broly vs majin vegeta

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broly vs majin vegeta
Tweet Topic Started: Jan 8 2009, 01:47 AM (2,069 Views)
rmmaniac09	Feb 17 2009, 10:38 PM Post #16
Posts: 148 Group: Member Member #3,896 Joined: January 5, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball/ Z/GT, Gundam 00 What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga DB/Z manga	I don;t remember a base or SSj majin Vegeta? Majin Vegeta > LSSJ Broly



DbzNerd	Feb 17 2009, 11:52 PM Post #17
Posts: 355 Group: Member Member #3,761 Joined: October 21, 2008 Favourite Anime hunter x hunter, girls bravo Favourite Manga dbz, hunter x hunter, to love-ru	Babidi mind control only grants the user more power & hatred otherwise the person is the same so Vegeta can b in his Base, SSJ, or SSJ2 form. Vegeta while confronting Goku is in his SSJ form but later ascended to SSJ2 when he duels SSJ2 Goku.



hidan fan	Feb 18 2009, 12:53 AM Post #18
Posts: 146 Group: Member Member #3,866 Joined: December 21, 2008 Favourite Anime dbz,naruto,yuyuhakusho,inuyasha,rurouni kenshin,bleach	majin vegeta wins due to babidi's magic given the fact his bones are unbreakable.and vegeta's skill and strength while being under majin influence.but if it drags on he could blow himself up and broly then nobody wins.



ueharakk	Feb 18 2009, 03:57 AM Post #19
Posts: 154 Group: Member Member #3,960 Joined: February 4, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Microsoft Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z	I really doubt that Majin Vegeta Base is stronger than LSSJ Broly. ssj is a 50x multiplyer and LSS is even more. I doubt that Majin vegeta is more than 50x stronger than Broly, because he would have to be more than 50x gohan cuz gohan went ssj. so it doesn't make sense if base vegeta = 50x adult gohan, if he was, he could have taken buu easily.



Temphis	Feb 18 2009, 04:13 AM Post #20
Rampaging Explosion of Euphoric Glory! Posts: 1,223 Group: Member Member #3,903 Joined: January 6, 2009 Gender Male Favourite Anime Ghost in the Shell: S.A.C., Katananagari, Mushishi, Full Metal: Brotherhood, CowboyBeebop, Monster What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Gantz, Berserk, One Punch Man, Dragon Ball, One Piece, Attack on Titan, Re: Monster, (no more room)	discarding streangth values, we know that Majin Vegeta has a huge power boost that wasn't really tested, plus he wasn't at full streangth. it's actually hard to say who would win, but we know Majin Vegeta would make it a draw if he were going to loose. also, we have to consider which "brolly" where talking about. he was seemingly stronger, and somewhat possesed in Brolly Returns, so there might be some dark powers on both sides. my vote is still on Vegeta though. but what about Majin Brolly hu?!?! Ohhhhhhh!.....that would have been cool though, joking aside.



DbzNerd	Feb 18 2009, 06:27 PM Post #21
Posts: 355 Group: Member Member #3,761 Joined: October 21, 2008 Favourite Anime hunter x hunter, girls bravo Favourite Manga dbz, hunter x hunter, to love-ru	SSJ doesn't increases ur power lvl by 50. It was shown to b more than 20-30x but nvr stated 2 b 50. The Majin boost strength value was shown 2 b actually alot seeing that Vegeta flat out stated he need it 2 close the gap between him and Goku. If we go by DBZ standard Vegeta is always surpassed by Goku by a large amount so the Majin strength value increase is huge. Majin SSJ Vegeta > Majin Base Vegeta >= LSSJ Brolly



ueharakk	Feb 19 2009, 02:18 AM Post #22
Posts: 154 Group: Member Member #3,960 Joined: February 4, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Microsoft Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z	DbzNerd Feb 18 2009, 06:27 PM SSJ doesn't increases ur power lvl by 50. It was shown to b more than 20-30x but nvr stated 2 b 50. The Majin boost strength value was shown 2 b actually alot seeing that Vegeta flat out stated he need it 2 close the gap between him and Goku. If we go by DBZ standard Vegeta is always surpassed by Goku by a large amount so the Majin strength value increase is huge. Majin SSJ Vegeta > Majin Base Vegeta >= LSSJ Brolly Goku kaioken x20 >= frieza 50%, ssj power increase has to be above 20x. If you do the math it is closer to 40x, just a lot of people were saying 50x so yeah its not 50x. but not 30x either Vegeta could go ssj2 before the majin powerup. He was far behind goku, but he definitely was 40x weaker than him. Goku is around 2x - 3x as strong as normal vegeta at most, not counting ssj3. so majin powerup = 3x vegeta 3x vegeta <<<<< Lssj broly > adult ssj gohan so a base majin vegeta could take an adult ssj gohan with ease?



Temphis	Feb 19 2009, 02:57 AM Post #23
Rampaging Explosion of Euphoric Glory! Posts: 1,223 Group: Member Member #3,903 Joined: January 6, 2009 Gender Male Favourite Anime Ghost in the Shell: S.A.C., Katananagari, Mushishi, Full Metal: Brotherhood, CowboyBeebop, Monster What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Gantz, Berserk, One Punch Man, Dragon Ball, One Piece, Attack on Titan, Re: Monster, (no more room)	I'm pretty sure Vegeta was only SSJ and not SSJ2 while he was Majin, but Goku was SSJ2. if thats correct, than Majin can be compared to a level of Super forms. Majin LSSJ4 would be like, what x200? I know that dosn't have to do with this, but it's cool to think about.



DbzNerd	Feb 19 2009, 05:27 AM Post #24
Posts: 355 Group: Member Member #3,761 Joined: October 21, 2008 Favourite Anime hunter x hunter, girls bravo Favourite Manga dbz, hunter x hunter, to love-ru	ueharakk Goku kaioken x20 >= frieza 50%, ssj power increase has to be above 20x. If you do the math it is closer to 40x, just a lot of people were saying 50x so yeah its not 50x. but not 30x either I said more than 20-30x not 30x. ueharakk Vegeta could go ssj2 before the majin powerup. He was far behind goku, but he definitely was 40x weaker than him. Goku is around 2x - 3x as strong as normal vegeta at most, not counting ssj3. ??? I don't get what u said here. ueharakk so majin powerup = 3x vegeta 3x vegeta <<<<< Lssj broly > adult ssj gohan Vegeta indeed is that weak but Majin Vegeta is in a different league. Majin Base Vegeta >= LSSJ Brolly > SSJ Adult Gohan. ueharakk so a base majin vegeta could take an adult ssj gohan with ease? Indeed he can because adult SSJ Gohan is very very weak. If the Majin power manage 2 give Vegeta power rivaling Goku's that is alot by DBZ standard because no matter how hard Vegeta tries he can nvr even match Goku's power until the Majin boost. Temphis I'm pretty sure Vegeta was only SSJ and not SSJ2 while he was Majin, but Goku was SSJ2. if thats correct, than Majin can be compared to a level of Super forms. Majin LSSJ4 would be like, what x200? I know that dosn't have to do with this, but it's cool to think about. When Vegeta was given the Majin Symbol he was SSJ but later ascend 2 SSJ2 when dueling SSJ2 Goku. Edited by DbzNerd, Feb 19 2009, 06:23 AM.



* Psyam	Feb 19 2009, 03:10 PM Post #25
Posts: 1,788 Group: Retired Staff Member #3,439 Joined: May 18, 2008 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime HxH What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga One Piece	DbzNerd Feb 19 2009, 05:27 AM If the Majin power manage 2 give Vegeta power rivaling Goku's that is alot by DBZ standard because no matter how hard Vegeta tries he can nvr even match Goku's power until the Majin boost. That is wrong. In general, Goku is not any stronger then Vegeta (excluding GT) when they are in the same form. The only times Goku is stronger is when he is a level above Vegeta (Kaioken, which Vegeta didn't have, or MSSJ or SSJ3). In the first Goku Vs. Vegeta fight, Vegeta was way stronger. Goku was only able to beat him because he had the Kaioken technique. Vegeta's base power was stronger then Goku's. In the Frieza saga, there are times when Vegeta's base is stronger, and times when Goku's is, but it can't be counted because at the time everyone kept going through stupid rapid power changes as the series was supposed to end there. In the Android saga, normal SSJ Vegeta is stronger then normal SSJ Goku (even without heart-virus) by a little bit. Then after Vegeta comes out the time chamber, Goku see's that the 2nd and 3rd grade SSJ forms won't work so he develops the MSSJ, if Vegeta had gone second then he might of done that and Goku might have only gone to 2nd and 3rd grade instead. Later, Goku develops SSJ3 because he can train in otherworld without a body which makes it much easier for him to unlock SSJ3 and train enough that he can take its strain while he has a body. Goku is not stronger then Vegeta. They are practically equal. However, circumstances allow Goku to develop transformations sooner then Vegeta. Despite what Vegeta said, the Majin boost was not that big a power up. He just wanted to be "changed back to the way I was before!", a heartless, cruel person, the ultimate warrior. No way in HFIL (har har) could base Majin Vegeta stand a chance against Broly. Regardless, SSJ2 Majin Vegeta would own this fight easily.



DbzNerd	Feb 19 2009, 03:28 PM Post #26
Posts: 355 Group: Member Member #3,761 Joined: October 21, 2008 Favourite Anime hunter x hunter, girls bravo Favourite Manga dbz, hunter x hunter, to love-ru	Yea Goku definitely finds a way 2 always make Vegeta look inferor. Well now that I changed my ways of Brolly Vegeta definitely can't beat him unless he goes Majin SSJ but Majin SSJ2 is not needed.



Nothing	Mar 18 2009, 07:40 PM Post #27
Posts: 153 Group: Member Member #4,026 Joined: March 13, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox	Broly wins this one. ssj2 Vegeta is powerfull,especially with majin power, but LSSJ Broly would still rip his head off. Gohan was ssj2 in movie 10, altough it appears he wasn't. If he was anything less than ssj2, Broly would have defeated him in 1 punch.(Rewatch movie 8 and see just how easily even the advanced super saiyan was cast down,and in movie 10 Broly's power was higher than it was in movie 8, since he recovered from heavy wounds.) My conclusion is that if Gohan wasn't ssj2 in movie 10 he would got annihilated very fast. Edited by Nothing, Mar 18 2009, 07:43 PM.



* Psyam	Mar 20 2009, 04:14 PM Post #28
Posts: 1,788 Group: Retired Staff Member #3,439 Joined: May 18, 2008 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime HxH What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga One Piece	DbzNerd Feb 19 2009, 03:28 PM Yea Goku definitely finds a way 2 always make Vegeta look inferor. Well now that I changed my ways of Brolly Vegeta definitely can't beat him unless he goes Majin SSJ but Majin SSJ2 is not needed. I agree that SSJ2 woulden't even be needed. Just SSJ would be enough. I expect Vegeta would go SSJ2 just to gloat and have his revenge, though. Quote: Broly wins this one. ssj2 Vegeta is powerfull,especially with majin power, but LSSJ Broly would still rip his head off. Gohan was ssj2 in movie 10, altough it appears he wasn't. If he was anything less than ssj2, Broly would have defeated him in 1 punch.(Rewatch movie 8 and see just how easily even the advanced super saiyan was cast down,and in movie 10 Broly's power was higher than it was in movie 8, since he recovered from heavy wounds.) My conclusion is that if Gohan wasn't ssj2 in movie 10 he would got annihilated very fast. Beilieve me Nothing, I've been on that side of the fence, I only just changed my view on Broly and movie 10. Check out This video if you haven't already seen it. I watched Second Coming again the other day and Gohan does get the crap beat out of him, if he was SSJ2 he would of been able to dodge some hits at least. SSJ2 Majin Vegeta is equal to SSJ2 Goku who Vegeta said was stronger then SSJ2 Gohan during the Cell Games, and Cell Games Gohan is stronger then Adult Gohan. To put that into a more readable context: SSJ2 Majin Vegeta = SSJ2 Goku > SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Games) > LSSJ Broly (I think he fits about here) > MSSJ Adult Gohan (he never fought him as SSJ2.) I'm not sure if SSJ2 Adult Gohan could take Broly as he was a lot weaker, but SSJ2 Majin Vegeta would beat him no sweat. He's miles stronger then Adult Gohan. Edited by Psyam, Mar 20 2009, 04:15 PM.



Nothing	Mar 20 2009, 08:52 PM Post #29
Posts: 153 Group: Member Member #4,026 Joined: March 13, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox	I have just seen the video that you mentioned Psyam...yeah it is really a mind confusion. It is true that Gohan isn't a ssj2 in movie 10. One thing I don't understand...why did Gohan risk getting killed by Broly if he had ssj2 form.(He was a ssj2 when he defeated Bojack in movie 9, so he is supposed to have it in movie 10.) Why didn't he use it in movie 10 against Broly? Just noticed something strange that has nothig to do with Broly vs. Majin Vegeta topic: Watch DBZ Episode 230 "Super Saiyan 3". When Goku first appears in front of Majin Buu his hair style matches that of a ssj2, but there are no electrical sparks in his aura. But later when he shows Buu all ssj transformations, he has electrical sparks in his ssj2 aura...weird!!! It appears that sometimes the makers of DBZ forgot to put electrical sparks in aura Edited by Nothing, Mar 21 2009, 12:55 AM.



Zarbon	Mar 21 2009, 11:58 AM Post #30
Posts: 17 Group: New Member Member #4,031 Joined: March 15, 2009	green_480 Jan 8 2009, 03:33 AM Majin Vegeta would win very very easily Yes that is true Majin Vegeta Would win Super easy!
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