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A question for the individual; Theism vs. Atheism
Topic Started: May 18 2009, 11:27 PM (139 Views)
Kotetsu	May 18 2009, 11:27 PM Post #1
SOUPER SAYIN THREE Posts: 6,113 Group: Admin Adviser Member #48 Joined: December 17, 2004 Favourite Anime Naruto What Browser do you use? Firefox, anything else is for failures. Favourite Manga Naruto Shippuuden, Straight from Japan.	This will require a bit of thought on your behalf. Please word your answer carefully. My point will come later if it suddenly appears, and if it does not then so be it. As a theist or atheist, what events or possibilities would make you convert to the opposite idea? Please make your answers basic.
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DFMike	May 18 2009, 11:37 PM Post #2
DFMike Posts: 2,650 Group: GFX Ensign Member #957 Joined: December 17, 2005 What Browser do you use? Safari and Explorer Favourite Manga FMA I guess, not that i read it anymore	I'll keep this simple, just like you want. I NEVER pray, however, last year and the year before, at the end of school year, my school..."life" was getting extrmely bad(grades, love, etc.) I prayed once both times and said to myself, you know what, if everything does actually go well, I'll promise to start considering God's existence for you know helping me out I guess. Every since then, I'm still an atheist, but I think, ok, maaaybe.... big big big maybe since I would never believe in him if I never got past those 2 years. Edited by DFMike, May 18 2009, 11:38 PM.
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+ Byakko	May 18 2009, 11:50 PM Post #3
Operor Vel Non Operor Posts: 8,848 Group: Legend Member #158 Joined: February 7, 2005 Favourite Anime Naruto Shippuuden What Browser do you use? Opera 9.6 Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	In order to convert to belief, I'd need absoloute, undeniable evidence that whatever religion it is - say Christianity - is right. Some would say the bible is proof, but I don't believe something written by a human - or a collection of humans - can show the power or even the existence of the divine. God used to talk to people, but he doens't now? Yeah, bite me faith.
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-Zero-	May 19 2009, 01:49 AM Post #4
Posts: 4,970 Group: Super Moderator Member #1,874 Joined: November 5, 2006	To be honest I don't know if there would be anything that would make me convert. If I saw someone walking on water I would think of it to be a trick or just someone that somehow got a super power through science or something. I guess for me to actually start believing god himself would have to talk to me and take me on a tour in heaven, either that or Satan just come to earth with his demon army and laugh "HAHAHAHA, the earth is now mine"
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*Brian*	May 19 2009, 04:42 AM Post #5
Homosexual Ogre Posts: 932 Group: Troll Member #4,185 Joined: May 9, 2009 What Browser do you use? Firefox	I agree 100% with both posters above me. They about summed up my exact opinions on conversion. (extremely unlikely, haha) "HAHAHAHA, the earth is now mine" - Magnificent.
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Kotetsu	May 19 2009, 04:58 AM Post #6
SOUPER SAYIN THREE Posts: 6,113 Group: Admin Adviser Member #48 Joined: December 17, 2004 Favourite Anime Naruto What Browser do you use? Firefox, anything else is for failures. Favourite Manga Naruto Shippuuden, Straight from Japan.	Ok now we need some theist answers.
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*Brian*	May 19 2009, 05:42 AM Post #7
Homosexual Ogre Posts: 932 Group: Troll Member #4,185 Joined: May 9, 2009 What Browser do you use? Firefox	Kotetsu May 19 2009, 04:58 AM Ok now we need some theist answers. Probably a rarity hahaha. I'd say if there are any theists on here, they more than likely feel pretty intimidated. After all, we are a little... bigoted. lol
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* NeciFiX	May 19 2009, 05:48 AM Post #8
Don't Read This. Posts: 11,175 Group: Retired Staff Member #415 Joined: April 21, 2005	I'm Spiritual. My father I believe believes in God, and my mother used to be quite a devoted Christian, so, I'm a bit distant from them. At one point I considered Atheism as maybe having some merit, but, eh, I think sometimes things are a bit too coincidental, to be, well, coincidences. I believe that there is a God in existence, whether or not I agree with 90% of his annoying followers and groups that try and suck you into activities and such and if you question them they beat you with a Bible or not is another thing.
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Kotetsu	May 19 2009, 01:47 PM Post #9
SOUPER SAYIN THREE Posts: 6,113 Group: Admin Adviser Member #48 Joined: December 17, 2004 Favourite Anime Naruto What Browser do you use? Firefox, anything else is for failures. Favourite Manga Naruto Shippuuden, Straight from Japan.	NeciFiX May 19 2009, 05:48 AM I'm Spiritual. My father I believe believes in God, and my mother used to be quite a devoted Christian, so, I'm a bit distant from them. At one point I considered Atheism as maybe having some merit, but, eh, I think sometimes things are a bit too coincidental, to be, well, coincidences. I believe that there is a God in existence, whether or not I agree with 90% of his annoying followers and groups that try and suck you into activities and such and if you question them they beat you with a Bible or not is another thing. But what would make you change.
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AngelicHottieDS	May 19 2009, 09:49 PM Post #10
Pookie Posts: 9,357 Group: GFX Lieutenant Member #1,340 Joined: April 21, 2006	Wow this is a hard topic for me. I don't think I'd ever change from believing in God. Since this is a topic that is up for the possibility, then the only way I'd change is if I died and nothing happened like heaven and stuff like that.
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Viddy Veechi	May 19 2009, 09:56 PM Post #11
If I Could, Would You? Posts: 3,606 Group: Super Moderator Member #1,545 Joined: July 5, 2006 Favourite Anime Bleach, Dragonball Z, TMOHS, Naruto, FMA What Browser do you use? Firefox	AngelicHottieDS May 19 2009, 09:49 PM Wow this is a hard topic for me. I don't think I'd ever change from believing in God. Since this is a topic that is up for the possibility, then the only way I'd change is if I died and nothing happened like heaven and stuff like that. I'd have to agree with AH on this one. If and only if I died and found that there is in fact no God and when you die, you just become a skeleton/corpse in a coffin/pile of ashes, etc etc, I'd admit to it. However, for the time being, although I do not practice regularly if at all, nor study religion in depth, I am perfectly fine accepting that there is some kind of god out there, even if I might not know much about religion or what this god is like. It's one of those things that I can have to hold on to if things get a bit tough for me to handle even if I am clueless about any of it, and a bit spiritual and mystic and all the rest lol.
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Kotetsu	May 20 2009, 03:28 AM Post #12
SOUPER SAYIN THREE Posts: 6,113 Group: Admin Adviser Member #48 Joined: December 17, 2004 Favourite Anime Naruto What Browser do you use? Firefox, anything else is for failures. Favourite Manga Naruto Shippuuden, Straight from Japan.	So basically as theists, you could never be wrong until the day you die. And when you die, then it's possible to be wrong. I'm waiting for Temphis to reply.
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SSJVegito	May 20 2009, 05:58 AM Post #13
Ally to good. Nightmare to you. Posts: 435 Group: Member Member #3,979 Joined: February 11, 2009 Favourite Anime Neon Genesis Evangelion. Dragonball Z. Rurouni Kenshin. What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Neon Genesis Evangelion. Dragonball/Z. FMA.	I don't have a faith. But I don't consider myself atheist either. I'm religiously curious. I like to learn about other people's beliefs. In order for me to join a faith, religion, etc, I'd need proof. And not one of those 'miracles' like a baby's birth or something lame like that. Some sort of occurance that cannot be proven by scientific means whatsoever but can't be disproved scientifically either. Basically I'd need the hand of God to come down and beat my skeptical *** before I'd believe.



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