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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 27 2009, 03:31 AM (2,110 Views) | |
| hidan fan | Jan 27 2009, 03:31 AM Post #1 |
 
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lssj broly vs bojack (sealed unlocked) vs superperfect cell.who wins this battle. |
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| DbzNerd | Jan 27 2009, 03:35 AM Post #2 |
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SP Cell > Perfect Cell = Bojack >> Cell Jr >> LSSJ Broly |
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| SupersaiyanPopo | Jan 29 2009, 12:24 AM Post #3 |
 
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Ummm.. I'm sorry but I don't think that's true. Broly held his own against SSJJ2 Adult Gohan in Second Coming, so I'd have to say Broly wins, though Cell comes close. |
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| * Itagaki Manabu | Jan 29 2009, 01:48 AM Post #4 |
 
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Naaa he didnt LOL. I agree DbzNerd's ummm diagram abart from the Cell Jrs, LSSJ Broly is proberbly stronger than them or equal. |
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| * Psyam | Jan 29 2009, 05:49 PM Post #5 |
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Bojack is above normal Perfect Cell. Cell had a long battle with SSJ Goku, and SSJ Gohan was equal to Goku if not stronger. Bojack beat the CRAP out of Gohan without even breaking a sweat. Cell only beat SSJ Gohan easily because he wouldn't fight back. I did this versus before but with Dabura added in, most people thought Super Perfect Cell would win I believe, though there was some Broly goers too. I'd say if Broly is from movie 10 he'd win, if Movie 8 then SPC would likely take the match. Just to add in, Broly owned EVERYONE all at the same time, Perfect Cell (before regeneration) would not be able to keep up with SSJ Goku and SSJ Gohan (if he actually went all out) at the same time, as he was only at a small advantage to Goku. Movie 10 Broly > Super Perfect Cell > Movie 8 Broly >= Bojack > Perfect Cell > Cell Jr |
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| rmmaniac09 | Jan 29 2009, 09:38 PM Post #6 |
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Super perfect Cell > LSSJ Broly > Bojack = Perfect Cell > Cell Jr. 1vs1 Gohan vs Bojack, I think Gohan could have at least had some good blows but he was ganged up on so I'll rank Bojack equal with Perfect Cell. As for SPC, he held 4 ki blast and a SSJ2 Kamehameha for a good while. Maybe Broly and Super Perfect Cell are equal in power but I'd say Cell's regenerative abilities and instant transmission gives him the edge. |
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| * Psyam | Jan 29 2009, 09:53 PM Post #7 |
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I agree about SPC and Broly being about equal, so Cell's regeneration and techniques pulls it for me. But if you go with the zenkai thing in Movie 10, Broly was probably superior. I assume this is Movie 8 Broly though, so SPC likely wins. |
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| * Itagaki Manabu | Jan 29 2009, 11:33 PM Post #8 |
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Now that I think about it I think broly would be the strongest. He could take on 4 Super Saiyans and piccolo with ease whilst Perfect Cell could only take on Goku SSJ and be only Slightly winning. I don't think the power Difference from Perfect Cell to Super Perfect Cell would be enough for him to toy with the Super Saiyans and namek. And I think Bojack would probably be about as strong as Super Perfect Cell. Broly > SPC = Bojack > PC. |
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| DbzNerd | Jan 30 2009, 12:42 AM Post #9 |
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SP Cell > Perfect Cell > Bojack > Cell Jr > LSSJ Brolly. SP Cell took on SSJ2 Gohan and manage to injured him. Even though SSJ2 Gohan is not at his prime Cell injuring a SSJ2 is a very good prove of his power. Perfect Cell at full power shocked everyone bsides SSJ2 Gohan. The one that MSSJ Goku fought was not Cell's full power only a portion. Bojack is weaker than Perfect Cell full power seeing that he can't even withstand a single blow from SSJ2 Gohan while Perfect Cell took a very tough beating. Cell Jr was stated by Perfect Cell that they r as strong as him (Perfect Cell in his portion of his power). Cell Jr was able to fight and held their own against USSJ Trunks & Vegeta. LSSJ Brolly is by far the weakest seeing that he can't even beat a MSSJ Teen Gohan who was stated to b weaker than when he was a Kid. |
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| * Psyam | Jan 31 2009, 10:37 PM Post #10 |
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Bojack died faster then Cell because Gohan didn't hold back on him. Gohan just wanted to get rid of Bojack. The same did not apply for Cell, Gohan held back on Cell to make him suffer for all the hurt he'd caused. Gohan could have wiped Perfect Cell out in one attack if he wanted to. Goku told Gohan to kill Cell and he said he wanted him to suffer first. Broly took on all the Super Saiyans and Piccolo at the same time in movie 8 and totally wasted them, they coulden't even hurt him. A full force kamehameha from Goku to Broly from right in front of him didn't even scratch him, you could see the shock on Goku's face. The same on Cell blew off his upper body and head. SSJ Gohan in movie 10 did NOTHING to Broly in his LSSJ state. He didn't have a chance. Broly was killed by a combined kamehameha (which multiplies the users power by about 2.5) from Gohan, Goten AND Goku. Imo, reality wise in both movies 8 and 10, Broly should have won. But they can't let the good guys lose can they? Movie 8 Broly is vastly stronger then Perfect Cell (pre-regeneration) with the above kept in mind. In movie 10 he should have been even stronger from the near death state he was in due to his saiyan DNA. Just the bolded part is enough to show that movie 8 Broly canes Perfect Cell. Super Perfect Cell would beat movie 8 Broly, his power went up a LOT. But with Movie 10 Broly also having a power boost, I think Broly from movie 10 would beat SPC. P.S. I'm not a Broly fan. I don't even like him. I'm just stating how I see it. Edited by Psyam, Jan 31 2009, 10:41 PM.
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| rmmaniac09 | Jan 31 2009, 11:05 PM Post #11 |
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I agree. |
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| DbzNerd | Jan 31 2009, 11:35 PM Post #12 |
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NO even if SSJ2 Gohan was holding back against Perfect Cell he was still able to take a rough beating from a SSJ2 that is a fact, while Brojack couldn't even beat major characters without ganging them up. He can't even withstand 1 punch from Base Goku BASE GOKU Perfect Cell used a portion of his strength against MSSJ Goku and if he had went Full power he would of killed him with ease. That is because every1 in movie 8 r only normal SSJ. Vegeta/Trunks was not USSJ, Goku/Gohan was not MSSJ. Prove, Gohan is stronger than Goku but Gohan couldn't even last 1 sec against Brolly yet he b the last man standing not Goku. Goku even told him 2 run yet it would of been the opposite, Goku would of said "Gohan u stay and fight I'll leave everything up 2 u" flys away. But yet u ignore the fact that LSSJ Brolly couldn't even beat up a weak MSSJ adult Gohan and was killed by 2/3 SSJs and in movie 10 it even proved to us that every1 in movie 8 was only normal SSJ. In movie 8 If Gohan was MSSJ then it would only b logic that a MSSJ adult Gohan who was stated to b weaker than when he was a Kid wouldn't even last 1 sec just like in movie movie 8 yet u c him holding his own.. The near death experience boost was removed after Freiza saga. Brolly movie 8 = Brolly movie 10. Me 2 I hate Brolly beacause people kept overestimating him. SP Cell > Perfect Cell > Bojack > Cell Jr > LSSJ Brolly |
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| * Psyam | Feb 1 2009, 12:07 AM Post #13 |
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Why would Gohan and Goku not be mastered super saiyans in movie 8? The first Broly movie is supposed to take place in the days just before the Cell games. Cell coulden't take a beating at all. Every attack he tried failed, Gohan deflected all of them effortlessly. One punch was all it took to make Cell have a complete break down. That one attack was so bad that he spat out #18. And it wasn't even a very strong punch. Gohan put a HOLE through Bojack, and within 10 seconds Bojack was powering up his ultimate attack. Bojack didn't need to gang up on anyone, once transformed he was much stronger then MSSJ Gohan. But why bother if he didn't have too? Frieza never fought anyone in till he was out of henchmen, despite the fact he could wipe them all out easily before Goku. Base Goku landed a good hit on Bojack for a number of reasons. 1. First and foremost, it's a movie. They don't always make sense in terms of how characters can hurt/fight other characters when they should be much weaker. Result of Akira not making the films. 2. Goku put everything he had into it, like when Piccolo kicked final form Frieza away to save Goku. He had to save his son. 3. It was a complete surprise attack, Bojack's defences were down.
Again, because it's a film. Not much more to say. Also, they wanted Goku to be the hero, as Gohan didn't take over in till the Cell games.
I seem to remember Gohan losing pretty bad to Broly. I did watch that film about a year ago though, so I accept that its possible I'm wrong.
I think you have to remember that, at the end of the day, it was entertainment. If Gohan had been wiped out straight away they wouldn't of had a long enough movie. If you had to put some kind of explanation on it, I suppose Gohan might have been more aware of what Broly could do this time around and been more careful.
I seem to remember a certain green android getting a near death experience boost, and a big one too.
I know, but I'm really trying not to. I just think your overestimating Perfect Cell before regeneration. Edited by Psyam, Feb 1 2009, 12:09 AM.
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| DbzNerd | Feb 1 2009, 12:36 AM Post #14 |
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The reason why they r not MSSJ is because they didn't maintain their SSJ transformation in the begining of the movie. If it is between the Cell game time they would of been SSJ every single minute.What do u mean Cell couldn't take a beating !!!! he was getting hes butt kick by SSJ2 Gohan and unlike Brojack who couldn't take 1 Hit from SSJ2 Gohan. Cell is stronger because he took a very tough beating and manage not 2 get anyholes busted on him from SSJ2 Gohan while Brojack is 1 KOed if we don't add the dumb clashing of the Ultimate moves. Brojack Ultimate attack is not even surpose 2 block SSJ2 Gohan's Kamehameha Wave if we use logic and think about. The Goku part I'll agree with u but Perfect Cell > Brojack if we compare how SSJ2 Gohan handle the 2. I agree with u that the movie wanted Goku 2 b the hero but we can't ignore the fact that they were only normal SSJs. No ur memery is good but this MSSJ adult Gohan who was suppose 2 b weaker than when he was a Kid still took on Brolly like a camp not like in movie 8 were he was 1 KOed. That is because in movie 8 Gohan was not a MSSJ only a regular SSJ. The only reason Gohan manage to live that long is because Brolly is weak. Green android?? Cell only at his portion of his strength he manage to beat Goku who was giving his all 2 kill Cell. At his full power every1 was spooked 2 the point that they thought it was the end of the world bsides SSJ2 Gohan. If u still call that weak then I don't know what 2 say. |
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| * Psyam | Feb 1 2009, 12:47 AM Post #15 |
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Bojack had a hole punched through him, full force by Gohan, and he recovered, Cell got a weak punch to the stomach and it totally disabled him. What i'm saying is that Bojack took a stronger punch and reacted much better then Cell did. Bojack was destroyed much faster, but like I said, Gohan wanted to make Cell suffer, and I think the movie makers wanted to stress just how insanely strong SSJ2 Gohan was. They have to be MSSJ in Movie 8 because the only time when Gohan is super saiyan but not MSSJ is in the Time Chamber, and we know they didn't come out of there at any point till they finished. The way they started with black hair was a mistake by the movie makers.
I ment Cell of course, in response to your saying that Zenkai's were removed after Frieza saga. Or do you disagree that Cell powered up after he blew himself up because of his saiyan DNA? Edit: But yeah it's kinda pointless us debating because we're both concrete on our sides lol, the only way to resolve this is if some other people put in their opinions. Edited by Psyam, Feb 1 2009, 12:48 AM.
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