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What would you do...
Tweet Topic Started: Feb 13 2009, 03:44 AM (1,837 Views)
+ Byakko	Feb 15 2009, 12:28 AM Post #16
I once gave a Kangaroo a heart-attack just by staring at it Posts: 10,219 Group: Legend Member #158 Joined: February 7, 2005 Gender Male Favourite Anime Naruto Shippuuden What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	Mitas Feb 14 2009, 08:08 PM green_480 Feb 14 2009, 06:46 PM If this happened to me i wouldn't treat the trans gender person much differently than other people but when i did interact with "her" i would feel a little weird know that "she" was once a guy. There is no way i would date that person, in my head that person will still be part male and i don't date guys. That's a point, I don't think I could ever date somebody who had a sex change. It'd always be in my mind that they used to be a guy. Sounds judgemental, which it probably is, but that's just my view. Of course, but I would say it'd be easier to speak to a girl who used to be a guy. Think of how many girls that enjoy to sit back and watch sports with a cold bear. Obviously, I don't like that, but eh. Some dudes do. i wouldn't date a transexual either, Pre-op or Post-op. I don't see the attraction but the subject is interesting, you can't interrogate them, but human thoughts, reasons, expressions and experiences are fascinating
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The Grimoire	Feb 16 2009, 09:49 AM Post #17
Posts: 201 Group: Member Member #3,733 Joined: October 8, 2008 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball Multiverse	Rebel X Feb 13 2009, 04:21 AM I think it really depends on the kind of relationship you developed with the person that was trans-gendered. If I was hanging out with friends and I knew one of them was trans-gendered Id respect them. If I'm on this "Real World show" then alot could've happened so, I think the time and relationship would decide on how my reaction turns-out ^ Pretty much what he said
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~~Kudo~~	Feb 17 2009, 02:29 PM Post #18
Posts: 68 Group: Suspended Member #3,930 Joined: January 20, 2009 What Browser do you use? IE	I would either punch or kick them. I am the alpha male! gimme the trophy. In all seriousness..... I don't like the whole trans gender movement.



Rockman	Feb 18 2009, 04:12 AM Post #19
hoighty-toighty Posts: 11,070 Group: Guardian Member #48 Joined: December 17, 2004 Gender Male Country United States What Browser do you use? Firefox, when it isn't crashing.	Kudo Feb 17 2009, 02:29 PM I would either punch or kick them. I am the alpha male! gimme the trophy. In all seriousness..... I don't like the whole trans gender movement. Trans-gender thinking can be compared to hetero and homo sexuality. I'd go into how important the size of your hypothalamus is, but it'd just confuse people and no one would listen to me.
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Temphis	Feb 18 2009, 04:30 AM Post #20
Rampaging Explosion of Euphoric Glory! Posts: 1,223 Group: Member Member #3,903 Joined: January 6, 2009 Gender Male Favourite Anime Ghost in the Shell: S.A.C., Katananagari, Mushishi, Full Metal: Brotherhood, CowboyBeebop, Monster What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Gantz, Berserk, One Punch Man, Dragon Ball, One Piece, Attack on Titan, Re: Monster, (no more room)	I feel it's hard for most people to communicate or feel comfortable around transgendered people because as part of our social life, we are taught how to act around certain genders, and when someone has "changed" gender, it creates a mumble jumble of contridicting behaviors. I think it's normal to not know how to act around transgendered people, because we have a hard time communicating certain statuses. Gender, for example, is a Master Status, that does not change. however, when people get a "sex change", that master status becomes more based on how individuals view it, which can contridict from person to person, thus making us udecided on how to act around them. according to spychology there are certain characteristics that are exclusivly gender based, and those don't change with sex changes, so they are still in fact a male (as a person) but they are considered a female (by law). these contridicting statuses make it just complicated. I've seen a transvestite before, but their sex change wasn't very convincing.... it was not pretty by either standard of a male or female.... I didn't interact with him (unless it was an "It"), nor did I have as strong a desire to, simply because I was unsure how to act, so I avoided him/it. what makes it hard to pick one gender to think of them as is that you don't know how they percieve themselves. some transexuals get offended if you refer to them as their original gender, though that is what they are as a person.



Strawberry	Feb 18 2009, 04:46 AM Post #21
Chiaroscuro ♥ Posts: 17,000 Group: Rock Princess Member #1,750 Joined: September 24, 2006	I think a good way to approach someone who is transgendered is to express directly you respect their choice and you would love to learn more about them. I find sex change just a proof of how complex the human mind is, it intrigues me because as much as I study it, I can never experience the feelings that go through transgendered people minds when they decide to switch genders. The whole sex change process just seems so heavy psichologically (physically too, but that's too obvious to point out). Of course socially the way people see transgendered people will never be consensual, but I believe the best way to deal with it is to be respectful and prioritize equality in terms of rights and positions in society. I'm completely sick of discrimination.
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Rockman	Feb 18 2009, 04:49 AM Post #22
hoighty-toighty Posts: 11,070 Group: Guardian Member #48 Joined: December 17, 2004 Gender Male Country United States What Browser do you use? Firefox, when it isn't crashing.	Dr. House Feb 18 2009, 04:12 AM and no one would listen to me. Did I not call it? Do the research yourselves. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1200/is_n9_v140/ai_11315232 http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/neuro/neuro01/web1/Rana.html http://allpsych.com/journal/homosexuality.html http://www.reproduction-online.org/cgi/content/abstract/17/1/173
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Strawberry	Feb 18 2009, 04:56 AM Post #23
Chiaroscuro ♥ Posts: 17,000 Group: Rock Princess Member #1,750 Joined: September 24, 2006	When it comes to get people confused you sometimes make it easy. I'm interested in what you have to say, but make sure you know how to say it, specially since you're aware there's a chance people will ignore it.
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Rockman	Feb 18 2009, 04:58 AM Post #24
hoighty-toighty Posts: 11,070 Group: Guardian Member #48 Joined: December 17, 2004 Gender Male Country United States What Browser do you use? Firefox, when it isn't crashing.	Strawberry Feb 18 2009, 04:56 AM When it comes to get people confused you sometimes make it easy. I'm interested in what you have to say, but make sure you know how to say it, specially since you're aware there's a chance people will ignore it. They don't call me Dr. House for nothing. Quote: Do the research yourselves. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1200/is_n9_v140/ai_11315232 http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/neuro/neuro01/web1/Rana.html http://allpsych.com/journal/homosexuality.html http://www.reproduction-online.org/cgi/content/abstract/17/1/173
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Strawberry	Feb 18 2009, 05:05 AM Post #25
Chiaroscuro ♥ Posts: 17,000 Group: Rock Princess Member #1,750 Joined: September 24, 2006	This is my probably my last post here since I'm going completely off topic. I just wanted to say... remember this is a DBZ forum, and even though I find it fantastic that you're able to discuss some topics using scientific knowledge (including vocabulary) and though I admire how articulated and clever you are, sometimes things just work better when you speak to everybody, no matter their background. Thanks for the links.
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Rockman	Feb 18 2009, 03:18 PM Post #26
hoighty-toighty Posts: 11,070 Group: Guardian Member #48 Joined: December 17, 2004 Gender Male Country United States What Browser do you use? Firefox, when it isn't crashing.	Kudo Feb 17 2009, 02:29 PM I would either punch or kick them. I am the alpha male! gimme the trophy. In all seriousness..... I don't like the whole trans gender movement. It's not a movement. It's been around forever. It just wasn't possible to change your genitals back then though without making the person bleed to death.
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Meowth	Feb 18 2009, 03:32 PM Post #27
=._.= Posts: 130,670 Group: Princess Member #23 Joined: November 22, 2004 Gender Female Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Fruits Basket	Temphis Feb 18 2009, 04:30 AM Gender, for example, is a Master Status, that does not change. however, when people get a "sex change", that master status becomes more based on how individuals view it, which can contridict from person to person, thus making us udecided on how to act around them. according to spychology there are certain characteristics that are exclusivly gender based, and those don't change with sex changes, so they are still in fact a male (as a person) but they are considered a female (by law). these contridicting statuses make it just complicated. For those who have sex change for medical reasons, then the chances are that person feels inside their mind that they are the gender they want to become and the one they have lived their lives in the body as is not the correct gender for them. Therfor as a person, they are the oposite of their physical self and it's also key to point out women also undergo sex change to become men, although a male is more likly to, it still happens the other way round. But for the sake of your argument, lets say ManA feels inside that he is female, he doesn't think the same way men are percived to nor does he like the same things and feels that he prefers more femanin things. Therfor you could argue that he thinks like a female so changing their body doesn't change anything but the physical side. I would say that the reasons for a change in thinking is due to enviromental factors as oppose to genetics since it's what has been ingraded into everyones mind as to what activities/intrests are male or female. Quote: some transexuals get offended if you refer to them as their original gender, though that is what they are as a person. But it isn't, as a person, they are the same physcially unless they only had sex change for no reason. Quote: I think a good way to approach someone who is transgendered is to express directly you respect their choice and you would love to learn more about them. Some might not appricate that though, they might just want to get one with their lives like everyone else.



* Psyam	Feb 18 2009, 04:18 PM Post #28
Posts: 1,788 Group: Retired Staff Member #3,439 Joined: May 18, 2008 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime HxH What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga One Piece	I wouldn't treat them any differently, the same way I wouldn't treat a homosexual person or a lesbian any different, it's their choice. I don't see the reasoning in disliking someone or avoiding them for their own personal preferences. However, I dislike the people above (transsexuals, homosexuals, lesbians) who make a big deal over it, like quite a few homosexual people you see on TV (I know most of them aren't like that). Edited by Psyam, Feb 18 2009, 04:19 PM.



~~Kudo~~	Feb 18 2009, 06:29 PM Post #29
Posts: 68 Group: Suspended Member #3,930 Joined: January 20, 2009 What Browser do you use? IE	I gotta ask, if you are born with a dick WHY must you cut it off? You're taking advantage of medical technology. You're just using it for your own selfish needs because you want to change gender. You don't need too. I mean, come one you're changing the gender that manifested onto you when you came out of the whom.. what good can come out of it!? Edited by Kudo, Feb 18 2009, 06:30 PM.



Meowth	Feb 18 2009, 06:38 PM Post #30
=._.= Posts: 130,670 Group: Princess Member #23 Joined: November 22, 2004 Gender Female Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Fruits Basket	I wouldn't say that transgenders are the same as homosexuals since homosexuality can in most cases be a choice you make, the want to change your gender could be a need. http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/gender-dysphoria/Pages/Introduction.aspx?url=Pages/What-is-it.aspx Is one illness, I don't know if there are any others, though there are some people who might do it just because they want to be the opposite sex, then yes, it is their choice. Sexual orentation isn't something you are born with, though I would also say that gender dysphoria isn't something your born with, it's enviromental so in that sense it is the same. Eitherway, it's a serious condition which if not diagnoised/treated can lead onto other illnesses such as depression, anxity and selfharm, probably some others. Depression is understandable if it isn't treated because the person may start to hate themselfs which will lead to selfharm eventually. Which when it all comes down to it is understandable for a person to want to change gender for the sake of their own well being or someone else got them help. It might not be something they will want to open up to either and I'm sure a number of people don't get treatment, being quite a sensitve issue. It shouldn't matter if someone has changed gender, they are still going to be the same person or a better person because they can feel comfertable in expressing themselfs. They are still people at the end of the day and should still be treated like people, problem is, people tend to be quite judgemental about anything they see as diffrent. The issue of dating a transgender person has been brought up, why should it matter, if you love someone, would you brake up with them over something like that? It doesn't change the fact that you loved them, infact it'd be quite shallow, if that's the right word to use. I don't think I have anything more to say, I've not given a solid answer to the opening question yet I know, but you should be able to work it out from my two posts if you have some intelligence and if you're really smart, you'd learn something



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