Gohan vs Janemba vs Gotenks SSJ3 vs Kid Buu

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Gohan vs Janemba vs Gotenks SSJ3 vs Kid Buu
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rmmaniac09	Feb 8 2009, 04:45 PM Post #1
Posts: 148 Group: Member Member #3,896 Joined: January 5, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball/ Z/GT, Gundam 00 What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga DB/Z manga	Who would come out on top. Gohan(Mystic form), Janemba(final form), Kid Buu, or SSJ3 Gotenks. I think it would be: Gohan = Janemba(only if of course Gohan's Ultimate form is stronger than SSJ3) > Kid Buu > SSJ3 Gotenks



* Psyam	Feb 8 2009, 05:01 PM Post #2
Posts: 1,788 Group: Retired Staff Member #3,439 Joined: May 18, 2008 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime HxH What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga One Piece	Janemba is only slightly more powerful then a SSJ3. He only took an advantage over Goku when he got his sword and then Goku ran out of energy. Mystic Gohan is substantially more powerful then a SSJ3. Goku at SSJ3 and Vegeta at SSJ2 together couldn't take Super Buu according to Goku, and Mystic Gohan beat Super Buu easily. Gotenks SSJ3 was about equal, maybe slightly under Super Buu when they fought. Kid Buu could be taken on by Goku, and Goku would have won if he could of reached his full power in SSJ3, but he wasted too much time and energy and wanted to give Vegeta a chance. As Goku couldn't contend with Super Buu, and was a little stronger then Kid Buu, Kid Buu must be weaker then Super Buu, and so also weaker then Gotenks. The only not obvious matchup would be Janemba Vs. SSJ3 Gotenks. If Goku knew he has no chance of beating Super Buu, then Super Buu (who was about equal to SSJ3 Gotenks) must have been quite a bit more powerful then SSJ3 Goku. Janemba was only slightly more powerful then SSJ3 Goku, so Super Buu would beat Janemba, thus so would Gotenks. Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks > Janemba > Kid Buu



Gokulio	Feb 8 2009, 07:02 PM Post #3
Posts: 60 Group: Member Member #3,971 Joined: February 7, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	It would really be down to Gohan and Janemba. Janemba owned SS3 Goku and I'm not sure if Mystic Gohan would beat him. I suppose it could go either way between those two.
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* Itagaki Manabu	Feb 8 2009, 10:02 PM Post #4
Posts: 4,635 Group: Retired Staff Member #832 Joined: November 6, 2005	I agree with Psyam.



DbzNerd	Feb 10 2009, 10:00 PM Post #5
Posts: 355 Group: Member Member #3,761 Joined: October 21, 2008 Favourite Anime hunter x hunter, girls bravo Favourite Manga dbz, hunter x hunter, to love-ru	Janemba is definitely not slightly stronger than SSJ3 Goku he is alot more powerful as he outclassed Goku in every way. Goku only managed to hit Janemba because he's no use 2 his new body & powers yet otherwise it would of been a overkill. I'll definitely rank Janemba equal 2 Super Buu at least. Mystic Gohan > Janemba >= SSJ3 Gotenks > Kid Buu



* Mitas	Feb 10 2009, 10:12 PM Post #6
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	Quote: Mystic Gohan is substantially more powerful then a SSJ3. Goku at SSJ3 and Vegeta at SSJ2 together couldn't take Super Buu according to Goku, and Mystic Gohan beat Super Buu easily. Well for one Gohan only fought Super Buu. When he absorbed Piccolo and Gotenks he became too much of a match for him. SSJ3 Goku and SSJ2 Vegeta fought Kid Buu, who was the strongest of the Buus, much stronger than the one Mystic Gohan fought. SSJ3 Goku could hold his own against Kid Buu so is therefore stronger than Mystic Gohan. I haven't watched the Janemba movie so don't know much about him, but what I've got for you guys is: SSJ3 Goku > Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks Kid Buu was probably a little stronger than SSJ3 Goku, so therefore stronger than Mystic Gohan. Kid Buu > Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks You guys can decide where Janemba fits. Edited by Mitas, Feb 10 2009, 10:15 PM.
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* Psyam	Feb 10 2009, 10:21 PM Post #7
Posts: 1,788 Group: Retired Staff Member #3,439 Joined: May 18, 2008 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime HxH What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga One Piece	Kid Buu isn't the strongest Buu at all. Super Buu with Gohan absorbed is, but even plain Super Buu is stronger then Kid Buu. Evidence: Inside of Buu's body, after pulling all the absorbed people (except Fat/Good Buu), Goku and Vegeta remarked on what a decrease in power Super Buu went through after losing Gohan, Piccolo and the boys. However, when Vegeta suggested to blast their way out, Goku said "Stop! If we go out there right now, he's going to kill us." Goku said that he and Vegeta combined could NOT win against Super Buu. But once he turned into Kid Buu, they were quite happy about taking him on. Imo, Kid Buu is like Super Buu, minus the power of the Kai's that were imprisoned in Good Buu. Before the "Absorbing people made him weaker" comment, yes, it did, but only in his fat state, in which the Jolly Kai was dominating his personality, and power. As Super Buu, he only gains the power, he's not held back by the Kai's, except perhaps being a little less destructive and smarter. Also, when "Mystic" Gohan approached Piccolo and the boys (as they were about to fuse again), Piccolo said "I've never felt a power that big, it's outrageous!", he was on earth when SSJ3 Goku was there, he'd felt both. Super Buu is stronger then Kid Buu, and Gohan owned Super Buu, while Goku at SSJ3 could only equal Kid Buu. Mystic Gohan is the strongest (unfused, fusion including Super Buu's absorbtions) character in DBZ. Anyway, I'm off for tonight, I'll check back tommorow, bye.



* Mitas	Feb 10 2009, 10:34 PM Post #8
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	When they rippedPiccolo, Gohan, Goten and Trunks out of the pods, Super Buu would have just gone back to the state he was against Gohan, before he absorbed anybody. When they ripped out Fat Buu he begins transforming. Goku says "Hey Vegeta, isn't his chi getting bigger...?" So from this we gather he is getting stronger than the Super Buu that fought Mystic Gohan. Once he fully transforms to Kid Buu Supreme Kai explains how the Kais he absorbed in the past tamed him and that Kid Buu is his original, completely evil and uncontrollable state. At no point does it say it is weaker (on the contrary, my quote from Goku shows he gets stronger). So plain Super Buu is not stronger than Kid Buu. If anything, SSJ3 Goku, Kid Buu and Mystic Gohan are all equal. However I stand by my original post.
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DbzNerd	Feb 10 2009, 10:36 PM Post #9
Posts: 355 Group: Member Member #3,761 Joined: October 21, 2008 Favourite Anime hunter x hunter, girls bravo Favourite Manga dbz, hunter x hunter, to love-ru	Mitas SSJ3 Goku > Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks Mystic > SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ3 Goku it was proven in the manga alrdy. Mitas Kid Buu > Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks Mystic > SSJ3 Gotenks > Kid Buu. Mitas You guys can decide where Janemba fits. Mystic > Janemba = Super Buu >= SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ3 Goku >= Kid Buu Mitas When they rippedPiccolo, Gohan, Goten and Trunks out of the pods, Super Buu would have just gone back to the state he was against Gohan, before he absorbed anybody. When they ripped out Fat Buu he begins transforming. Goku says "Hey Vegeta, isn't his chi getting bigger...?" So from this we gather he is getting stronger than the Super Buu that fought Mystic Gohan. I alrdy proved this on some other topic that Buff Buu is weaker than Super Buu. When Mr.Buu was ripped off of Super Buu his power should of dropped down 2 that of Evil Buu seeing that Super Buu's power come from 2 Buu's combine so without 1 he should only b equal 2 the 1 that is left and thats Evil Buu. So there 4 he was only increasing his power from Evil Buu's not Super Buu's. Super Buu > Buff Buu > Evil Buu. Mitas Once he fully transforms to Kid Buu Supreme Kai explains how the Kais he absorbed in the past tamed him and that Kid Buu is his original, completely evil and uncontrollable state. At no point does it say it is weaker (on the contrary, my quote from Goku shows he gets stronger). So plain Super Buu is not stronger than Kid Buu. If anything, SSJ3 Goku, Kid Buu and Mystic Gohan are all equal. However I stand by my original post. Definitely wrong. When any forms of Buu absorb a fighter he gets stronger. When Kid Buu absorb the Western Kaioshins and turns into Buff Buu he got stronger, when he absorb Dai Kaioshin and turn into Majin Buu he got stronger but was easier 2 control, and when he absorb any of the the main cast he gotten stronger. You have the manga u should reread the Kid Buu saga and it should clear things up. Edited by DbzNerd, Feb 10 2009, 10:46 PM.



hidan fan	Feb 10 2009, 11:17 PM Post #10
Posts: 146 Group: Member Member #3,866 Joined: December 21, 2008 Favourite Anime dbz,naruto,yuyuhakusho,inuyasha,rurouni kenshin,bleach	I would have to say kidbuu do to the fact he never gets tired and will keep coming.and his overall destructive nature.



* Itagaki Manabu	Feb 11 2009, 12:33 AM Post #11
Posts: 4,635 Group: Retired Staff Member #832 Joined: November 6, 2005	Mitas Feb 10 2009, 10:12 PM SSJ3 Goku > Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks Kid Buu was probably a little stronger than SSJ3 Goku, so therefore stronger than Mystic Gohan. Kid Buu > Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks You guys can decide where Janemba fits. I think it is true that Kid Buu was stronger than SSJ3 Goku but SSJ3 Gotenks is definitly stronger than SSJ3 Goku. SSJ3 Gotenks maybe around the same power as Kid Buu But Mystic Gohan is the strongest, he is the strongest Non-Fused Character. Janemba was also proberbly around the same as Kid Buu and SSJ3 Gotenks. Mystic Gohan> Kid Buu = Janemba = SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ3 Goku.



rmmaniac09	Feb 11 2009, 01:01 AM Post #12
Posts: 148 Group: Member Member #3,896 Joined: January 5, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball/ Z/GT, Gundam 00 What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga DB/Z manga	This just made things a lot more confusing. So buu got stronger everytime he absorbed the Kai's right? So that means Fat Buu is the strongest form? But then didn't SSJ3 Goku knocked Fat Buu around like it was nothing?



DbzNerd	Feb 11 2009, 06:04 AM Post #13
Posts: 355 Group: Member Member #3,761 Joined: October 21, 2008 Favourite Anime hunter x hunter, girls bravo Favourite Manga dbz, hunter x hunter, to love-ru	Yes Buu always get stronger everytime he absorbs some1 even the Kais. Fat Buu is not the strongest form but he should of been equal to Super Buu because in the manga when Majin Buu turned to Super Buu, Piccolo only stated he has a better fighter body + much eviler aura and nothing about his power increasing. Goku indeed knocked around Majin Buu but Majin Buu was only playing around and nvr gotten serious like when he trashed Majin Vegeta. Goku's statement about him being able 2 destroy Majin Buu has 2 much holes and shouldn't b used since he admit that he couldn't beat Majin Buu then later said he could.. it just doesn't make sense. Mystic Gohan > Jamemba >= SSJ3 Gotenks > Kid Buu



The Grimoire	Feb 11 2009, 06:22 AM Post #14
Posts: 201 Group: Member Member #3,733 Joined: October 8, 2008 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball Multiverse	SSJ3 Goku Mystic Gohan Super Buu Janemba Mystic Gohan > Janemba > SSJ3 Goku > SSJ3 Gotenks > Super Buu
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* Psyam	Feb 11 2009, 03:44 PM Post #15
Posts: 1,788 Group: Retired Staff Member #3,439 Joined: May 18, 2008 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime HxH What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga One Piece	Mitas Feb 10 2009, 10:34 PM When they ripped out Fat Buu he begins transforming. Goku says "Hey Vegeta, isn't his chi getting bigger...?" So from this we gather he is getting stronger than the Super Buu that fought Mystic Gohan. They said this when Super Buu transformed briefly into what people call "Buff Buu", this is the form he took after absorbing the STRONGEST of the Kai's. In this form he looks like Super Buu but with over expanded muscles. They meant that when he became Buff Buu he was like Super Buu but with added Kai power, which had lain dormant in the Fat Buu. However, when he transforms into Kid Buu his power then goes back down again, as he loses the power of the Kai's. Each absorption did make Buu stronger, but when he absorbed the fat, jolly Kai, the Kai greatly changed Buu's personality (and body), so that while in his Fat Buu state he still had all that power, he couldn't bring it out fully in less he got mad. Fat Buu had all the power and personality of the Kai's absorbed inside him, so when he was removed Super Buu went through the transformations in absorbing them in reverse. So he went Super Buu to Buff Buu (at which point they say he's stronger) but then lost that power and went back to his original, weaker form. It is confusing, but the easiest way to think about it in my opinion is just thinking of Fat/Good Buu as the two Kai's that were absorbed. Super Buu - Fat/Good Buu means he loses the power (and stable mind) of the Kai's, making him both weaker and insane again. Just to add, the fact that Goku says HIMSELF that he and Vegeta coulden't possibly beat Super Buu, but was able to fight even with and possibly even beat Kid Buu (if he had been able to reach full power) proves that Super Buu > Kid Buu. Kid Buu is just Super Buu but with no added Kai power (and the strongest Kai was quite strong, he put up a good fight against Kid Buu) The Kai's only made Buu weaker in his fat state, where a lot of his power was suppressed by the Fat Kai's influence. Edited by Psyam, Feb 11 2009, 03:49 PM.



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