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Vegeta; I have some questions
Topic Started: Jul 14 2008, 10:45 PM (690 Views)
Missona
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In the Buu saga, Vegeta falls under the control of Babidi.

I know he chooses to do this, but...

1.Did he have intentions of doing evil?

2.Was he controlled by Babidi?

3.Did he choose to kill the world tournament spectators?

4.Would he have killed them if he was not under Babidis control?

5.Why does he suddenly, at one point, start feeling sorry for what he thinks is Gohan's 'death', and talk about helping Goku rest by defeating Buu, after he showed a clear lack of compassion by trying to kill Goku/killing world tournament spectators? This seems a strange change. He begins to want to avenge Gohan.

Thanks, this really is annoying/confusing me.
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Vegeta is confused inside. He does care about the Z Fighter's (deep down) but he would never admit it. He hates that he has turned "soft" from his time on earth. He used to be the "Prince of all Saiyans", a super elite. Now he's just another fighter who, in his opinion, has had his fighting skill weakened by his emotions. The very thing he used to scorn.

He hates the fact that Goku is stronger then him. Vegeta is a VERY underated character. I think he has the potential to be equal to Goku, but he just does not have the personality Goku has. Vegeta knew that to beat Goku (Note: Being Majin did NOT boost his power beyond what he was already capable of) he had to allow himself to be controled. When free of his emotions and being "evil" again, he can fight freely, without caring about anything. He knew he had to be heartless and cruel. It is at this stage that he is strongest, and only like this can he hope to beat Goku. He knows this, and allows himself to be controlled.

However, because of his pride, Vegeta keeps his mind and does not turn into a mindless drone. His will is too strong...so the mind control is not effective in totally erasing his "softness" and later on, when the mind control is having less of a effect on him, he begins to realise that he is no longer the elite, heartless, cruel elite fighter he used to be and never can be again. He decides to sacrifice himself for the Earth, and become it's guardian.

Well, that's what I think anyway. Im only 15 and English (as in writing, not spelling etc) isn't really my strong point, so I probably just made an idiot out of myself.

Edit: Just to really reply to your first questions...I dont think Vegeta was ever fully controlled, but the mind control was probably stronger soon after he was casted the spell on...yes, I think he choose to kill those people. He knew he could use Babidi's magic as an excuse, he wanted to prove to himself he could still be the evil old Vegeta, and it was a good way to force Goku to fight him. This doesn't excuse what he did, of course. No, he would not have killed them under Babadi's control. He would like to say that he would, but I doubt he would go through with it.

I dont think he really got mind controlled under the idea of thinking "I wanna be badass and kill people again!"...more like "I need to be cruel and without any weaknesses to beat Kakarot."
Edited by Psyam, Jul 14 2008, 11:23 PM.
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1.Did he have intentions of doing evil?

He wanted to be stronger so he could defeat Goku. That was more of the reason

2.Was he controlled by Babidi?

He was never truly controlled by Babidi at all, he did evil to ry and get Goku to fight him

3.Did he choose to kill the world tournament spectators?

Pretty much same as my answer to question 2

4.Would he have killed them if he was not under Babidis control?

Probably not

5.Why does he suddenly, at one point, start feeling sorry for what he thinks is Gohan's 'death', and talk about helping Goku rest by defeating Buu, after he showed a clear lack of compassion by trying to kill Goku/killing world tournament spectators? This seems a strange change. He begins to want to avenge Gohan.

His hate was mostly for Goku and no one elses. He was supposed to be a prince and yet Goku was strogner than him. He was never truly evil at that point. Just did stupid things to get Goku to fight him

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Didn't Vageta more try to stay under the control as to try to gain a greater power level than Goku?
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Solid Snake pretty much summed it up for ya.
Questions 1-4, The answer is No, the only purpose, cause and reason was to finally Kill Kakorate and win back his Honor.

as for Question 5,
He was going through something that can't relly be explained well. He wanted to kill Goku. He always has, and he was doing it for his honor. He lost alot of dignity when Goku came into the picture. He was a ruthless saiyan warrior and he'd been turned into a father married to an earthling with a son. It was his old saiyan pride VS. his new found home. He was struggling and thought the only answer was to kill goku. It's confusing as Zant mentioned. It's something felt not explained.

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