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how did Freizza survive a Sprirt Bomb?; I don't know if this one has an answer..
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Temphis Jan 14 2009, 02:28 AM Post #1
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when Vegeta touched goku's spirit bomb, it went inside of him and pretty much fried him from the inside out. it also hurt Vegeta based on his "evil Chi", I'm assuming. the one Goku used on Freizza was almost the size of the moon, and not only did it hit freizza, but the moron tried to push it back?!?!?! how dose that work if it goes inside of you!!?!!? even MORE so with Buu, but I'm assuming if there is an answer to this it would explain both circumstances. Also, Freizza seemed almost undaunted by the Spirit Bomb.....can someone explain how this is even remotely possible if was given a description of what it did, and was shown doing that on vegeta, but not on other, more evil people?
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Jiku Jan 14 2009, 06:51 AM Post #2
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The small hand Spirit Bomb seems to go inside anyone then send them flying. Im not sure the damage is based on evil energy, but Im not sure. The large spirit bomb doesn't go inside of you, but Frieza feel inside of hit until he hit the core of the bomb, causing it to explode. The spirit bomb did do some great damage to frieza: cutting part of his tail off, knocking the breath out of him, and just dealing some great damage. I would assume that the large spirit bomb is controllable so thats why Frieza and Buu can try to resist it. In Buu's case, Goku added extra power to the bomb and Buu was done for.

Ultimately I beleive that the small spirit bomb has different principals of use as opposed to the large one. Not exactly sure what changes but thats my guess. Then theres the simple answer: Vegeta being fried by the small one was cool, Freiza trying to stop it but failed was cool, and Buu trying to stop it but failed was cool and made the show awesome.
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yeah, I didn't like how he tried to stop it, I don't think it was very smart. "oh look, big floating energy ball of DOOM foating towards me at 5 miles an hour. maybe I can push it back....nope it's too big and won't budge, but maybe if I keep pushing instead of moving out of the way, I can somehow survive...." thats probably what was going through freizzas head at the time.....not a very good strategy. well, his tail was cut off by krillin, not the spirit bomb, and he didn't really get weakened a whole lot by it. I think maybe he burrowed underground or somthing until the spirit bomb dissapated. I dunno, it was ridiculaus no matter what way I look at it.
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I think he tried to repel it simply to prove he could. He wouldn't want to be thought of as a coward for running away. And the reason he survived it was because he was just too tough; he later survives being cut in half, blasted away, and a planet blowing up from under him. His skin is like armor in his final form.

btw Frieza's tail grew back after Krillin cut it off when he made his final transformation.
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I think he tried to repel it simply to prove he could. He wouldn't want to be thought of as a coward for running away. And the reason he survived it was because he was just too tough; he later survives being cut in half, blasted away, and a planet blowing up from under him. His skin is like armor in his final form.

btw Frieza's tail grew back after Krillin cut it off when he made his final transformation.
Yeah good point, Frieza was just one tough dude. He survived through a lot, and convinces you that he could pretty much almost survive through anything, even without any regeneration ability. You would have to be a lot stronger than him and completley blow him up to get rid of him like Trunks did. I always wondered how he managed to survive a very large spirit bomb but after seeing how he survived an exploding planet with less than half his body, I could see why.
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Perhaps Frieza and Buu were capable of creating some sort of barrier that kept the spirit bomb from touching/going inside them. They still got rocked by the tremendous force but manage to avoid what Vegeta went through.
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The reason Freiza survived the Spirit Bomb is because Akira wanted to him to survive the blast or else Goku wouldn't of reached SSJ. Or probably he just wanted to prolong the storyline so he can get more money.

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btw Frieza's tail grew back after Krillin cut it off when he made his final transformation.
I find it strange...very strange that a giant ball, somehow cut off his tail. it's not like the ground would have created enough pressure between it'self and the spirit bomb to pinch off freiza'a tail if "he had strong armor that made him tough" enough to live through a planet exploding. also, living from being cut in half dosn't mean your armor is tough, it means he dosn't bleed, and he dosn't need to breath, which I'm okay with. it's just the whole surviving an attack that previously did somthing entierly different than what it was seen and understood to do.
I think I agree with DBZnerd most. while everyone else is providing interesting ideas about it, I think that one of the series vices is "lack of continuity", and no matter what ya try to say to explain certian things, theres almost always one thing that was said or something that makes it uncertain. thanks for the thoughts, but I'm gonna have to stick with the "Akira didn't want freiza to die yet, so he didn't" theory.
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I'm gonna have to stick with the "Akira didn't want freiza to die yet, so he didn't" theory.
While that is certainly the case it's still important to some of us to try to fill up the holes that we can by providing reasonable explanations.
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As I said before, the Big Spirit Bomb must have different properties as opposed to the small one. Just think: A large Spirit Bomb hitting someone the shooting them into the just as Vegeta was with the small bomb only on a massively larger scale. It would be cool but so outrageously big. And then their the simple fact that Frieza survived because he was meant to.
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I guess your right. It's not like it's that big of a deal either I suppose. all we can do is pretty much try to explain it better than the show did. well, I suppose we have several answers that can coinside, so I won't let it perplex me anymore. thanks for all the thoughts though, if anyone has anymore ideas feel free to post them, I'll still read this if theres new posts lol.
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The reason Freiza survived the Spirit Bomb is because Akira wanted to him to survive the blast or else Goku wouldn't of reached SSJ. Or probably he just wanted to prolong the storyline so he can get more money.

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As I said before, the Big Spirit Bomb must have different properties as opposed to the small one. Just think: A large Spirit Bomb hitting someone the shooting them into the just as Vegeta was with the small bomb only on a massively larger scale. It would be cool but so outrageously big. And then their the simple fact that Frieza survived because he was meant to.
Vegeta was caught off gaurd when he was hit with that spirit bomb. He thought he had escaped the blast when he dodged it the first time but when Gokan deflected it he was not expecting it. So technically, Vegeta never had the chance to try to repel it off like Frieza or Kid Buu.

The reason why Freiza survived the Spirit Bomb from Goku was because there was very little energy in the area that Goku was collecting from. Frieza was also tremendously stronger then Goku at the time too and was still hiding the other 50 percent of his power. The spirit bomb is just like any other energy wave, the enemey can try to repel it but if the energy wave is too strong for the oppenent, it consumes them either destroying/killing/inuring them. Fortunately for Frieza, it only injured him.
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As I said before, the Big Spirit Bomb must have different properties as opposed to the small one. Just think: A large Spirit Bomb hitting someone the shooting them into the just as Vegeta was with the small bomb only on a massively larger scale. It would be cool but so outrageously big. And then their the simple fact that Frieza survived because he was meant to.
Vegeta was caught off gaurd when he was hit with that spirit bomb. He thought he had escaped the blast when he dodged it the first time but when Gokan deflected it he was not expecting it. So technically, Vegeta never had the chance to try to repel it off like Frieza or Kid Buu.

The reason why Freiza survived the Spirit Bomb from Goku was because there was very little energy in the area that Goku was collecting from. Frieza was also tremendously stronger then Goku at the time too and was still hiding the other 50 percent of his power. The spirit bomb is just like any other energy wave, the enemey can try to repel it but if the energy wave is too strong for the oppenent, it consumes them either destroying/killing/inuring them. Fortunately for Frieza, it only injured him.
There was very little energy in the area but Goku got energy from beyond the area. The spirit bomb wasn't big for no reason, it had a massive amount of energy in it that he gathered from beyond the planet, like the stars. The spirit bomb was filled with a ton of energy, and was definitely much stronger than the one used against Vegeta due to it's size. You're right about Frieza being a lot stronger than Goku though, which I think is one of if not the main reason he survived it.
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I know Goku gathered it beyond Namek. But he didn't have sufficient time to gather a lot from outside of Namek. Remember how impatient Frieza was getting? But the bomb was massive, just not strong enough.
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