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Who is the Most Powerful person in the Dragonball Z Universe?; *No Movies
Topic Started: Jun 6 2009, 10:28 PM (157,425 Views)
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Aug 4 2011, 04:05 PM
Yep. Buutenks never was without Piccolo, so your statement is completely false. Buutenks was always stronger than Gohan, because he was never without Piccolo.
It's really irrelevant on the power structure. They were pretty close, considering how Buutenks was shocked when Gohan was able to break free from the Donuts.

You see, Gotenks and Super Buu don't know how to fight.

Gohan, is trained by some of the most skilled martial artists in the world, and was strong enough to survive against Buutenks until the fusion wore off.

Had piccolo's intelligence not been a factor into Buutenks, I'm 100% confident Gohan would have outmaneuvered him until the fusion wore off.
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Yeah, you're totally right, Fulgore. All I'm saying is that Buutenks never existed without Piccolo, so it really doesn't matter. It's irrevelant. I'm sure if Buutenks had been without Piccolo, then Gohan could have won, but it never happened.

And Teen, I wasn't referring to you. I was talking to Ninja. :D
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I still say he would have won regardless. He had the power to do so.
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Yeah, Gohan would have won if Buu didn't have Piccolo. But it was obvious that Buutenks dominated Gohan with Piccolo. He might have been able to pull through and win, but I'm not sure.
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You guys are getting it wrong
I think so anyway

I can't be bothered checking but I think whoever it was that said Buttenks won because of Piccolo only meant the added intelligence Piccolo gave him
So meaning if it was just Gotenks he absorbed Gohan would win
I support this.

I don't think they were that far apart it was just a stomp because Buu got pretty much all of Gohans training and memories about him which helped him fight and mess with his head
Plus he had a far wider range of techniques to use especialy with the ghosts which obviously Gohan never knew about

I would say that's why he won not so much a stomp in power

If that's not what the person was getting at...then well that's my opinion there
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Aug 4 2011, 06:51 PM
Yeah, Gohan would have won if Buu didn't have Piccolo. But it was obvious that Buutenks dominated Gohan with Piccolo. He might have been able to pull through and win, but I'm not sure.
No I mean I think Buutenks would have won regardless.
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Aug 4 2011, 07:07 PM
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Aug 4 2011, 06:51 PM
Yeah, Gohan would have won if Buu didn't have Piccolo. But it was obvious that Buutenks dominated Gohan with Piccolo. He might have been able to pull through and win, but I'm not sure.
No I mean I think Buutenks would have won regardless.
Oh. All right, then. lol
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Aug 4 2011, 06:51 PM
Yeah, Gohan would have won if Buu didn't have Piccolo. But it was obvious that Buutenks dominated Gohan with Piccolo. He might have been able to pull through and win, but I'm not sure.
Obsessive fan girl:so first you try to downplay what i meant then take my words and use them as your own?? try again, this whole point was me referring to how gohan was fighting piccolo, WITHOUT piccolo in there, buutenks wouldnt have done much. Stealing peoples words arent working for you, try another troll strategy.

Teen gohanz: yeah, that was a good example from the manga, didnt know it was detailed like that. Apparently buu was smart enough to think that plan through. But without piccolo i dont see buutenks winning. The power wasnt enough. obviously. even buu said so...


so yes fan girl, the point is totally relevant, whether YOU accept it or not.
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Aug 4 2011, 07:21 PM
Teen gohanz: yeah, that was a good example from the manga, didnt know it was detailed like that. Apparently buu was smart enough to think that plan through. But without piccolo i dont see buutenks winning. The power wasnt enough. obviously. even buu said so...
Well he does say Piccolo's intelligence helps but nothing suggest he couldn't win without it. But then again nothing says he could so I can't grantee he would win, but it's what I think ^_^
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Aug 4 2011, 07:21 PM
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Aug 4 2011, 06:51 PM
Yeah, Gohan would have won if Buu didn't have Piccolo. But it was obvious that Buutenks dominated Gohan with Piccolo. He might have been able to pull through and win, but I'm not sure.
Obsessive fan girl:so first you try to downplay what i meant then take my words and use them as your own?? try again, this whole point was me referring to how gohan was fighting piccolo, WITHOUT piccolo in there, buutenks wouldnt have done much. Stealing peoples words arent working for you, try another troll strategy.

Teen gohanz: yeah, that was a good example from the manga, didnt know it was detailed like that. Apparently buu was smart enough to think that plan through. But without piccolo i dont see buutenks winning. The power wasnt enough. obviously. even buu said so...


so yes fan girl, the point is totally relevant, whether YOU accept it or not.
What are you talking about? I'm not trolling, and I'm sure everyone can vouch for me on this one. Are you angry with me because you don't like me? I'm so confused, because I didn't think that my post was mean or hateful in any way. I'm just saying what I think. And I wasn't even talking to you in the first place.

But seriously. I don't get it.

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just another theory we cant prove huh? and on we go with our day to another topic...

every time you comment after me it always refers in the negative, so do you NOT know what you say or just dont take responsibility? this is hardly about like or dislike, i just dont like being misquoted and then looked to be made fool of, why would you disagree with what i said, make a point of telling teen gohan you were talking to me about what i said. Then you turn around and take what i said and used it as your own argument. How is that NOT trolling, if anyone here dislikes anyone its you towards me. Youve been pretty flippant since you got here. Ive ignored it, but ever since the religious topic you have made a point to follow my name and make negative comments. Grow up.
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Aug 4 2011, 07:26 PM
just another theory we cant prove huh? and on we go with our day to another topic...

every time you comment after me it always refers in the negative, so do you NOT know what you say or just dont take responsibility? this is hardly about like or dislike, i just dont like being misquoted and then looked to be made fool of, why would you disagree with what i said, make a point of telling teen gohan you were talking to me about what i said. Then you turn around and take what i said and used it as your own argument. How is that NOT trolling, if anyone here dislikes anyone its you towards me. Youve been pretty flippant since you got here. Ive ignored it, but ever since the religious topic you have made a point to follow my name and make negative comments. Grow up.
I don't feel like I've been flippant or hateful at all since I got here. If anything, I've tried to be as nice as I can be to everyone, including you. I just happen to disagree with you on a lot of things that you say. It doesn't mean I hate you. I like everyone here. I just wish we could get along and have a friendly debate from time to time. It just seems like every time I voice an opinion that's different than yours, you have a problem with it because I think differently. My post was not rude, nor was it immature. If anything, you are being a tad bit immature.

I want us to be on good terms from here on out, but you insulting me every time I differ in opinion is getting old. I wasn't trolling. There was no trolling at all until you happened to take offense to my post, just because I differed in opinion. But I forgive you, so let's just get over this and move on to better things.
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:o_O: well if being immature means not taking crap and settling for excuses from people belying their actions then i guess thats me. Dont try to pee on me and tell me its raining. If you really want to squash this then just stop doing what youre doing. So far until now, every argument ive been in with you has been started by you.

Back on topic: Vegetto/ gogeta is hands down the most powerful. No matter what. unfused? ultimate gohan.
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Aug 4 2011, 07:44 PM
:o_O: well if being immature means not taking crap and settling for excuses from people belying their actions then i guess thats me. Dont try to pee on me and tell me its raining. If you really want to squash this then just stop doing what youre doing. So far until now, every argument ive been in with you has been started by you.

Back on topic: Vegetto/ gogeta is hands down the most powerful. No matter what. unfused? ultimate gohan.
Ehhhh... I have a really hard time believing that, but okay. It seems like we're just gonna have to differ in opinion on this one, too. lol. But seriously, sorry if I ever did anything that upset you first. It's not a matter of me following your name. It's a matter of me being really interested in religion and everything else that you keep posting in, and me having an opinion that usually differs greatly from yours. I guess that's just the way it has to be, but I would appreciate it if you'd tone down the hate a little bit and accept the fact that we're probably both a little bit in the wrong here. :D

But yeah... I actually agree with the second part of your post. I tend to like Vegito a little more, though. Guess that's just personal preference. He could kick anyone's butt. Unfused? I'm gonna have to go with either SSJ3 Goku or Ultimate Gohan, which is sort of what you said. I just haven't decided who is stronger yet.
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Piccolo was a part of Gotenks-Boo. I don't get why people are saying 'without Piccolo, Boo wouldn't have won'. You guys realize Super Boo wasn't all that smart and he was at least equal with Gotenks? You realize FAT BOO, possibly one of the dumbest characters in the series, completely squashed Vegeta, one of the smartest battle tacticians, and forced him to self-destruct? You realize Kid Boo, another of the dumbest characters in the series, was equal with SSj3 Goku? Without Piccolo's smarts, Gotenks-Boo would have won, there just wouldn't have been any witty comments from him.

Also, Gohan was in no way, shape, or form near Gotenks-Boo's level. That's made painfully clear when Gohan has to resort to stalling in order for Gotenks to defuse inside Boo. You can even tell by their hand-to-hand fighting that Gohan is no match for Boo, as Boo counters every single one of Gohan's moves and does him one better. So he survived the Galactic Donut, big whoop. It was one attack, and it took every ounce of strength Gohan had just to escape. After that, he was completely finished.
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