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World Peace
Topic Started: Jan 10 2009, 06:37 AM (662 Views)
.Punxx
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Let's think honestly about this, is world peace achievable? How, what, where, when??? Or are we better off having an empty planet?
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World peace is not achievable for any sustainable amount of time. I base this assumption on the simple fact that since the dawn of civilization there has never been world peace. People will always go to war because war is in our nature. Be it for money, resources, land, ideological differences, or any other reason, people will find something to fight about.
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If everyone was destroyed there would be world peace.
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Never ever going to happen. Not that I'd like to see it happen either.

Don't worry Punxx, once we finally contact some aliens we will all unite in peace so that we can go kill them.

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World peace is not possible for a number of reasons, religion is one problem because while people have diffrent belifes, there will always be problems unless each religion is going to accept that there could be other possibilities for god.

Race is another issue, there are people who might not admit it but deep down they are slightly racist and wouldn't want to live in a country of people who look diffrent to them.

Greed, leaders will want to gain overall control over the world, people will only try to get into power just for the power and not do anything good with it among other things. Though some people might not be as corrupt as others, as long as there are positions of power there will be corruption.

I mean if everyone is willing to be equal then world peace might exist but it's never going to happen.
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Jan 10 2009, 07:11 PM
World peace is not possible for a number of reasons, religion is one problem because while people have diffrent belifes, there will always be problems unless each religion is going to accept that there could be other possibilities for god.

Race is another issue, there are people who might not admit it but deep down they are slightly racist and wouldn't want to live in a country of people who look diffrent to them.

Greed, leaders will want to gain overall control over the world, people will only try to get into power just for the power and not do anything good with it among other things. Though some people might not be as corrupt as others, as long as there are positions of power there will be corruption.

I mean if everyone is willing to be equal then world peace might exist but it's never going to happen.
Right. Lack of religion would make us a step closer.
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Even if peace is attained, it wouldn't be sustained for any considerable amount of time.

Over the past 1000 years, at most I'd say there were no wars fought for 40-60 years. Between eachother. That's not even a single lifetime anymore for an average UK person.

It's been shown, through history, that people will go to war simply because they cannot agree to disagree. The crusades are a fine example of this. The "You don't worship our God so we kill you" philosophy is pretty wildly used.
The Vietnamese War, JUST to stop communism spread. Couldn't leave them alone and try their own thing.

I don't believe World Peace is unachievable, I just think that nothing lasts forever, and something, or some one, will ruin it.
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All the above reasons given are correct. I would love to see it happen, and just think of all the advancements the world could make in the fields of technology, medicine, and science if their wasn't any war. The trillions of dollars that could go towards other important things instead of developing new more powerful guns, bombs, and missiles. The possibilities are endless and eventually what could have been achieved faster if their was world peace will happen later in this violent world.


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Lack of religion would make us a step closer

I agree with you completley, lack of religion would bring us very close to world peace.

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Don't worry Punxx, once we finally contact some aliens we will all unite in peace so that we can go kill them.

Who's to say every human civilization will unite? :innocent:

I always thought a diversity of norms in the same institutions, was a factor in straying away from peace, or at least it makes our world; for lack of a better word "more corrupt".

oh and Haze, 2 out of 2 posts you made today you were being a total dick face towards me, despite the fact that you can't handle pretending to be a politician, may you please refrain from adding insult to post, or at least refrain insults until you've made a good point. This topic is about world peace; not "Star Wars".


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trillions of dollars that could go towards other important things instead of developing new more powerful guns, bombs, and missiles.

I'd like to counter that and say that by War, an economy may get pumped. I don't know how to explain it because somebody once told me this is why the Vitetnam War was a war meant to be contained, not won.
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.Punxx
Jan 11 2009, 02:58 AM
This topic is about world peace; not "Star Wars".
Yeah, but both are on about the same level of ridiculousness.
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Jan 13 2009, 04:07 AM
.Punxx
Jan 11 2009, 02:58 AM
This topic is about world peace; not "Star Wars".
Yeah, but both are on about the same level of ridiculousness.
say; Dragonball Z and Naruto are on the same level of awesomeness, does that mean I can fill a DBZ topic with "NEJI > SON GOHAN!!!!"

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Edited by .Punxx, Jan 13 2009, 04:38 AM.
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I think it's an interesting topic, I agree with all of the points you guys have made, but I can see world peace happening, though not through peaceful methods. I think of something where the people are oppressed like 1984, or Brave New World where people are "designed". A dystopia would sort of qualify as world peace
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I have never heard of Brave New World or 1984, anyways.
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though not through peaceful methods.
Of course! There has to be a war in order to succsefully achieve world peace, it's basically a matter of "last man standing wins" Sometimes I'm just curious so I think What if the Axis powers conquered the world? we would most probably have world peace; whether it would last long or not is out of this debate but face it, if one power defeats all his opponents will there be much else to fight about?

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but both are on about the same level of ridiculousness.

Again; to an extent peace among national borders is not a ridiculous thought. there was a time when the Roman Empire was considered to be a very large chunk of the living world, let's face it, other than the far east; where else did people of the time consider to be the far ends of the world?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Roman_empire.png/250px-Roman_empire.png
Wouldn't you assume that is alot of land, and arguably compare "today's distance" to "2 BC's distance" and surley it would take more time for them to cross The Roman Empire with their greatest mean of transportation than for us the cross the entire world's equator with our greatest mean of transportation. So we can both agree that we can say the Roman Empire at it's great extent was a big world for the time.

Now as I come to my point I'll bring up the point. Pax Romana; which was a relative time of peace among the Roman territories. it lasted more or less 200 hundred years. Then again back then everybody agreed on something, nowadays we can see China & Iran from our back door, people are all different: who agrees on something?IE; Now we got the neighbouring Spaniards and French who both can't agree on the same levels of government.

It all comes down to sharing common ground, hey let's face it World Peace comes with 2 things: By Force and By Sharing a common ground. I'm in no way saying that what The Third Reich was aiming to achieve was good, because they killed alot of innocent people by doing so, but apart from "Re-Creating the Roman Empire" what Hitler and Mussolini would have accomplished had the Soviets not ruined their day would have been a global empire like the Romans, everybody would have been sharing common grounds, and we would most probably see years of world peace.

I think I stepped in some controversial ground here though.
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Jan 13 2009, 06:10 PM
but I can see world peace happening, though not through peaceful methods.
Then it can only loosly be called "World Peace", I could call Russia a Democracy because they have elections but I would only be using the word in vain.
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