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| Strawberry | Dec 20 2008, 08:55 PM Post #61 |
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I agree it is getting out of hand, but not because some people have been asked why they believe in God. I believe that if some people say they're able to feel God, while there are people who don't, it's fair that both sides discuss what makes some people feel God. It is getting out of hand just because unfortunately this whole debate is going nowhere. I remember a few months ago we had a debate topic called "Atheism", and I remember making huge posts about it, I remember getting headaches from making them lol, I'd feel exhausted everytime I had to reply to a new post, but I'd still do it. And the people I debated with at that time, are now in this topic repeating the same exact ideas and reasons why they have the beliefs they do. That just comes to prove me that the other debate had no effect on both people who believed and didn't believe in God, and that's why I only made one simple post here so far. I can't bother keeping up with this, not now. |
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| + Byakko | Dec 20 2008, 09:44 PM Post #62 |
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"Three things not to discuss at the dinner table; Politics, Religion and sex" I guess this applies to Forums too. Nobody can agree with anything. The only debate religion has is "Prove God doesn't exist". I boycott this topic. |
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| Meowth | Dec 20 2008, 10:30 PM Post #63 |
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Politics is always an ice-breaker though, all my friends have a political opinion. Also, if you don't want to take part in the topic, it would be nice if you didn't post in it atall, annoucing to the readers of the topic that you aren't going to post isn't contributing. Please avoid none contributing posts, weather you agree with the subject being made or not. |
 
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| + Byakko | Dec 20 2008, 11:50 PM Post #64 |
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That contributes to the topic. So there's nothing really to complain about. I'm saying this topic isn't going to go anywhere. Nobody can prove anything because we don't know everything. |
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| Damaged | Dec 21 2008, 02:00 AM Post #65 |
 
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There's evidence is evolution but there is no evidence that god exists. |
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| Pookie | Dec 21 2008, 05:33 AM Post #66 |
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Well the other Christians aren't vocal on the forum, therefore, I cannot assume there are others. For the most part, there are more atheists than those, who believe in religion. The problem with you Haze is that you think everything you say is correct, and it's not. You make Satanism out to be the best while criticizing other religions. I don't go around telling you not to believe in what you do. You're just as bad as some of those jehova witness people preaching about God's power and how their beliefs are superior. If you want to make this a personal debate, than we can because it is what you just did. Also, when I pray at night, I know that it's God that I am speaking to. The things I say I feel from my heart. I can't explain it to you or anyone on this forum, but it's how I sense that God is there. You can talk about Allah or Krishna, but I have always believed in one God and that will never change. God helped me through tough times that I had throughout this year. Ask anyone, who knew me how bad in shape I was. There were days where I couldn't get out of to bed, however, every time I stepped into a church my body felt like it was healing itself. I felt no pain, no anger, and no remorse. The only sensation I felt was peace. Tell me how that happens? Tell me why I had those moments of bliss as soon as I entered a church? Am I crazy? I don't think so. Edited by Pookie, Dec 21 2008, 05:51 AM.
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Dec 22 2008, 08:54 PM Post #67 |
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Masochist is the preferred word. Some people get off by denying themselves of their indulgences, I guess you are one of them. |
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| Pookie | Dec 22 2008, 10:44 PM Post #68 |
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Hm not really.  I'm not the one, who preaches about Satanism in unbelievably long essays, which nobody reads.  Anyway, I'm done with this topic. I believe in what I believe, and you guys can have your beliefs too. Edited by Pookie, Dec 22 2008, 10:50 PM.
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| Sam | Dec 30 2008, 11:58 AM Post #69 |
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Calm down, folks. This shouldn't have been even made, in my opinion, you can sling something from one side, counter it, then come back, counter it, etc. Nobody should have to explain their religion. So, without further ado, I'm closing this topic to avoid a lot of dissension. If any administrator disagrees, feel free to reopen it. As per the Issue: Discrimination topic, located here, religion is one of the things that somebody should NOT be persecuted for. Questioning someones religion is pretty borderline, and the line IS thin. Edited by Sam, Dec 30 2008, 12:07 PM.
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| Rockman | Jan 8 2009, 09:52 PM Post #70 |
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It's possible to continue this topic without other people getting offended. If you get offended by the topic, or what others think, leave the topic. Don't post here. You're making it less enjoyable to the rest of us by making it apparent that you're hurt by what someone said. If you are not prepared to listen and learn about what others have to say, then do not post in this area. |
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| Tomdoodle | Jan 9 2009, 12:26 PM Post #71 |
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I believe in evolution, the big bang and all that, but as long as things remain unexplained and unproven, I will continue to believe that there is a all powerful force of some kind, simply because the alternative of there being absolutely nothing is, well, not for me. I'm not about to worship it, because if it does exist it probably isn't interested in us, but I'm not going to dismiss the concept entirely either. |
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| Rockman | Jan 9 2009, 12:34 PM Post #72 |
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On that, what if you're right? Let's say a little something exist. Big enough to create everything we can see in outer space. What does outer space have to do with my life? Why can't we live our lives and not have to worry about being eternally damned? |
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| Temphis | Jan 9 2009, 01:28 PM Post #73 |
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to help you all not take this overboard, I am gonna suggest that you simply state that "I feel that", or "I beleive", before stating your oppenion. also instead of accusing people of their beliefs or of the way they are simply because they have a belief, simply ask them questions regarding their other views, rather than judging them. just because someone has different views and beliefs as you dosn't mean they are inferior, it simply means they have had a different walk down the path of life. if they had the same experiences as you they would most likely share the same oppenions as well. now, as far as I feel, I don't simply profess to believe, I have experienced for myself a power that transcends anything on this earth, multiple times. I have felt the power of god. I also have studied intensivly, in order to deepen my understanding of him. therefor, I know for myself that god not only exists, but that there was a ressurection, and that he now lives. if that were true, it would mean all of us would be ressurected eventually too (our bodies being reunited with our spirit, in a perfect form, never to be subject to sickness and desiese again.) and also never subject to the burdens of our mortal life again afterward. if true, it would a good thing for all of us, so please don't get offended by me stating that I know for myself he lives. as far as some of the first points brought up, if god was unfair or insensitive in anyway, he could not exist. in that way I agree with manystatements that have been said. however, I feel he is perfect, unchanging, and he is specific, with a defination that can be defined and explained. this is a contrary belief to the most of christianity, but I feel god is "literally" the father of our spirits. being a father would have to mean there is a mother. therefor, in order for god to be "the eternal father" there would have to mean there is an "eternal mother". since she has never been mentioned in scripture, or by any cannonical source, it is only an assumption, but I feel it is self explanitory. as far as the bad things in this world, if god is perfect, he did not create them. he merely gave us our ability to chose, knowing that many of us would chose to hurt others. if he is perfect, that would also mean that he has provided a way for us to overcome these challanges in life, and rise above the evil that other man chose. it would mean Satan is real, and is the source of temptation for all people to do evil, but that people chose to do it of their own will. it would mean that we are made in the image of god, that jesus was the christ/savior of all mankind, that we can be with our families for ever and many many other things that I can only barely get into here without taking up way to much space. these are all views I've come to, and I don't expect most of you to agree with them. however, I would invite all of you, if you would like to try and understand why I feel this way, to talk to me about it so I can tell ya where I got alot of my views, most are backed by scripture, some are simply reasoning, and some just came to me, but I wouldn't know any of it without my religion's claims, and asking god in prayer if those claims where true, since I recieved spiritual promptings from god that the claims the church I go to are true. that is simply my knowledge and understanding, but I still can understand why all of you feel the way you do, I've thought about alot of things, and I agree with a lot of you to certain extents, while disagreeing in other ways. |
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| Tomdoodle | Jan 9 2009, 04:00 PM Post #74 |
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I'm not saying that this little-big-something created us, at least not individually. It just sparked the reaction, that led to the events, that created us through sheer accident.
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| Rockman | Jan 9 2009, 04:09 PM Post #75 |
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Don't you mean Jesus Christ?
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