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Who is the Most Powerful person in the Dragonball Z Universe?; *No Movies
Topic Started: Jun 6 2009, 10:28 PM (157,421 Views)
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Kamikaze Pyro
Aug 24 2011, 09:25 PM
Do you think Dai Kaioshin weakened Boo?
Wasn't that stated?
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Aug 24 2011, 09:27 PM
Kamikaze Pyro
Aug 24 2011, 09:25 PM
Do you think Dai Kaioshin weakened Boo?
Wasn't that stated?
Yes. But some people choose to ignore it.
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I always thought the other two kai's also weakened him, but I think he only turned out less evil, but still more powerful no?

Also a major drop in fighting sense compared to pure Majin Buu.
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Kamikaze Pyro
Aug 24 2011, 09:25 PM
Do you think Dai Kaioshin weakened Boo?
I think Dai held Buu from using full power, but Buu's power increased each time he got angry (portrayed by steam-from-head (sfh)). Fat Buu could have potentially surpassed Kid, Goku, etc if he'd gotten angry to that point.

He he was first released, everyone that he was all :innocent: and weaksauce. With the first sfh, Gohan went from ha-he's-weaker-than-me-and-I-don't-train to brick-in-pants-finger-up-*ss scared. Buu does that several times, but it was most evident when Mr. Satan was shot.

Why didn't he get angry at Goku? IMO, Buu thought Goku was goofy anyways until fighting him as SSJ3, and even then, Goku wasn't taunting him in particular nor was he really trying to kill him.

I'm thinking Fat Buu was around 30-35% of what he could have been until Mr. Satan was shot...
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Greetings. I will be your waifu this season.

I have a question...

Why is this topic so long?
Krillin is obviously the strongest.
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Aug 24 2011, 10:17 PM
I have a question...

Why is this topic so long?
Krillin is obviously the strongest.
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In the 3rd saga of DBZZZ, they had to enclose Super Namek Majin Krillin in a Super Saiyan Massive Black Hole, because his very existence threatened the cosmic fabric of all universes. If someone actually rivaled Krillin's power, and fought, DOMG. DOMG. The dark matter would have shattered to reveal the all-seeing, omnipresent, God of all Lords who are Lord or Lords, and despite being that Guy, he's actually pretty vulnerable, which is why he's behind the dark matter. It didn't matter though, because it happened anyway, when Neo Super Demon World Yamcha fought Angel Arale and drained the Black Hole in order to free Krillin, who reversed the Genesis Bang and reveal AT-shin who was actually Emma's younger bro.

but naw, this topic's pretty cool though.
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Aug 24 2011, 08:25 PM
I don't believe in power levels after the Frieza Saga. :D
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Edit:

The same thing keeps occuring on, and on, and on here. Once people FINALLY stop arguing, a new member sees this post and states their opinion. Since they are new to the forum, they don't know all of our "Kid Buu isn't really the strongest Buu" theories. So, then we proceed to tell them. However, these theories conflict. So, we start to argue again. After three or four more pages, we stop.

Then another new member comes....
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has anyone ever stopped to think that maybe Trunks just bought his sword somewhere or something? There's nothing really special about it.

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Well it did manage to slice Frieza into a shishkebab so it must've been packing more power than your average blade. Hell even Zelda's sword couldn't pull off that ****.



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I don't believe in power levels after the Frieza Saga. :D
Now, there's an idea.
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One guy once said the power levels got ridiculous after Goku's power up against Ginyu. I believe it.

I mean. A power level of 300,000,000 should do more than just break little rocks.

Vegeta could have easily dusted the planet at 18,000
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One guy once said the power levels got ridiculous after Goku's power up against Ginyu. I believe it.

I mean. A power level of 300,000,000 should do more than just break little rocks.

Vegeta could have easily dusted the planet at 18,000

Not necessarily. We don't know how he would've accomplished destroying the planet. The only person we've seen successfully destroy a planet was 1st Form Freeza.
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Kamikaze Pyro
Aug 24 2011, 09:25 PM
Do you think Dai Kaioshin weakened Boo?
I think Dai held Buu from using full power, but Buu's power increased each time he got angry (portrayed by steam-from-head (sfh)). Fat Buu could have potentially surpassed Kid, Goku, etc if he'd gotten angry to that point.

He he was first released, everyone that he was all :innocent: and weaksauce. With the first sfh, Gohan went from ha-he's-weaker-than-me-and-I-don't-train to brick-in-pants-finger-up-*ss scared. Buu does that several times, but it was most evident when Mr. Satan was shot.

Why didn't he get angry at Goku? IMO, Buu thought Goku was goofy anyways until fighting him as SSJ3, and even then, Goku wasn't taunting him in particular nor was he really trying to kill him.

I'm thinking Fat Buu was around 30-35% of what he could have been until Mr. Satan was shot...

Hm, I don't think he powered up after Mr. Satan and Bee had been shot. I mean, he was steaming, yeah, but nothing was said or shown about his power increasing, and if he could've achieved full power, then Dai Kaioshin's influence was kind of pointless then. He also wasn't felt on the Kai planet like SSj3 Goku was, so I don't think he surpassed that level of power.
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Aug 25 2011, 06:11 AM
Hm, I don't think he powered up after Mr. Satan and Bee had been shot. I mean, he was steaming, yeah, but nothing was said or shown about his power increasing, and if he could've achieved full power, then Dai Kaioshin's influence was kind of pointless then. He also wasn't felt on the Kai planet like SSj3 Goku was, so I don't think he surpassed that level of power.
I do say potentially, Fat Buu may have never maxed in his lifespan, and Evil Buu may not have even used full strength vs Fat Buu.

Dai's influence could have been temporary and "pointless," perhap until Buu gets sealed up again... then he's weak again when revived... [shrugs]

I suppose it's sheer opinion on my part, I bet on me not going back to the manga to Buu and Mr. Satan anytime soon...
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Aug 25 2011, 06:06 AM
One guy once said the power levels got ridiculous after Goku's power up against Ginyu. I believe it.

I mean. A power level of 300,000,000 should do more than just break little rocks.

Vegeta could have easily dusted the planet at 18,000
someone with a pl of 300,000,000 could destroy the planet easily, if that's what they chose to do.

the reason that they don't is because the type of blasts used to destroy planets aren't great for fighting, and vice versa. a planet busting attack makes a big explosion to vaporise a lot of material at once, but at any given area within that explosion, the energy level would be low, because all the energy spread out.

with a fighting attack, the energy all stays concentrated, so it can break through the defenses of the opponent, so it makes small explosions that do relatively little damage to the surroundings.
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the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

for those that blindly follow word of god
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Aug 25 2011, 06:27 AM
Kamikaze Pyro
Aug 25 2011, 06:11 AM
Hm, I don't think he powered up after Mr. Satan and Bee had been shot. I mean, he was steaming, yeah, but nothing was said or shown about his power increasing, and if he could've achieved full power, then Dai Kaioshin's influence was kind of pointless then. He also wasn't felt on the Kai planet like SSj3 Goku was, so I don't think he surpassed that level of power.
I do say potentially, Fat Buu may have never maxed in his lifespan, and Evil Buu may not have even used full strength vs Fat Buu.

Dai's influence could have been temporary and "pointless," perhap until Buu gets sealed up again... then he's weak again when revived... [shrugs]

I suppose it's sheer opinion on my part, I bet on me not going back to the manga to Buu and Mr. Satan anytime soon...
Well, that's the thing. Even if he had the power, he never would've been able to use it due to Dai Kaioshin's influence. That's kind of why I think he had to split. He couldn't get anymore powerful with Dai Kaioshin inside him, so he dispelled him, either intentionally or unintentionally.
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Aug 25 2011, 05:05 PM
Well, that's the thing. Even if he had the power, he never would've been able to use it due to Dai Kaioshin's influence. That's kind of why I think he had to split. He couldn't get anymore powerful with Dai Kaioshin inside him, so he dispelled him, either intentionally or unintentionally.
You don't think Evil Buu left because Fat Buu was actually trying to be good? What if Fat Buu didn't make the no-killing promise to Mr. Satan and just got extremely angry? Would Evil Buu have been born? Or would Fat Buu have just killed everyone there?

I think Dai Kaioshin did what he set out to do; Buu was fairly reasonable, to the point where Satan actually convinced him not to kill. Dai Kaioshin allowed Buu to be innocent, as in none of his action merited any intent, and he was easily swayed with logic. Do you think Satan would have been able to become friends with KId Buu?

Aside from that, Dai Kaioshin did suppress Buu's power, but IMO, I think it Buu's power rises when angry, and falls back when calmed again. Maybe it falls back to a set power, or maybe he stays a bit stronger than he was... [shrugs]

If he gets angry enough, he approaches his potential. Not sure if that's ever reached... But I'd imagine that he became stronger fighting Vegeta, then simmered down all the way to when Satan was shot; whether his power skyrocketed at that time... [shrugs]
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Aug 24 2011, 08:25 PM
I don't believe in power levels after the Frieza Saga. :D
After the Frieza saga, i just think of all power levels be over 9000!!!!!!!!!!
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I just think of many zero's. The stronger they say they become, the more zero's I imagine.
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