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SSJ Goku vs, SSJ Gohan; Kid Goku DBGT or Gohan during Cell Games
Topic Started: Jan 8 2009, 09:34 PM (1,723 Views)
rmmaniac09
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~I don't know if this has ever been brought up and sorry if it has.
SSJ Goku in DBGT, lets say when fighting Super 17 versus SSJ Gohan when he's fighting cell.
I really don't know who'd I pick to win because they seem evenly matched to me.
What do all of you think?
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Jiku
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I go with GT Goku since he also has access to SS3 and SS4 forms which could quickly defeat Gohan.
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well lets just say he isn't able to transform any higher than Super Saiyan, him and gohan. I probably should have said that in the description.
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Jiku
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I'd still say Goku has the advantage. Gohan would last a good while, but Goku just has the upper hand sense he has more experience under his belt and thats what gives him the edge over Gohan.
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Goku during the buu saga was way stronger than gohan during the cell saga and goku during GT was even stronger than goku during any point in DBZ.

Dabora was said to be about as strong as cell but gohan couldn't beat him. Vegeta said that he could take dabora out easily(which he could) meaning vegeta became stronger or equal (stronger) than gohan from the cell games and of course goku was stronger than vegeta. That makes goku during the buu saga stronger than gohan during the cell saga.

In GT goku fought a guy said to be as strong as majin buu(general something). Goku did a good portion of the fight in his base until the general absorbed some other robots. Being able to fight someone possibly as strong as majin buu in his base shows that he got stronger since DBZ(duh).

So GT goku beats DBZ gohan with ease.
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I say GT Goku would win because when Gohan was a super saiyan his full potential wasn't unleashed. And you have to consider the fact that a lot of time has passed since the cell saga so Goku would be much stronger.
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I think it would be dead even Gohan during the cell Saga is a FPSSJ and Goku in GT could've been a FPSSJ so it is pretty much even, I think what determines it is who wants to win.
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Itagaki Manabu
Jan 10 2009, 06:26 AM
I think it would be dead even Gohan during the cell Saga is a FPSSJ and Goku in GT could've been a FPSSJ so it is pretty much even, I think what determines it is who wants to win.
That's exactly what i was thinking.
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Just because they're both at the same SSJ level does not make them equal. Not even close. SSJ isn't a set power level. It multiplies your base power. The higher levels like SSJ2, SSJ3 simply multiplies base power by a higher factor.

Like Green said, GT Goku fought General Rildo (who was equal power to "Majin Buu") in his BASE form. He was also winning intill Rildo powered up by absorbing robots.

GT Goku SSJ > GT Goku Base >= SSJ3 Goku (Kid Buu fight) > SSJ Gohan (Cell saga)

Goku got ridiculously more powerful over the time from Cell to GT. He could take Gohan out in one punch in his base form in GT, SSJ wouldn't even be needed.
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how do you know Rildo is as strong as majin Buu?
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Goku himself says that Rildo is at least as strong as Majin Buu.

And even disregarding that, it's impossible that Goku didn't get vastly more powerful between Cell and GT anyway.

I mean, if SSJ levels were a set power level, then why would Vegeta say he could trash Dabura when Gohan couldn't and him and Gohan both had the same levels of SSJ? The fact is because Vegeta was much stronger in his base form then Gohan, so his super saiyan forms were too.

And it's the same for this fight. GT Goku is far, far, far stronger in base then Gohan is, so his SSJ would be far stronger as well.
Edited by Psyam, Jan 11 2009, 03:57 PM.
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o ok then, fair enough.
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Jan 11 2009, 03:55 PM
He could take Gohan out in one punch in his base form in GT, SSJ wouldn't even be needed.
Probably is true because in GT, he took out Gohan and Goten when they were controled by Baby and they were both SSJ and Goku wasn't.
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Kid Goku (DBgt) > SSJ Gohan (kid) > SSJ Goku (DBgt).

Nothing said Kid Goku (DBgt) owned Super 17 & Omega Shenrom which in his SSJ4 form couldn't killed. SSJ Gohan > SSJ Goku since Goku didn't kill no 1 major with this form I'll rank him weaker than SSJ Gohan.
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Jan 17 2009, 12:30 PM
Kid Goku (DBgt) > SSJ Gohan (kid) > SSJ Goku (DBgt).

Nothing said Kid Goku (DBgt) owned Super 17 & Omega Shenrom which in his SSJ4 form couldn't killed. SSJ Gohan > SSJ Goku since Goku didn't kill no 1 major with this form I'll rank him weaker than SSJ Gohan.
How can you go by who they killed or not, that doesn't make him weaker. Just beacuse Gohan killed Cell doesn't make him stronger than GT Goku.
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