Raddits was to darn weak....

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Raddits was to darn weak....; plothole?
Tweet Topic Started: Aug 2 2008, 12:44 AM (1,691 Views)
Tourist	Aug 2 2008, 12:44 AM Post #1
Posts: 74 Group: Member Member #3,589 Joined: July 26, 2008 Favourite Anime Deathnote and DBZ What Browser do you use? zorro de fuego...or Firefox in English	I mean Saiyanss get stronger with ever battle especially if they've taken a beating. Radditz has been purging planets all his life this has enviably gotten in many fights with the inhabitants of which ever civilization he was aiming to exterminate. I really don't see how he could have stayed with a lousy power level of 1,200 for such a long time. I mean Bardock and his crew were, all "third class" warriors and I get the impression all their powers were more then that. In the case of Bardock we can be sure (10,000). I suppose you can argue that maybe Radditz never took on a challenging mission though. What do you think?



iScarred	Aug 2 2008, 04:30 AM Post #2
Posts: 9 Group: New Member Member #3,535 Joined: July 8, 2008 Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z, Inuyasha, Samurai Champloo Favourite Manga One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, Yu Yuu Hakusho, etc.	I actually agree with you. Raditz was only a challenge to Goku and Piccolo who at the time only had Power Levels of 320, and 334. But, with all statistics aside, I just think Toriyama wanted a character to introduce Goku to his true heritage. A quick villain, who would reveal himself as his Brother. So I think Raditz was only used as a key to educate Goku on who he is, and where he came from. I wish Raditz stayed around longer, however. But yeah he wasn't strong because, he was only meant to prove a point, and to only be a beginner villain. He was the setup for the Saiyan saga. Edited by iScarred, Aug 2 2008, 04:44 AM.



Silver Raditz	Aug 2 2008, 08:04 PM Post #3
A True Saiyan Warrior Posts: 1,116 Group: Member Member #1,356 Joined: April 26, 2006 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? MSN Explorer	It's like the first boss of an RPG...you never forget 'em but the time the last one rolls up they seem ridiclous.
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* Mitas	Aug 3 2008, 12:19 PM Post #4
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	I think the fact that Raditz was such a challenge, yet had a low power level compared to Vegeta and Nappa, was to emphasise the power of both of them and the future enemies taht Gokue and the others would fight in the Namek Saga. But it is a bit of an error to have made him so weak, I mean they had Saibamen as powerful as Raditz for god sake. Surely Raditz wouldn't have been an Elite Warrior if they could just throw out an army of Saibamen. Edited by Mitas, Aug 3 2008, 12:19 PM.
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* Psyam	Aug 3 2008, 03:31 PM Post #5
Posts: 1,788 Group: Retired Staff Member #3,439 Joined: May 18, 2008 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime HxH What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga One Piece	Indeed, it was stupid that the Saibamen were equal to Raditz...but I suppose Raditz was somewhat of a joke among the saiyans. Still, he really should of been stronger then he was. Like people have said, he was simply used to forshadow the saiyan saga and then thrown away after he'd fulfilled his purpose.



Graffiti	Aug 4 2008, 08:38 PM Post #6
MGD. Posts: 3,298 Group: GFX Team Member #204 Joined: February 21, 2005 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Black Lagoon, One Piece, DBZ What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Bleach	During the beginning of the Saiyan Saga, Everyone of Z-Fighters were weak compared to the end of DBZ and DBGT. Raditz was the first villian who was you can call at their level.
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~~Haze55~~	Aug 8 2008, 07:10 PM Post #7
~Out on the Tiles~ Posts: 921 Group: Suspended Member #1,787 Joined: October 5, 2006	My guess would be plothole. iScarred is probably right. You an't just have a character right off the bat who is that strong.



LXN	Aug 9 2008, 09:58 AM Post #8
Posts: 7 Group: New Member Member #3,608 Joined: August 3, 2008	I think since Raditz was so hard for Goku and Piccolo to beat, was to make the whole Nappa and Vegeta fight seem more intense. Since Raditz was considered a weakling among Freizas warriors but was stronger than the Z-fighters, it made the Z-fighters seem insignificant compared to the Saiyans. But if you think about it, Raditz was one of the last three Saiyans left, so he should have been alot stronger than he was. He was sent to many of planets for battle and surely he must have trained alot, yet after the training for Nappa and Vegeta, the Z-fighters were stronger (I think) than Raditz.



Strawberry	Aug 9 2008, 08:23 PM Post #9
Chiaroscuro ♥ Posts: 17,000 Group: Rock Princess Member #1,750 Joined: September 24, 2006	wow, this topic brought a really good point. I had never tought about it. I agree he was too weak, even for a low class saiyan, as he was classified. The other saiyans must have thought he was a joke, lol, poor Raditz.
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Tourist	Aug 10 2008, 02:29 AM Post #10
Posts: 74 Group: Member Member #3,589 Joined: July 26, 2008 Favourite Anime Deathnote and DBZ What Browser do you use? zorro de fuego...or Firefox in English	Quote: It's like the first boss of an RPG...you never forget 'em but the time the last one rolls up they seem ridiclous. Ha! good analogy. Anyway yes, sadly Radditz is condemned to being nothing more but a plot device. He looks like the quintessential saiyan stereo type, and is related to Goku, but strength wise he's the laughing stalk of his race....In his particular case the destruction of Vegeta, might have been the best thing that could have ever happened to him, in the case of developing a sense of self worth. :p[/quote] Edited by Tourist, Aug 10 2008, 02:30 AM.



Tom Lyons	Aug 10 2008, 05:26 AM Post #11
Posts: 5 Group: New Member Member #3,620 Joined: August 10, 2008 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? IE7 Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	Raditz was an average Saiyan, which is around 1,200 in power. Perhaps Raditz didn't meet much challenge in his life. Maybe thats why he seems to darn weak.
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Nero	Aug 14 2008, 08:51 PM Post #12
Flash Posts: 2,454 Group: Member Member #1,763 Joined: September 30, 2006	Raditz was just a low-class saiyan. If he had a power level, like most of the other saiyans, then Goku and Piccolo would have stood a chance. Raditz was probably there to show how powerful Nappa and Vegeta were. If they barely managed to defeat Raditz, then how could they stand up to elites like Nappa and Vegeta
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Cellgeta	Aug 16 2008, 05:48 AM Post #13
Posts: 106 Group: Member Member #3,536 Joined: July 9, 2008 Favourite Anime DBZ	SSJ-Mitas Aug 3 2008, 12:19 PM But it is a bit of an error to have made him so weak, I mean they had Saibamen as powerful as Raditz for god sake. Surely Raditz wouldn't have been an Elite Warrior if they could just throw out an army of Saibamen. Not necessarily. Remember, Goku and the DBZ warriors only got stronger as they fought their foes. Why get stronger when you're already at the top of th chain? Raditz and the other remaining Sayains were some of the strongest warriors at the time. These warriors had no need to get stronger because they were dominating all the planets. So it's not an error.



Son Sebbe	Aug 16 2008, 11:34 AM Post #14
Posts: 81 Group: Member Member #3,568 Joined: July 20, 2008 Favourite Anime Dragonball, Dragonball GT, Dragonball Z 'In that order! What Browser do you use? WIE Favourite Manga Dragonball, One piece...	If radditsh would have ´been stronger... The intire world would have been destroyed and then sold... No one to wish them back since they had no contact to namek at the time... Freeza wouldn't have been stopped, Vegta would not get he's motivation to become ssj... I'm okay with Raddish powerlevel... And to discuss a thing a thing like this I childrish... Freeza also said he was the strongest in the universe... So he didn't knew cooler? ofcause you can come up with and exsplonation about freeza didn't knew the strenght of cooler at the time... But ofcause it's a fighting manga/Show/Game and the enimes need to get stronger...



Sin	Aug 16 2008, 12:18 PM Post #15
Posts: 25 Group: Member Member #2,151 Joined: March 1, 2007	He was about avergae Powerlevel actually, back then the views of strong and weak were alot different, Vegeta was probably considered very strong and Raditz was probably considered average. I mean now we have powerlevels at least in the millions so 1200 seems like nothing but back then it was probably alot.



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