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"Depression"?
Tweet Topic Started: Oct 9 2008, 02:45 PM (1,084 Views)
~~Haze55~~	Oct 9 2008, 02:45 PM Post #1
~Out on the Tiles~ Posts: 921 Group: Suspended Member #1,787 Joined: October 5, 2006	Being "depressed" seems to be the new fad with the heard these days. Whining is their new hobby that's taking the throne of what used to be claimed by boredom in the 1990s. Moping around as if the weight of the entire world was on their shoulders is the new pastime, adding to the mentality of the apathetic slacker that dominated heard culture not too long ago or far away. Sure, actual clinical depression is not something I'd necessarily wish on anyone (well, if my worst enemies get it, then tough nuggies for them). But everywhere I go, I always hear someone moan or blurt out "I'm depressed...". Oh really? Did you experience many of these following signs? - Rapid weight loss or gain (not controlled by diet or exercise). - Digestive problems - Chronic fatigue. - Suicidal thoughts/behavior (not just feeling sorry for yourself saying "I want to die") - Delusions and hallucinations - Disoriented sleeping patterns (too much or too little sleep) - Withdrawing from all hobbies, activities, and family/friends. If you really have experienced severe warning signs of clinical depression, then don't take anything I say in this note personal. If you have a serious case in which professional help, advice, or treatment is required, then I can truly empathize and have a lot more understanding of your situation. HOWEVER, if you're one of those people who claims to be "depressed" because: - You don't have enough money as your friends. - Your computer/Ipod/celll-phone broke. - You can't use your car because it has to be repaired for the weekend. - You think that by listening to "emo" music, it's somehow cool to be sad and down all the time. - You don't like the rules enforced on you in your household. Shut the hell up, and go find a way to remove yourself from the gene pool. I'm generally willing to listen to other's problems and have an in-depth discussion or conversation with anyone to get to the bottom of what's going on. But most of the time, these "depressed" people don't want any solutions to their problems (most of which are petty, if not self-created). They really just want to selfishly mope around and have everyone else do everything for them. It's like talking to a brick wall; serves no purpose and gets nobody anything in return. And seriously, (unless you really are dealing with a serious problem that requires medical attention) how could you claim to be "depressed" if you come from a middle class family, have a job, drive a decent car (better yet, even HAVE a car in the first place), have a family that cares for you, aren't living in a run down ghetto, and have the potential to be creative or productive in life? The bottom line is that the world owes you nothing. Nobody is going to come at you and hand success over to you. Nobody is going to coddle you along the windy, bumpy road that is life itself. You're going to hit a few detours along the way. Hell, you might even crash a few times. But as frustrating as it may be (and granted, I have my days of frustration), that's how life is. Nothing's going to change. So be happy that anyone cares for your existence. Be happy that you aren't living in a police state where you have to gravely fear for your life every second of every day. Be happy if people talk *** about to your face or behind your back. They're immortalizing you, and are stuck with your presence in their pitiful minds. And if and when you do get hit with the hard times, do the best you can to roll with the punches and respond. It's a lot better and serves more purpose than moping around and whining about being "depressed" when clearly you're just a ***ing whiner. You only live once. Make the best of it.



* -Zero-	Oct 9 2008, 02:54 PM Post #2
Black Knight Posts: 8,697 Group: Retired Staff Member #1,874 Joined: November 5, 2006 Favourite Anime Code Geass, Death Note, Dragonball/Z	Just out of curiosity out of these - Rapid weight loss or gain (not controlled by diet or exercise). - Digestive problems - Chronic fatigue. - Suicidal thoughts/behavior (not just feeling sorry for yourself saying "I want to die") - Delusions and hallucinations - Disoriented sleeping patterns (too much or too little sleep) - Withdrawing from all hobbies, activities, and family/friends. Do you absolutely have to have suicidal thoughts to have to be depressed? Cause I well errrm know someone that is depressed, but does not have suicidal thoughts, though most of those symptoms seem to be pretty true
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The Grimoire	Oct 9 2008, 02:57 PM Post #3
Posts: 201 Group: Member Member #3,733 Joined: October 8, 2008 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball Multiverse	- Chronic fatigue. - Suicidal thoughts/behavior (not just feeling sorry for yourself saying "I want to die") - Delusions and hallucinations - Disoriented sleeping patterns (too much or too little sleep) - Withdrawing from all hobbies, activities, and family/friends. Do you even know what it's like when you're depressed? Edited by The Grimoire, Oct 9 2008, 02:58 PM.
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Meowth	Oct 9 2008, 03:36 PM Post #4
=._.= Posts: 130,670 Group: Princess Member #23 Joined: November 22, 2004 Gender Female Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Fruits Basket	Haze55 Oct 9 2008, 02:45 PM Did you experience many of these following signs? - Rapid weight loss or gain (not controlled by diet or exercise). - Digestive problems - Chronic fatigue. - Suicidal thoughts/behavior (not just feeling sorry for yourself saying "I want to die") - Delusions and hallucinations - Disoriented sleeping patterns (too much or too little sleep) - Withdrawing from all hobbies, activities, and family/friends. I would say I have most of them, lol, but I dobut it's related to my mood, I might feel depressed from time to time but even when I do I don't go telling people, I generally pretend to be content or happy because it's easier, uhh. - Suicidal thoughts/behavior Never really had suicidal thoughts or acts, I couldn't comit suicide, I wouldn't want to harm the people who know me and care for me. No matter what the situation, I couldn't hurt them. - Delusions and hallucinations Never, well excpet drunk, does that count? That others I have had at some point in the past, I am always losing weight for no reason though. Well, at the moment, I've mainined the same weight, which is nice. I know people who are depressed but they don't go around telling people either, only when it's relevent to something. People choosing to be depressed is becoming common yes, it could be that they want attention or they want to fit in with a crowd where no one understands them. Though that seems somewhat backwards. All the same, I don't know why anyone would want to be depressed. Depression causes paranoia and irritiblity as well I believe, depending on the person as well.



* -Zero-	Oct 9 2008, 03:43 PM Post #5
Black Knight Posts: 8,697 Group: Retired Staff Member #1,874 Joined: November 5, 2006 Favourite Anime Code Geass, Death Note, Dragonball/Z	Those who go around telling everyone that they are depressed are those that are not depressed. Me, I don't like telling people that I'm depressed, very few times I have told someone and when I did say I wanted to see if they knew any way to help nothing more nothing else. Being depressed over something like a broken ipod or whatever is really dumb. On my other post, yes I was referring to me. About suicidal thoughts I don't know if you'd count this as suicidal thoughts but I have thought about that if I didn't exist than perhaps my family could be better without me, I have thought about if dying was the answer, but I came to a conclusion on the suicide I find that it would be a weak way out, therefore I will just endure everything and get stronger. As for loosing weight oh yeah I went from like 110 to 100 pounds I do workout but I also eat a lot so that shouldn't have been an excuse. Yes I do have sleeping problems. And yes I could probably talk about all those symptoms but I do not find it necessary, I have found that it is up to me to try and fix my own issues, and it should not be anyones business if I am depressed or not. I think that sometimes my friend realizes as he keeps asking me if everything is ok. Of course I say it is and try to smile.
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The Grimoire	Oct 9 2008, 03:46 PM Post #6
Posts: 201 Group: Member Member #3,733 Joined: October 8, 2008 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball Multiverse	Joker Snake Oct 9 2008, 03:43 PM Being depressed over something like a broken ipod or whatever is really dumb Agreed. But that's not the reason and I'm not even gonna talk about it
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Pookie	Oct 10 2008, 01:50 AM Post #7
Pookie Powa! Posts: 18,039 Group: Princesa Pookie Member #1,340 Joined: April 21, 2006 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome and Firefox	I don't understand what we are debating about, but I'll put in my two cents. Depression should be a personal matter that should only be told to those, who care for one. I don't like the group of people, who use it as a tool for gaining attention. I know that depression is not something a person can snap out of. Waking up in the morning, is difficult and sometimes it is overwhelming to the point that it needs medication to be treated. It takes time, love, and patience for a truly depressed person to return to being happy and safe again.



The Grimoire	Oct 10 2008, 03:18 AM Post #8
Posts: 201 Group: Member Member #3,733 Joined: October 8, 2008 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball Multiverse	AngelicHottieDS Oct 10 2008, 01:50 AM I don't like the group of people, who use it as a tool for gaining attention I know those kind of people who does that in my other forum Bunch of idiots they are
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* -Zero-	Oct 10 2008, 03:37 AM Post #9
Black Knight Posts: 8,697 Group: Retired Staff Member #1,874 Joined: November 5, 2006 Favourite Anime Code Geass, Death Note, Dragonball/Z	The other forum wasn't just the only one that they did that, I also go somewhere else where people all they do every day is talk about being depressed 24/7 that will not get anyone out of depression at all. Also I don't think medicine fixes depression, it only maybe relaxes you for a bit... I haven't tried any medicines and to be honest I don't think I want to, it's something that I myself will have to find a way out sure it may take sometime, we can't always rely on medicine
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The Grimoire	Oct 11 2008, 02:36 AM Post #10
Posts: 201 Group: Member Member #3,733 Joined: October 8, 2008 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball Multiverse	Joker Snake Oct 10 2008, 03:37 AM The other forum wasn't just the only one that they did that, I also go somewhere else where people all they do every day is talk about being depressed 24/7 that will not get anyone out of depression at all. Also I don't think medicine fixes depression, it only maybe relaxes you for a bit... I haven't tried any medicines and to be honest I don't think I want to, it's something that I myself will have to find a way out sure it may take sometime, we can't always rely on medicine It doesn't make it go away automatically =/ It relaxes you a bit just like you said
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~~Haze55~~	Oct 11 2008, 02:33 PM Post #11
~Out on the Tiles~ Posts: 921 Group: Suspended Member #1,787 Joined: October 5, 2006	AngelicHottieDS Oct 10 2008, 01:50 AM I don't understand what we are debating about Does it need to be a debate to be in Deep Discussion? I don't think your last thread was a debate topic. Quote: Do you even know what it's like when you're depressed? No, I've never been depressed. Those are the (usual) clinical effects of depression, though



Pookie	Oct 12 2008, 12:21 AM Post #12
Pookie Powa! Posts: 18,039 Group: Princesa Pookie Member #1,340 Joined: April 21, 2006 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome and Firefox	I didn't know. I was confused on what the topic focused on as the discussion.



Meowth	Oct 12 2008, 02:10 PM Post #13
=._.= Posts: 130,670 Group: Princess Member #23 Joined: November 22, 2004 Gender Female Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Fruits Basket	Haze55 Oct 11 2008, 02:33 PM Quote: Do you even know what it's like when you're depressed? No, I've never been depressed. Those are the (usual) clinical effects of depression, though I'm sure most people have probably felt slightly depressed at some point when something bad has happend, though I imagin they usually get over it unless they suffer from depression. People who want to be depressed are pretty stange really because being depressed at any point is never a good thing, I'd never try to force myself to be depressed it seems really silly to do, to intentionally beat yourself up inside so you feel bad or just trying to feel bad on the outside, I don't understand it. I've felt depressed from time to time, I usually find something to do to distract me, so much easier than feeling down, lol.



* Itagaki Manabu	Oct 12 2008, 10:58 PM Post #14
Posts: 4,635 Group: Retired Staff Member #832 Joined: November 6, 2005	I think most of those things you mentioned in the 2nd list are just for jokes. Like i've said before, omg Im so depressed. because my ipod broke. I didnt meen it, sure I was a little sad and angry but not depressed. The only 'fake' depression I know is the way of the emo. But not all are faking it. I think that you don't need that list you wrote to be depressed, I think if you have enough things that make you sad/lonely or/and your life is unfair, You can be depressed. Like braking your Ipod, if your sad already and your ipod brakes it is really just adding to the mess.



Meowth	Oct 13 2008, 06:56 AM Post #15
=._.= Posts: 130,670 Group: Princess Member #23 Joined: November 22, 2004 Gender Female Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Fruits Basket	Itagaki Manabu Oct 12 2008, 10:58 PM I think that you don't need that list you wrote to be depressed, I think if you have enough things that make you sad/lonely or/and your life is unfair, You can be depressed. Like braking your Ipod, if your sad already and your ipod brakes it is really just adding to the mess. Many of the first list are the symptoms of Depression. Being sad/loney/feeling life is unfair doesn't generally mean that you suffer from depression, just means that you might be going through a hard time in your life or you have too many expectations. Though I mean being loney much of your life could cause depression I guess. Breaking an iPod might suck but it's not going to cause you to develop depression, unless you already have tendencies to be despressed. More symptoms can be found here, though I will quote them too. http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/23068720/ Quote: The following is a list of common symptoms of depression. It is unusual to have them all, but several usually develop if you have depression. * Low mood for most of the day, nearly every day. Things always seem 'black'. * Loss of enjoyment and interest in life, even for activities that you normally enjoy. * Abnormal sadness, often with weepiness. * Feelings of guilt, worthlessness, or uselessness. * Poor motivation. Even simple tasks seem difficult. * Poor concentration. It may be difficult to read, work, etc. * Sleeping problems: o sometimes difficulty in getting off to sleep. o sometimes waking early and unable to get back to sleep. o sleeping too much sometimes occurs. * Lacking in energy, always tired. * Difficulty with affection, including going off sex. * Poor appetite and weight loss. Sometimes the reverse happens with comfort eating and weight gain. * Irritability, agitation, or restlessness. * Symptoms often seem worse first thing each day. * Physical symptoms such as headaches, palpitations, chest pains, and general aches. * Recurrent thoughts of death. This is not usually a fear of death, more a preoccupation with death and dying. Some people get suicidal ideas such as ..."life's not worth living". The severity of the symptoms can vary from mild to severe. As a rule, the more symptoms from the list above that you have, the more severe the depression is likely to be.



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