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| Cell VS Gohan (all forms); 7 Years | |
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| Topic Started: May 18 2009, 08:34 AM (231 Views) | |
| Brian | May 18 2009, 08:34 AM Post #1 |
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Here, I want to discuss all forms of Gohan verses all forms of Cell. Gohan's power decline is hard to determine, but we will also talk about the things that seem evident. SSJ2 Gohan VS Cell: Everybody says that Gohan was "way" stronger than Cell during their fight. I simply don't get this. Cell merely blasted Gohan with a ki blast and it almost entirely disabled him. He even admitted, "There's no point in fighting. We've lost." ??? Gohan is much stronger than Super Perfect Cell? I mean, if Cell went in for a simple final round of fighting with Gohan, how would Gohan have ever been able to keep up?? I'm talking about a -fair- fight. No Goku, no Vegeta 'n' friends, just Super Perfect Cell VS SSJ2 Gohan. |
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| SSJVegito | May 18 2009, 06:02 PM Post #2 |
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But you have to look at it in terms of power. The Kamehameha duel prooved that Gohan still had just as much power as Cell and he was only at half power after the blast. And Gohan wasn't fighting when he was disabled. He was willingly putting himself in a dangerous position to protect Vegeta. So his body was vulnerable to attack. If we look at shear power I still think Gohan is on top. Half power Gohan was completely even with SP Cell. |
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| Brian | May 18 2009, 06:31 PM Post #3 |
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It seemed like he won the kamehameha struggle because his friends gave him the opportunistic advantage to use his full power. I'm sure it would not have been necessary if he would have just blasted him away in the first place. As for Gohan getting injured, well, I just don't believe that if he were quite a bit stronger than Cell, that simple ki blast would have entirely disabled him. In-fact, it almost made Cell look even more powerful than -Gohan.- Usually if one single attack disables a fighter, the disabled fighter is inferior. Goku has been hit from unpredicted/bad angles tons of times, and still got back up with little problem to continue a well-fought battle. |
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| * NeciFiX | May 18 2009, 10:06 PM Post #4 |
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No. Only Vegeta did. In the Manga, Goku isn't even there, just spiritually guiding Gohan and giving him his support and courage. Vegeta blasts Cell with one ki blast in the side of the head, temporarily distracting him. But, even if Vegeta didn't do that, at that moment, Gohan would've exploded anyways, destroying Cell and he really couldn't do anything. Gohan would be above Super Perfect Cell. Granted it wouldn't be eons ahead, but, he'd still probably win one on one. |
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| Brian | May 19 2009, 04:19 AM Post #5 |
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Okay. I'm not so sure about this. It just seems difficult to determine. Even Frieza never hurt Goku like Cell hurt Gohan, and those two were very similar in power. Kid Buu never hurt Goku very bad either. Moving on. Was SSJ2 Adult Gohan as strong as SSJ2 Teen Gohan? If he wasn't, as powerful, it would seem as though Super Perfect Cell would win that match up, yes? Gohan's power seemed like it declined greatly. |
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| * NeciFiX | May 20 2009, 03:32 AM Post #6 |
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Maybe. Dabra was supposed to be as strong as Cell. Gohan fought him pretty evenly in the manga if I remember correctly. |
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| SSJVegito | May 20 2009, 04:49 AM Post #7 |
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It's been stated that Gohan got weaker after that 7 years because he was more worried about his studies than training. So I'll give SP Cell a win in a match up against adult Gohan. Teen Gohan: No way. |
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| Brian | May 20 2009, 07:25 PM Post #8 |
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SP Cell seems to be an underdog. I never thought a majority would find Gohan to be "much stronger" than SP Cell. Is this a plot hole, though? V "Dabra was supposed to be as strong as Cell." "It's been stated that Gohan got weaker after that 7 years" What the hell. |
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| Psyam | May 20 2009, 07:43 PM Post #9 |
 
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This topic is hard to answer, that's why I haven't replied here yet. For your last post Brian, I always assumed Dabura was as strong as Perfect Cell, not Super Perfect. However, this whole thing is hard because its illogical: Dabura is equal to either Perfect Cell or Super Perfect Cell, for this example it can be either. I'm going with just Perfect Cell (and that's being nice to Gohan). Perfect Cell beat the crap out of FPSSJ Gohan (Gohan could of put up a decent fight like Goku did if he had fought back, but still). Gohan fought Dabura in FPSSJ form, if memory serves. If Gohan really was weaker then his Cell Games self, a fighter equal to Perfect Cell (who beat up FPSSJ Cell Game's Gohan) should of trashed Adult Gohan, but Dabura didn't. The only answer is that its either a plothole, or Gohan was SSJ2 when fighting Dabura. I don't remember seeing any lightening, and as far as I can remember the only time adult Gohan ever went SSJ2 was at the world tournament. (On a side note, that's also what the BT3 character biography for Adult Gohan says, and they pay people who know more then me to write that I expect.) So yes, if I am right about the above, then there is a fault in the characters powers. However, it IS possible that after having his energy drained by Spopovitch and Yamu and then recovering, Gohan got a Saiyan DNA boost that brought him back up to his Cell Game's self, thus allowing him to fight on equal terms with Dabura. However, that's a very pushed explanation. As to if Adult Gohan could beat Super Perfect Cell? No...I don't think he could. Not unless he really did get a boost from having his energy drained. I think he lost too much strength to fight at the level he did against SPC. However, he would not be a lot weaker then Cell, just a little I reckon. In which case, Cell would win due to regeneration and techniques. Edited by Psyam, May 20 2009, 07:45 PM.
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| DbzNerd | May 22 2009, 09:16 AM Post #10 |
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Will 2 b sure, even though SP Cell injured SSJ2 Gohan with 1 attack we must also no that this Gohan is not at his prime. SSJ2 Gohan even though didn't look like it, he must had wasted alot of energy during his 1st Kamehameha counter against Perfect Cell plus maintaining his SSJ2 trans must of burned his Ki since Gohan no nothing about this form he shouldn't of known how 2 conserve it's energy like the traditional SSJs. So most likely chances that SP Cell beating SSJ2 Gohan at his prime is low. congrats Psyam ur a Moderator now.
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| rob | Jul 20 2009, 06:44 PM Post #11 |
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i'd say cell would beat adult gohan ss2, because in the cell saga he had a year of training in the htc with goku so he was ready to fight with cell, but in the buu saga he was useless untill he was taken by the supreme kai and became ultimate gohan then he would obviously destroy cell. so adult gohan fpss2 would lose teen gohan fpss2 disabled (or not) would win. ultimate gohan would win. |
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| Meta Cooler | Jul 20 2009, 10:21 PM Post #12 |
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Mystic Gohan and SSJ2 Adult is no match for super perfect cell, nevertheless Gohan killed SP Cell as a teen-ager. |
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| BUU | Jul 20 2009, 10:31 PM Post #13 |
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Well, I read that it was confirmed that Gohan was SS2 when he fought Dabura. I would say that Dabura is around Perfect Cell's power, but not Super Perfect Cell. And since the diffence between Super Perfect and Perfect is big (Perfect got his butt kicked by SS2, but Super Perfect matched evenly against SS2), Cell would beat SS2 Gohan in the Buu Saga. But if Gohan went Mystic, he would no doubt beat Cell in one punch. And if you don't believe me about SS2 Gohan fighting Dabura, follow this link below and read the buu saga part. http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Gohan |
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| Psyam | Jul 20 2009, 10:32 PM Post #14 |
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I'm sorry, but that's really wrong. Mystic Gohan is way above even SSJ3 Goku. He could destroy Cell with a flick of his wrist. Edit: Well Buu, I've seen more evidence to suggest he was only SSJ. And you can't take any wiki's word as law. I could go on there now and change it to SSJ if I wanted. Edited by Psyam, Jul 20 2009, 10:35 PM.
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| BUU | Jul 20 2009, 10:36 PM Post #15 |
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that's true, but do you still agree that Siper Perfect Cell would beat Gohan |
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