Three reasons for dismissing Christianity.

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Three reasons for dismissing Christianity.
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Rockman	Apr 22 2009, 03:31 PM Post #1
hoighty-toighty Posts: 11,070 Group: Guardian Member #48 Joined: December 17, 2004 Gender Male Country United States What Browser do you use? Firefox, when it isn't crashing.	I claim that the Bible teaches racism at it's most basic concept. Right from the start too. Genesis. When you have one white women, and one white man, what do you get? If your answer was anything other than a white baby, then obviously something is wrong with your story. Especially if that white male and white female were, "THE FIRST HUMANS ON EARTH." It's no secret that two races that mix are capable of creating new races and ethnicity. Spain+Asia = Philippines. Spain+Indians=Mexico. I claim that the man, or men who wrote Genesis were white supremacists at its most early stages of thought. Is it possible that God favors one race over another? Another question NO ONE can answer correctly. This is the first point i'd like to make. Quote: How many children did Adam and Eve have? The Bible does not give us a specific number. Adam and Eve had Cain (Genesis 4:1), Abel (Genesis 4:2), Seth (Genesis 4:25), and many other sons and daughters (Genesis 5:4). With likely hundreds of years of child-bearing capability, Adam and Eve likely had 50+ children in their lifetime. Now that we know according to the bible, that adam and eve had 50+ children in their lifetime, and assuming that the bible is the literal word of god, then why can't my children love each other and make more children? Or did I just spill another taboo all over the floor with incest? I most certainly did. That's my second point. There's nothing wrong with saturating the gene pool, especially if you want kids with mental health issues and syndromes. For my third point, I claim that in order for you to believe Christianity completely, and call yourself a Christian, you must live and die by my first two points. Racism, and Incest. If not, you are throwing out sections of the bible that are crucial to explaining how we are here. And if you throw out those arguments, WHAT DO YOU HAVE? Speaking of throwing stuff out of the bible, claim the following as moral and right, otherwise dismiss your religion at once. Exodus 21 and down. - Selling your daughter into slavery. And slavery in general. And basically that men are superior to women, and should do what they're told. So what have I learned today by sitting down with the King James Bible? White's are superior. Incest is okay. And women should know their place. I can buy girls for slavery. My day is off to a good start already. "What can be asserted without proof, can be dismissed without proof."
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Fused	Apr 22 2009, 03:35 PM Post #2
Posts: 460 Group: Donator Member #4,028 Joined: March 14, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, forever and always. What Browser do you use? Chrome	I tip my hat off to you, good sir, for you have just completely owned the bible. Congratulations.



* Psyam	Apr 22 2009, 03:44 PM Post #3
Posts: 1,788 Group: Retired Staff Member #3,439 Joined: May 18, 2008 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime HxH What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga One Piece	I'm not religious, but I believe that people can believe whatever they want to. Trying to prove that a certain religion/no religion is superior is just an argument that will never be finished, I've seen it so many times. However, I do agree that the bible has some major flaws in it compared to what's accepted today. A lot can just be considered the times changing, though. It wasn't just Christians who thought that women's only place was in the kitchen and having children, back hundreds of years ago (not even that in a lot of places). Edit: Typo. Edited by Psyam, Apr 22 2009, 03:45 PM.



* -Zero-	Apr 22 2009, 06:08 PM Post #4
Black Knight Posts: 8,697 Group: Retired Staff Member #1,874 Joined: November 5, 2006 Favourite Anime Code Geass, Death Note, Dragonball/Z	LMAO, haha I wonder how many people will be pissed off at the truth revealed. Psyam I believe that people should believe in what they want, however I am not against this topic, easily because a lot of religion people are always trying to make me believe and every time I say im an atheist they say I believe in the devil so I'm pretty sick of that. My rule is believe what you want, leave my believes alone. It doesn't happen as much as I'd like to. It seems like when a lot of people find out I'm an atheist I get looked at like I'm some kind of criminal
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* Psyam	Apr 22 2009, 06:16 PM Post #5
Posts: 1,788 Group: Retired Staff Member #3,439 Joined: May 18, 2008 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime HxH What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga One Piece	I have noticed that there are a lot of religious people (mainly Christians, but those are who I've interacted with most) that will try to force their beliefs upon you. What I do hate is religious parents who force feed their children religion so much that the kids don't even have a choice, it's like brainwashing, in some cases the children won't even think it possible that their religion can be wrong. They should be raised to think for themselves and decide if they want to be religious or not.



* -Zero-	Apr 22 2009, 06:32 PM Post #6
Black Knight Posts: 8,697 Group: Retired Staff Member #1,874 Joined: November 5, 2006 Favourite Anime Code Geass, Death Note, Dragonball/Z	I agree with you. Parents shouldn't force their beliefs into their children, the children should believe in what they want. I;m not trying to say religion is bad, or that all religious people are bad nor anything. I simply speak from personal experience. But yeah parents shouldn't force their believes into their children
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Rockman	Apr 22 2009, 07:53 PM Post #7
hoighty-toighty Posts: 11,070 Group: Guardian Member #48 Joined: December 17, 2004 Gender Male Country United States What Browser do you use? Firefox, when it isn't crashing.	Fused Apr 22 2009, 03:35 PM I tip my hat off to you, good sir, for you have just completely owned the bible. Congratulations. A good friend once told me, "You can never prove or disprove the existence of god. You can however prove the Bible incorrect. Our fight is with the Bible, not God." Let's not get off track here. This topic isn't about who believes what and why. It's about my three points. And JS, they won't be pissed. Every person of religion believes their religion is the absolute truth. And because they are told that it is the absolute truth, they throw out arguments against it. They hear only what they want.
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* -Zero-	Apr 22 2009, 07:59 PM Post #8
Black Knight Posts: 8,697 Group: Retired Staff Member #1,874 Joined: November 5, 2006 Favourite Anime Code Geass, Death Note, Dragonball/Z	Yeah but your three points pretty much bring up the believes so in a way everything is connected. Perhaps not directly but it is nonetheless. And disproving the bible wouldn't that pretty much make everything ever said about god totally useless? Especially since the ideas people get about God come from the bible. So that's a pretty interesting statement your friend said Edit: Wow having 50 kids? LMAO people do realize that after a certain age women can't have kids anymore right? So fifty or more kids is pretty impossible seeing as for one kid to be born would take about one year less but still we'll average at a year. So fifty kids would be 50 years. It is around this age if I'mnot mistaken that women can't have kids anymore. Also She would have to be older since there is no way for a girl to have kids until she reaches the age of what 13 14? Not sure. And just because she was the first woman she would have special powers? Edited by -Zero-, Apr 22 2009, 08:48 PM.
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Rockman	Apr 22 2009, 08:49 PM Post #9
hoighty-toighty Posts: 11,070 Group: Guardian Member #48 Joined: December 17, 2004 Gender Male Country United States What Browser do you use? Firefox, when it isn't crashing.	I know it's difficult to refrain from spewing ones beliefs in this thread, but there are other topics where that can be discussed. This thread is specifically related to my three points. I want differing opinions.
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Trickster	Apr 22 2009, 11:09 PM Post #10
Ninja Posts: 327 Group: Member Member #4,130 Joined: April 17, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Naruto What Browser do you use? Firefox	I would love to debate over this, because i myself love to debate. However, i also agree with you. The bible has so many flaws, and people just look over them because of what they were taught and believe. I myself am split down the middle, believing in a way about god, but never go to church or anything like that. But like someone said before, good luck with this, i am glad when people bring this stuff up, but to a lot, this is a touchy subject.
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* Sousen Ichimonji	Apr 24 2009, 10:24 PM Post #11
You are calm and reposed, let your beauty unfold Posts: 4,176 Group: Retired Staff Member #3,986 Joined: February 15, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Avatar What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Ai Kora	I don't believe that religion is in anyway correct, and each religion is in its own way flawed. However, to speak out against religion is just to act as we would hate for the religious to act. There are many places in the world in which religion plays a major part in peoples lives because they have nothing else, so would you explain to these people that they are wrong? Please don't get me wrong, I'm an aethiest. I dislike religon for many reasons, chief amongst them being a point made earlier in this topic: the absense of choice for children. Beliefs are passed down like an inherited gene. Things told to a child from an authority figure (like a parent) will be seen as fact, and it is unfair to use this trust to share only one belief with a child. Which brings me to a point I have against Christianity: if the bible and christianity are based on free will, then why is it customary for children to be babtised, when they are too young to have a say? And why is it that, as mentioned before, that parents will force-feed their beliefs to their children, not giving them a choice? I ask you all this: is there a difference between a cult and a religion other than religions being far more widely accepted? Edited by Sousen Ichimonji, Apr 24 2009, 10:24 PM.
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DbzNerd	Apr 25 2009, 12:04 AM Post #12
Posts: 355 Group: Member Member #3,761 Joined: October 21, 2008 Favourite Anime hunter x hunter, girls bravo Favourite Manga dbz, hunter x hunter, to love-ru	1. 2 lzy 2 learn it. 2. 2 lzy 2 do it. 3. 2 old 2 care about it. My 3 reasons.



Rockman	Apr 25 2009, 03:16 PM Post #13
hoighty-toighty Posts: 11,070 Group: Guardian Member #48 Joined: December 17, 2004 Gender Male Country United States What Browser do you use? Firefox, when it isn't crashing.	The Crack Fox Apr 24 2009, 10:24 PM There are many places in the world in which religion plays a major part in peoples lives because they have nothing else, so would you explain to these people that they are wrong? Yes. People are capable of getting by without religion. But most people ignore that.
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* Sousen Ichimonji	Apr 27 2009, 08:19 PM Post #14
You are calm and reposed, let your beauty unfold Posts: 4,176 Group: Retired Staff Member #3,986 Joined: February 15, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Avatar What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Ai Kora	Kotetsu Apr 25 2009, 03:16 PM The Crack Fox Apr 24 2009, 10:24 PM There are many places in the world in which religion plays a major part in peoples lives because they have nothing else, so would you explain to these people that they are wrong? Yes. People are capable of getting by without religion. But most people ignore that. Humans, especially the desperate, have a right to hope, no matter how ridiculous there hope is to us. I disagree with religion, but it's not our place to run around telling people what to believe. If we did that, we'd be as bad as the religions.
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* -Zero-	Apr 27 2009, 08:36 PM Post #15
Black Knight Posts: 8,697 Group: Retired Staff Member #1,874 Joined: November 5, 2006 Favourite Anime Code Geass, Death Note, Dragonball/Z	I don't like the fact that people bring up if we do this we will be as bad as they. I agree to not always do it and etc, but it comes time it must otherwise we are letting them get away with everything they are always doing, which isn't right either.
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