Who is the Most Powerful person in the Dragonball Z Universe?

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Who is the Most Powerful person in the Dragonball Z Universe?; *No Movies
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~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Aug 4 2011, 08:15 PM Post #256
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	Kamikaze Pyro Aug 4 2011, 08:13 PM Piccolo was a part of Gotenks-Boo. I don't get why people are saying 'without Piccolo, Boo wouldn't have won'. You guys realize Super Boo wasn't all that smart and he was at least equal with Gotenks? You realize FAT BOO, possibly one of the dumbest characters in the series, completely squashed Vegeta, one of the smartest battle tacticians, and forced him to self-destruct? You realize Kid Boo, another of the dumbest characters in the series, was equal with SSj3 Goku? Without Piccolo's smarts, Gotenks-Boo would have won, there just wouldn't have been any witty comments from him. Also, Gohan was in no way, shape, or form near Gotenks-Boo's level. That's made painfully clear when Gohan has to resort to stalling in order for Gotenks to defuse inside Boo. You can even tell by their hand-to-hand fighting that Gohan is no match for Boo, as Boo counters every single one of Gohan's moves and does him one better. So he survived the Galactic Donut, big whoop. It was one attack, and it took every ounce of strength Gohan had just to escape. After that, he was completely finished. This is what I was trying to say earlier. There was no Buutenks without Piccolo. I think it still would have been a good fight without Piccolo, but I don't know that Gohan could win. There's just not enough evidence to suggest that he could win, so I'm just gonna say he would lose. Not really sure. But that's sort of what I tried to say a few posts ago. lol.



Fulgore	Aug 5 2011, 03:14 AM Post #257
The Darkness Returns Posts: 3,163 Group: Member Member #5,205 Joined: September 2, 2010	I completely disagree KP. Gotenks Buu was on a timer. Gohan knew that. Hence he stalled, and it wasn't such an outclassed fight that Gohan was powerless like Fat buu vs Vegeta. He was tiring out, but he was able to survive the onslaught from a character that SHOULD have finished him. Not to mention, if Gotenks was the primary influence on super buu he'd of been COMPLETELY retarded. No, what you saw was not Super Buu with Gotenks' personality, what you saw was PICCOLO. KP you're completely ignoring the fact that EVERYTHING that was done in that fight was a result of Piccolo's influence. Remember fat buu? Getting distracted to go find candy? Yeah, that's the kind of intelligence that I'm SURE Gotenks would have introduced. Look at all supporting evidence of Gotenk's personality and what happened as a result. I even believe Gohan told super buu it was the right choice to absorb Piccolo Edited by Fulgore, Aug 5 2011, 03:17 AM.
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.Impression™	Aug 5 2011, 03:23 AM Post #258
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Fulgore	Aug 5 2011, 03:43 AM Post #259
The Darkness Returns Posts: 3,163 Group: Member Member #5,205 Joined: September 2, 2010	How the hell do you have Goten >Gohan
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+ Pyrus	Aug 5 2011, 07:40 AM Post #260
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Fulgore Aug 5 2011, 03:14 AM I completely disagree KP. Gotenks Buu was on a timer. Gohan knew that. Hence he stalled, and it wasn't such an outclassed fight that Gohan was powerless like Fat buu vs Vegeta. He was tiring out, but he was able to survive the onslaught from a character that SHOULD have finished him. Not to mention, if Gotenks was the primary influence on super buu he'd of been COMPLETELY retarded. Gohan didn't start out stalling for time until he knew he was beaten. He started out fighting seriously. Even Elder Kaioshin stated Gohan and Goku fighting together would be no match for him. Chapter: 500 (DBZ 306), P6.4, P7.1 Context: after Gohan and Boo fight a bit Boo: “What’s the matter? You’re erasing your ki and hiding in a place like that…Are you trying to stall for time? Meaning that just from that you seem to have realized…That like this, you’re absolutely no match for me…” Chapter: 501 (DBZ 307), P5.5 Context: Elder Kaioshin warning Goku about recklessly going to rescue Gohan from Gotenks-absorbed Boo Elder Kaioshin: “I hate to say it, but I don’t think you could win against this current Majin Boo even if the two of you went at him together…” There would be no point in stalling for time if Gohan could actually beat Gotenks-Boo, or was anywhere near his level of power. Gotenks-Boo was toying with Gohan, even stating "I've still got 10 minutes left, I plan to enjoy my time" (paraphrased), so the power difference was even larger than we saw. Quote: No, what you saw was not Super Buu with Gotenks' personality, what you saw was PICCOLO. KP you're completely ignoring the fact that EVERYTHING that was done in that fight was a result of Piccolo's influence. Remember fat buu? Getting distracted to go find candy? Yeah, that's the kind of intelligence that I'm SURE Gotenks would have introduced. Look at all supporting evidence of Gotenk's personality and what happened as a result. When Gotenks actually got serious (yes, he can be serious), he was actually a good fighter. If Gotenks-Boo (with no Piccolo) found that he was being outclassed somehow, even though he had a huge power advantage, he'd start to fight seriously, and then he'd whoop Gohan probably even worse. With Piccolo, Boo was methodical and was pushing Gohan's buttons. Without Piccolo, Boo probably just would've been a brutal mess. The point I was trying to make with Fat Boo was that when he actually got mad, because of his power advantage, he beat SSj2 Majin Vegeta in, what, two or three actual hits, and then proceeded to have take joy in beating him around? Because of his power advantage, regardless of intelligence, Fat Boo owned Vegeta. Quote: I even believe Gohan told super buu it was the right choice to absorb Piccolo Of course it was the right choice to absorb Piccolo. Without Piccolo, Boo probably would have played around for longer, but I don't believe he would have been a complete idiot. Goten and Trunks are skilled fighters, too, and combined they were still only fighting evenly with Super Boo. Gohan's more skilled than them, but not by so much it'd be a joke. With Gotenks and Boo's skills combined, Gohan would still have a problem. Edited by Pyrus, Aug 5 2011, 07:43 AM.
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Fulgore	Aug 5 2011, 03:46 PM Post #261
The Darkness Returns Posts: 3,163 Group: Member Member #5,205 Joined: September 2, 2010	A problem, maybe.. but he'd of came out on top. I'm 100% Convinced piccolo played a greater part in the fusion. People just see the Gotenks power aspect, but forget that Gohans a genius. If Super Buu could be talked into waiting for the kids to Fuse, then he could be talked into stalling while the fusion wore off. Piccolo's intelligence had none of that.. I'm not saying Gohan would of won in a straight up fight, but he would have out witted Gotenks Buu
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+ Clearin	Aug 5 2011, 03:59 PM Post #262
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	Super Buu isn't really stupid himself, he made the plan to absorb Gotenks after all. I don't think Gotenks made him any dumber, it just added Gotenks (Small) intelligence onto his already pretty-smart one. If you're so much stronger than your opponent that they can't hurt you then you don't really need brains anyway, just speed and strength.



~~Paikuan extreme~~	Aug 5 2011, 04:08 PM Post #263
Posts: 5,568 Group: Suspended Member #5,921 Joined: March 29, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? ie9 Favourite Manga akira	The guy took their power by absorbing them, its a good tactic but if the fight was SO over then why not do what kid buu did? why entertain if the point is to kill? Buu himself thought in order to defeat gohan i need piccolos brains AND gotenks power. So, if raw power was all buu needed then honestly he shouldnt have needed to transform and absrob people. He had raw power. I dont know gohans true motives, i just know what happened. In order to keep buutenks from using gotenks power which could destroy everything gohan played the stall game until he was able to take out buu with NO resistance. face it, gotenks power is the only option buu even had, without the TWO elements he needed, one without the other would have done no good. agree or dont, but what you said doesnt make much more sense to me.



Fulgore	Aug 5 2011, 07:00 PM Post #264
The Darkness Returns Posts: 3,163 Group: Member Member #5,205 Joined: September 2, 2010	Buutenks without piccolo was a Lamborghini without wheels.
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+ Pyrus	Aug 5 2011, 07:12 PM Post #265
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	I think it's more like a Lamborghini without a fourth gear, but that's just me. I don't think Piccolo had an amazing effect on Boo. He was already pretty smart, and it's not like the kids were absolutely stupid, they were just cocky. If Gohan was such a genius, why did he rush right into fighting Fat Boo like an idiot? Again, Vegeta's got more smarts than Gohan and he got crushed. I don't see Gohan winning the fight.
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Fulgore	Aug 5 2011, 07:30 PM Post #266
The Darkness Returns Posts: 3,163 Group: Member Member #5,205 Joined: September 2, 2010	Kamikaze Pyro Aug 5 2011, 07:12 PM I think it's more like a Lamborghini without a fourth gear, but that's just me. I don't think Piccolo had an amazing effect on Boo. He was already pretty smart, and it's not like the kids were absolutely stupid, they were just cocky. If Gohan was such a genius, why did he rush right into fighting Fat Boo like an idiot? Again, Vegeta's got more smarts than Gohan and he got crushed. I don't see Gohan winning the fight. Peer Pressure from the supreme Kai? lol
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+ Clearin	Aug 5 2011, 07:31 PM Post #267
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	Kamikaze Pyro Aug 5 2011, 07:12 PM I think it's more like a Lamborghini without a fourth gear, but that's just me. I don't think Piccolo had an amazing effect on Boo. He was already pretty smart, and it's not like the kids were absolutely stupid, they were just cocky. If Gohan was such a genius, why did he rush right into fighting Fat Boo like an idiot? Again, Vegeta's got more smarts than Gohan and he got crushed. I don't see Gohan winning the fight. He didn't, he tried to run away



Fulgore	Aug 5 2011, 07:33 PM Post #268
The Darkness Returns Posts: 3,163 Group: Member Member #5,205 Joined: September 2, 2010	Teen GohanZ Aug 5 2011, 07:31 PM Kamikaze Pyro Aug 5 2011, 07:12 PM I think it's more like a Lamborghini without a fourth gear, but that's just me. I don't think Piccolo had an amazing effect on Boo. He was already pretty smart, and it's not like the kids were absolutely stupid, they were just cocky. If Gohan was such a genius, why did he rush right into fighting Fat Boo like an idiot? Again, Vegeta's got more smarts than Gohan and he got crushed. I don't see Gohan winning the fight. He didn't, he tried to run away Also, let's confirm this right now Gohan who fought Fat buu was not the same Gohan who fought Super Buu. Mystic Gohan is a WHOLE Different beast
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+ Pyrus	Aug 5 2011, 07:38 PM Post #269
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	I don't understand what makes him different. He's just more confident after his potential is unlocked. He's still got the same battle smarts. He wasn't pressured by East Kaioshin either, since the first time he tried to run away, but then he ran straight into an obvious ki blast.
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Fulgore	Aug 5 2011, 07:50 PM Post #270
The Darkness Returns Posts: 3,163 Group: Member Member #5,205 Joined: September 2, 2010	Kamikaze Pyro Aug 5 2011, 07:38 PM I don't understand what makes him different. He's just more confident after his potential is unlocked. He's still got the same battle smarts. He wasn't pressured by East Kaioshin either, since the first time he tried to run away, but then he ran straight into an obvious ki blast. Confidence means everything in a fight though, look at how many times gohan's lack of confidence has almost gotten him killed? (Cell for example)
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