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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 19 2009, 02:11 AM (1,297 Views) | |
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Jan 19 2009, 04:24 PM Post #16 |
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Yeah no ***** punxx, you can't be born with an opinion Most white Americans are mediocre crass mindless consumers, most black Americans are annoying, loud, and economically incompetent, most Jews are pushy, whiny, and cheap, most Asians are quiet, inoffensive, and good at school, most Chicanos bring their whole family everywhere with them in one car, including cousins and grandparents, etc. Even if you are committed to being non-racist, it is a very good idea to keep racism in your personal psychological arsenal for the simple fact that most people of all races are racist, so you may find yourself in situations where being "racist" at a simple awareness level will be a useful survival instinct. It's called the facts of life, people. No one is born equal. |
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Jan 19 2009, 04:40 PM Post #17 |
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It is not that easy though, aside from being emotianally attached to some place; there's always the fact of not being able to afford more expensive housing. Personally I wouldn't want to leave the neighbourhood, there's every necesity from conveniant stores, to resntrants to banks right around the corner of the block.
Nah, we have alot in common Italians and Scots. We are annexed to the same continent, Europe is if you don't mind me saying; the ancestry of white people right? So yeah, I'm sure when Italians arrived in Canada from the old country, there were many many Scots already here. The British did discover Canada after all right? Although again, I may get deep; when Italians came to Canada they rarley started trouble on the streets and they were known to be hard workers.
Like I said, I'm not surprised. What is the official language of Canada; English or Italian? Don't forget though in both Canada and the USA Italians are majorly centered around the east coast. hence here is my cities demographics.
How did you bring Scots into this debate... If I see a scot in the street I won't be able to tell he's a scot judging by his skin color though. Haze; I understand Edited by .Punxx, Jan 19 2009, 04:48 PM.
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| Tomdoodle | Jan 19 2009, 11:15 PM Post #18 |
 
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Why that's because you are, lad. |
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Jan 20 2009, 03:48 PM Post #19 |
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Well then I'm glad this topic is not getting out of hand. If ussjtrunks and Haze can agree with me on to an extent it makes me feel that I'm not just shooting my mouth out of the sheerest stupidity. Although I wish this deep discusion was not about me only. 
Edited by .Punxx, Jan 20 2009, 03:49 PM.
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| * -Zero- | Jan 22 2009, 05:48 PM Post #20 |
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There's no way I'll be reading everything. But its ignorant to be racist no matter how it got there. ALL races have the bad and the good people. Like for example over 90% of serial killers are white, see what I'm getting at? All races have the bad and the good people |
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| Damaged | Jan 23 2009, 08:01 AM Post #21 |
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I'm not a racist at all man, i pity racist people. My grandmother is from Papua New Guinea, and most of my family are dark skinned, most of the people i gew up as a child with are dark skinned, they're all my cousins and family. |
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| Kōtetsu | Jan 23 2009, 05:32 PM Post #22 |
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That doesn't mean that you can't be racist you know. "Oh I have black friends so I can't be racist!" is not a valid argument. I mean, I'm not saying that you are racist, but I am saying just because some of your faimly, frinds, causins etc are black or whatever, you can still be racist. And black people aren't the only ones who people are racist towards, which is kind of what you are implying. I could go through racial slurs for asians, east asians, diffrent euopean countries and so forth, there is a list on the internet somewhere. Racism isn't only directed at black/dark skinned people. |
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| Replica | Jan 23 2009, 06:12 PM Post #23 |
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To go on what Kotetsu just said, racism is more than than just being friends with some people of one nationality, or one color. It goes further than that and goes so far that I believe that everyone is a little racist. No matter where you live, in what part of the world, I can almost gaurantee that there is a particular kind of person/race that the others make fun of for some reason or another. Some even make fun of other races they they don't really know much about. The second you take part in anything along these lines, even if you poke fun at someone who drives a rice rocket, or making fun of a certain race because they live in a certain part of town or whatever, your taking part in racism. Even though it might be all in good humor and no one has their feelings hurt this time, it still contributes to racism and some people even find the most harmless jokes offensive. |
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| * Mitas | Jan 23 2009, 10:12 PM Post #24 |
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If instead of racism you use the word Stereotyping (which Racism falls under) then everyone stereotypes, which is just as bad as racism. Racism, Ageism, Sexism and everything else are all just as bad as eachother and they all fall under the category of stereotyping. So you can say "I'm not a racist", good for you, but there is no doubt that you have stereotyped at one point in your life which is exactly the same as racism, just to a different group of people. The only reason racism is seen as worse is because it basically down to the fact that it has had more coverage. The things that happend to disabled and homosexual people are just as bad as what happened to people with different coloured skin, yet people haven't taken as much notice of it until recently. |
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| * -Zero- | Jan 24 2009, 02:05 PM Post #25 |
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I'm sorry to say this SSJ-Mitas and no offense to homosexual got nothing against them, but black people went through ALOT worst than homosexual people. Just go back to the times of the slaves that will tell you enough |
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| Meowth | Jan 24 2009, 02:52 PM Post #26 |
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Depends on what you want to define as bad. I know this is a diffrent subject altogether but I think I'm going to bring it up anyway. Although I don't disagree that slvary is bad, homosexuals did and do go through what I would class as worse in some countries and used to in some of the more cilalised countries. In some countires is was/is illigal to be gay, it was at one point in some countries deemed to be worse than some of the crimes you would think where worse, can you imagin what they would go through? Being a homosexual in some countries is punishable by death, to be threatend with death because of your sexual orenentation is pretty bad. It all depends where your personal morals are I guess, but I would say slavery is as bad as being killed because you're a homosexual. And on another note, the slave trade was a long time ago, I mean yes it's bad but the majority of black people don't go through that anymore, in some countries homosexuals are still killed. Nither is right and nither should be overlooked or deemed worse than the other. I don't think being black was ever illigal, although people in majority white countries didn't like living next to other races, probably the same with majority black countries, I don't think they liked living next to a white person. Just for simple terms, I mean I could include asians and all the other races but you probably get the picture.
An over qualified person with a disability is less likly to get a job than someone who is of a minority ethnic group, which is why you no long have to disclose most things to a company. Equal oppatunites and all that, I don't think homosexuals are less likly to get a job, but they might find it uncomfertable in some places. I don't know much about how disabled people are discriminated against, I know they are and are less likly to get a job. I've not heard anything that could be as bad as the slave trade for disabled people though, please correct me if I'm wrong. |
 
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| * Mitas | Jan 24 2009, 03:35 PM Post #27 |
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I know what Black people went through in the times of slavery and after that, I studied the Civil Rights movement and it's origins for my A Level in History. But homosexuals have gotten treatment that was just as bad. In a lot of countries it was illegal and in the majority of those it resulted i nthe death penalty. In most African countries it still does result in the death penalty, or imprisonment for a very lengthy time. No doubt they were treated just as bad in the streets as black people were, it's just that homosexuals tended to not let people know their sexual orientation back then. Like I said, the only reason black people were said to have gone through worse is because there was more coverage on it, plus they couldn't hide away their skin colour like homosexuals could hide their sexuality. As for disabled people, I can only imagine that in the past they recieved similar treatment e.g abuse in the street, less likely to get jobs or even abandoned by family members. |
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| * -Zero- | Jan 24 2009, 03:44 PM Post #28 |
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You make good points, but I am almost positive that in some countries black people are still treated pretty bad also. So you really can't say one is worst than the other As for the being killed for being homosexual yes that's terrible, but dont forget sometimes being tortured is as bad as being killed |
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| Meowth | Jan 24 2009, 04:06 PM Post #29 |
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Black people probably do still get treated badly in some countries, but they also get treated badly in their own countries because of messed up religious belifes in some places. A white person is probably going to get treated badly in a majority black countrie, or a white christian woman in a majority muslim country. I could go on, the point I'm trying to make though is that it's not just black people who get treated badly, you notice it more in a majority white places. I've not said one is worse than the other though, you did originally, are you retracting that? Homosexuals got/get tortured as well as killed though, imagin going through school being homosexual, kids have killed themselfs because they have been bullied because of their orientation, that's definiatly something compared to the slave trade. You can't say one is worse than the other really, I would say homosexual still get treated badly especilly in secondary/high school. |
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| * -Zero- | Jan 24 2009, 04:29 PM Post #30 |
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I admit I was wrong when I said black people had it than homosexual , but when I said it I was referring to USA, which is true, i wasn't referring to other countries |
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