then
he was too outsmarted by Boo.
...What? Buu never outsmarted Vegito. Vegito was tricking Buu into absorbing him the whole time. It was what he wanted. Vegito was the one who tricked Buu, a fighter who had the combined minds of Piccolo and Gohan. Vegito is probably the smartest fighter in DBZ.

If Kid Buu is the strongest in your book, are you actually saying Kid Buu is stronger then Ultimate Gohan? If so, well, you really need to watch the Buu saga again.
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I laughed at most of the things being dished out.

I will explain if you really need your DB knowledge updated.
Maybe you should update your DB knowledge before you go laughing at other people.

Edit: Bit of a long read, sorry about that.
Edited by Psyam, Jul 17 2009, 04:31 PM.
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Lol sorry but Psyam just pwn'd Damaged, lol.
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No problem Psyam, it was a long post but I read it all, good post, I learned alot from it. :nerd: I completley forgot about the fact that Vegito tricked Buu into absorbing him.
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Jul 16 2009, 03:18 PM
this is true. Since Vegeto had the potential to go SSJ3...he would be stronger than Mystic Gohan

but not SSJ4 Gogeta.
Don't mean to be an *ss but how do you know he could have gone SSJ3?

Well, two children, Goten and Trunks, had only achieved Super Saiyan ONE level. right? Goten and Trunks couldnt go SSJ2 yet. They fused, and suddenly their fusion had given them so much power they SKIPPED SSJ2 and Gotenks had already achieved SSJ3.

Since Goku and Vegeta both achieved SSJ2 level, and Goku had even gone to SSJ3, it only makes sense that they had enough power to go PAST SSJ2(which goku and vegeta both achieved), and go SSJ3. Even still, some people argue that the Potara fusion has been stated to be stronger than the fusion dance, so Vegeto's Power Level would be so high that he really shouldve been able to possibly skip SSJ3 (similar to how gotenks skipped SSJ2 in his fusion) and go to SSJ4. This isnt possible though, because SSJ4 is something you get by turning into a golden oozaru, and since Vegeto didnt have a tail, he couldnt have. He would only be able to achieve an incredibly strong SSJ3 at best.

thats my explanation

@Damaged,

Vegeto wasnt outsmarted, he let himself be absorbed so he could go inside of Buu and release everyone he had absorbed. Thats why he had his force field up and thats why Kid Buu even happened.
Edited by Super Goku, Jul 23 2009, 04:05 PM.
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