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Tien Vs Frieza
Topic Started: Mar 24 2009, 08:51 PM (7,481 Views)
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This is tien at his strongest. So around the Cell Saga i'd say. And how do you think he'd fair against Frieza's forms 1-4
Cell Saga Tien VS Frieza form 1, 2, 3 and Final

Can he beat the Original?, maybe 2? 3rd form? FINAL!?!?!?!!? lol
have fun

Final Consensus: Most Agree that:

Tien vs Frieza First Form ~ Tien Wins
Tien vs Frieza Second Form ~ 50/50
Tien vs All Other Frieza Forms ~ Frieza Wins
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Well...Tien has gotten stronger in Cell saga, but i still don't think he would be a match for Frieza.

Maybe he can win against Frieza's 1st, and maybe 2nd form, but he would get totally destroyed by Frieza in his last form.

To defeat Frieza in his last form it would have to mean that Tien has gotten as strong as Goku ssj in Frieza saga. Tien strong as ssj ?!!!!...LOL that isn't possible,not even after 100 years of training.

Frieza wins this one...no sweat !!!
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tien may be able to put up a good fight against frieza's first form.the second form could become more difficult.because it took piccolo being fused with nail to take him on.he would be no match for the 3rd form.final form frieza would destroy him.because frieza in his final form held his own against goku at kaioken max.frieza also survived a spirit bomb.tien more then likely could only do well against frieza's 1st form. and possibly the 2nd.
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Well, Tien did okay against Cell 2nd form, around the same as Piccolo did on 1st form cell, who had fused with Kami, so I think he may have a chance. Maybe.
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Tien holding back 2nd form Cell is kind of an anomaly, and smells like a plot hole to me. You would think that if he could hold back 2nd form Cell like that, who was by all accounts leaps and bounds stronger than first form Cell, who was stronger than android 17, who was stronger than future trunks, who was stronger than Freiza, that Tien could kill Frieza with one of those tri-beam cannons.

However, Android 17 is clearly > Tien. So the fact that Tien held back 2nd form Cell simply doesn't make sense at all. Anyway, Frieza >> Tien. How could Tien possibly get even close to that strong anyway? He couldn't even beat Nappa. Humans don't get Zenkai boosts the way Saiyans do. It was just A.T.'s excuse to use Tien, so he wouldn't seem comepletely useless.
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I wouldn't say plothole with that situation, but i do agree that it is ridiculous to say that Tien can put up a good fight against Cell form2. And i doubt he can face up to the Androids. He obviously cudnt beat Nappa but that was a totally differnt saga/time frame. He cud crush Nappa now if he wanted. Even with the filler they gave when Tien faced off against one of the ginyu force he proved he'd improved just like piccolo and the others had. The attack tri-beam is a very powerful/life-taking attack. It not only drains energy but your health and makes u were without getting hit or anything. All tien did was hold cell down long enuff to buy time. If AT wanted to do something differnt he cud have changed the story however he wanted. I think Tien can beat Friezas first/original form because he got plenty of training from king kai and after 3 yrs of training afterwards he can take on that type of power. I think he can put up a fight again Frieza's second form but will fall. I don't think he stands a chance against the 3rd or final b/c not even piccolo or vegeta could stand againt his power.

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How could a human stand up to Freiza? No matter how hard they train, it's just not going to happen :P

edit: I'm referring to his 4th form. I think Tien actually could stand up to his first form if we're talking about Tien from the Buu saga.
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Friezzaaaaa. For sure. ;o
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Tien would win vs. Frieza's first form but that would be it.
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Tien would lose against 1st form Freiza and his others would b beyond overkill.
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Tien would easily beat Freiza. For starters he is at his strongest near the buu saga since he kept on training in the mountains with Chiatzu. Tien was able to hold his own against cell 2nd form which is almost 4x stronger than Freiza 100% max. Power. (Cell power level = 47,000,000 and Frieza power level (100% power) = 12,000,000). Therefore for Tien to actually hold cell down with his Neo Tri-Beam he would have to have had a power level close enough to cell to actually inflict damage. Anyway this still isn't Tien at his strongest, he was strongest in the buu saga because he trained with Chiatzu in the mountains and at the end Tien was able to deflect a blast from Buutenks (Power Level 6,000,000,000) (500x Frieza Max. power) and for Tien to be able to deflect a blast from buutenks he would also need a power level of atleast 1,000,000,000.
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Nov 15 2011, 01:57 AM
Tien would easily beat Freiza. For starters he is at his strongest near the buu saga since he kept on training in the mountains with Chiatzu. Tien was able to hold his own against cell 2nd form which is almost 4x stronger than Freiza 100% max. Power. (Cell power level = 47,000,000 and Frieza power level (100% power) = 12,000,000). Therefore for Tien to actually hold cell down with his Neo Tri-Beam he would have to have had a power level close enough to cell to actually inflict damage. Anyway this still isn't Tien at his strongest, he was strongest in the buu saga because he trained with Chiatzu in the mountains and at the end Tien was able to deflect a blast from Buutenks (Power Level 6,000,000,000) (500x Frieza Max. power) and for Tien to be able to deflect a blast from buutenks he would also need a power level of atleast 1,000,000,000.
!. Freeza's pl has to be over 100,000,000

2. Tenshinhan was no where near Cell and all he did to Cell was give him some burns and push him back.

3. Your Cell and Gotenks-Buu pls are ridiculously small.


OT: I have Tenshinhan around Freeza (vs Kaioken x 10 Goku) at the Android arc and waaaaay past 100% Freeza by the Buu arc.
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Nov 15 2011, 01:57 AM
Tien would easily beat Freiza. For starters he is at his strongest near the buu saga since he kept on training in the mountains with Chiatzu. Tien was able to hold his own against cell 2nd form which is almost 4x stronger than Freiza 100% max. Power. (Cell power level = 47,000,000 and Frieza power level (100% power) = 12,000,000). Therefore for Tien to actually hold cell down with his Neo Tri-Beam he would have to have had a power level close enough to cell to actually inflict damage. Anyway this still isn't Tien at his strongest, he was strongest in the buu saga because he trained with Chiatzu in the mountains and at the end Tien was able to deflect a blast from Buutenks (Power Level 6,000,000,000) (500x Frieza Max. power) and for Tien to be able to deflect a blast from buutenks he would also need a power level of atleast 1,000,000,000.
But Tien didn't inflict any damage on Cell. All he did was push him back. Also, that blast was only strong enough to kill Dende and I don't think Buu put any effort into it at all.
I think Tien could beat Friezas first three forms by the Buu saga but I don't think he could get past 50% Frieza.
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I honestly don't want to debate this (I figure each to his own for the humans), but I will state my personal opinion.

1st Form Frieza vs. Tien (At the time the Namekians leave): Tien stomps
2ns Form Frieza vs. Tien (Trunks Saga): Tien wins
3rd Form Frieza vs. Tien (Android Saga): Tien godstomps him
50% 4th Form Frieza vs. Tien (Cell Games): Tien puts up a somewhat decent fight but is killed.
100% Frieza vs Tien (Buu Saga): Tien ruins his soul worse than he did to 3rd form Frieza 2 lines above this.
Mecha Frieza, with every other form of Frieza shown in canon vs Tien (Buu saga): Tien kills them all simply by powering up.

I have Tien in the Buu saga around Android 16. Tien survived Buu's extinction attack, 17 didn't. If you want to explain it in a different way, I fully accept your view as valid. But my opinion will not be changed: I would like to agree to disagree about this issue.
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Nov 15 2011, 05:02 AM
I honestly don't want to debate this (I figure each to his own for the humans), but I will state my personal opinion.

1st Form Frieza vs. Tien (At the time the Namekians leave): Tien stomps
2ns Form Frieza vs. Tien (Trunks Saga): Tien wins
3rd Form Frieza vs. Tien (Android Saga): Tien godstomps him
50% 4th Form Frieza vs. Tien (Cell Games): Tien puts up a somewhat decent fight but is killed.
100% Frieza vs Tien (Buu Saga): Tien ruins his soul worse than he did to 3rd form Frieza 2 lines above this.
Mecha Frieza, with every other form of Frieza shown in canon vs Tien (Buu saga): Tien kills them all simply by powering up.

I have Tien in the Buu saga around Android 16. Tien survived Buu's extinction attack, 17 didn't. If you want to explain it in a different way, I fully accept your view as valid. But my opinion will not be changed: I would like to agree to disagree about this issue.
17 was never said to be killed Super Buu. Tien and Chou both survived because they could sense ki. Buu shot his blasts at all the people he sensed. 17 can't be sensed to have a blast even sent his way. He just didn't go to the battle because he can't sense where it is unlike Tien who knew how to find the location. One coud just as easily say Kid Buu killed 17, just as he did with Tien, Piccolo, Gohan, Goten, and Trunks and that can't be disproved, in fact it is far more likely.
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