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Seperation of Church and State
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Meowth	Jul 16 2008, 03:47 PM Post #16
=._.= Posts: 130,670 Group: Princess Member #23 Joined: November 22, 2004 Gender Female Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Fruits Basket	No, it's just because it's shown in the media, people are saying knife crime is a big thing in England because of all the media attention the deaths by knifes is getting. Doesn't mean knife crime is on the increase, the numbers show it's going down, it's just the media plays a big part in making things seem greater than they are. I don't belive any religion is on the increase, I mean they might have a few increases every so often but it's a dying thing.



Slade	Jul 16 2008, 05:47 PM Post #17
Posts: 1,029 Group: Member Member #72 Joined: January 7, 2005 Favourite Anime Death Note, Dragonball Z, Cowboy Bebop, Suzuka What Browser do you use? Firefox	Religion was just a way to control people back in the old day. Now that we have the government. No body fears religion anymore. So less people believe.
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sunate	Jul 16 2008, 05:49 PM Post #18
Posts: 644 Group: Donator Member #3,481 Joined: June 16, 2008 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Eureka 7 What Browser do you use? safari	.Punxx Jul 16 2008, 03:41 PM Kyonko Jul 16 2008, 03:08 PM All religions are fading, though families have a huge impact on if their children. So a christain family is most likly going to rasie christian kids. I think the Muslim religion is growing rather than fading but that's just me.. I hope not though. you have proof?



~~.Punxx~~	Jul 16 2008, 06:24 PM Post #19
Worst Member of the Year Posts: 1,580 Group: Suspended Member #2,429 Joined: July 11, 2007	sunate Jul 16 2008, 05:49 PM .Punxx Jul 16 2008, 03:41 PM Kyonko Jul 16 2008, 03:08 PM All religions are fading, though families have a huge impact on if their children. So a christain family is most likly going to rasie christian kids. I think the Muslim religion is growing rather than fading but that's just me.. I hope not though. you have proof? Quote: As in the rest of the world, Islam is in the midst of a rapid growth in Europe. This development has been attracting more attention in recent years, as evidenced by the many theses, reports, and articles published on "the place of Muslims in Europe" and "dialogue between European society and Muslims." Along with these academic reports, the media has carried frequent reports about Islam and Muslims. The root of this interest lies in the continual growth of Muslim population figures in Europe, and that this increase cannot be ascribed solely to immigration. While immigration certainly has had a significant effect on the Muslim population's growth, so many researchers have addressed this matter for quite another reason: high conversion rates. The Roman Catholic Church, headquartered in Vatican City, is one of the institutions that follows conversion trends. One of the main topics during the October 1999 meeting of the European synod, which was attended by almost all of the Catholic clergy, was the Church's position in the new millennium. The conference's main theme was the rapid growth of Islam in Europe. The National Catholic Reporter reported that some radical individuals stated that the only way to prevent Muslims' gaining power in Europe was to stop tolerating Muslims and Islam; other more objective and rational individuals underscored the fact that since the two religions believe in one God, there should be no room for any conflict or struggle between them. In one session, Archbishop Karl Lehmann of Germany stressed that there is more internal pluralism within Islam than many Christians perceive, and that the radicals' claims about Islam had no basis in truth.61 Considering the position of Muslims when elucidating the Church's position in the new millennium was quite proper, for a 1999 United Nations' survey showed that between 1989 and 1998, Europe's Muslim population grew by more than 100 percent.62 Today, about 13 million Muslims live in Western Europe: 3.9 million in Germany, 3.3 million in Britain, 7.5 million in France, and the rest in other countries.63 Relevant research also has revealed that while the number of Muslims in Europe continues to grow, there is a deepening of religious awareness among Muslims. According to a survey conducted by the French newspaper Le Monde in October 2001, compared to data collected in 1994, many Muslims continue to perform their prayers, go to the mosque, and fast. This awareness is seen much more among university students.64 Quote: The National Catholic Reporter reported that some radical individuals stated that the only way to prevent Muslims' gaining power in Europe was to stop tolerating Muslims and Islam; other more objective and rational individuals underscored the fact that since the two religions believe in one God, there should be no room for any conflict or struggle between them Speaking of which, I hate to say it but a mix of religion will only cause problems. Religion wasnt causing problems back then was because the Christians had their villages, the Jews had their villages and stuck to themselves. Now we live in a world where Christians and Jews are neighbours haha http://www.riseofislam.com/europe_and_islam_01.html Edited by .Punxx, Jul 16 2008, 06:32 PM.



Silver Raditz	Jul 17 2008, 04:20 AM Post #20
A True Saiyan Warrior Posts: 1,116 Group: Member Member #1,356 Joined: April 26, 2006 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? MSN Explorer	.Punxx Jul 16 2008, 06:24 PM Speaking of which, I hate to say it but a mix of religion will only cause problems. Religion wasnt causing problems back then was because the Christians had their villages, the Jews had their villages and stuck to themselves. Now we live in a world where Christians and Jews are neighbours haha http://www.riseofislam.com/europe_and_islam_01.html Those Jewish villages were Ghettos and Shetals for the most part... As for the jewish religion, The Othadox sect is dying.... The conservative is also shrinking a bit. Reform Judiasim seems to be more popular now because it's easily accessible. The problem with our religion's growth is not a losing of faith it's just a numbers game, with only 13-14 million Jews world wide it's hard to keep up! Honestly, the only difficult thing about my faith is we go to temple on Friday night rather than sunday morning. And Friday night i normally work. Regardless, i pray on my own time at home. Edited by Silver Raditz, Jul 17 2008, 04:28 AM.
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TyTy518	Jul 23 2008, 06:08 AM Post #21
Posts: 93 Group: Member Member #3,538 Joined: July 9, 2008 Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga DBZ	Europe has more atheist than us i believe. i hope Christianity disappears with all religion.
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~~.Punxx~~	Jul 23 2008, 05:34 PM Post #22
Worst Member of the Year Posts: 1,580 Group: Suspended Member #2,429 Joined: July 11, 2007	TyTy518 Jul 23 2008, 06:08 AM Europe has more atheist than us i believe. i hope Christianity disappears with all religion. You're right suprisingly.. I thought We'd have way more atheists than Europe as it's in Europe's culture. but.. Quote: According to the most recent relevant Eurostat Eurobarometer poll, in 2005, 52% of European Union citizens responded that "they believe there is a God", whereas 27% answered that "they believe there is some sort of spirit or life force" and 18% that "they do not believe there is a spirit, God, nor life force". Quote: A 2004 BBC poll showed the number of people in the US who don't believe in a god to be about 10%.[5] A 2005 Gallup poll showed that a smaller 5% of the US population believed that a god didn't exist.[17] The 2001 ARIS report found that while 29.5 million U.S. Americans (14.1%) describe themselves as "without religion", only 902,000 (0.4%) positively claim to be atheist, with another 991,000 (0.5%) professing agnosticism.[18] I thought there were ALOT more atheists though.. and to be honest, the only places where religion is popular in Europe is Turkey, Spain, Portugal and Italy.. it's all here if you wanna check. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism#Europe



Rockman	Jul 24 2008, 03:53 AM Post #23
hoighty-toighty Posts: 11,070 Group: Guardian Member #48 Joined: December 17, 2004 Gender Male Country United States What Browser do you use? Firefox, when it isn't crashing.	.Punxx Jul 23 2008, 05:34 PM TyTy518 Jul 23 2008, 06:08 AM Europe has more atheist than us i believe. i hope Christianity disappears with all religion. You're right suprisingly.. I thought We'd have way more atheists than Europe as it's in Europe's culture. but.. Quote: According to the most recent relevant Eurostat Eurobarometer poll, in 2005, 52% of European Union citizens responded that "they believe there is a God", whereas 27% answered that "they believe there is some sort of spirit or life force" and 18% that "they do not believe there is a spirit, God, nor life force". Quote: A 2004 BBC poll showed the number of people in the US who don't believe in a god to be about 10%.[5] A 2005 Gallup poll showed that a smaller 5% of the US population believed that a god didn't exist.[17] The 2001 ARIS report found that while 29.5 million U.S. Americans (14.1%) describe themselves as "without religion", only 902,000 (0.4%) positively claim to be atheist, with another 991,000 (0.5%) professing agnosticism.[18] I thought there were ALOT more atheists though.. and to be honest, the only places where religion is popular in Europe is Turkey, Spain, Portugal and Italy.. it's all here if you wanna check. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism#Europe It's actually not surprising at all. Considering that a few of the kings of the different European nations pushed a certain religion upon it's people, and killed all who opposed. Also consider who came first, Europe or the US? It's an easy topic.
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sunate	Jul 24 2008, 04:13 AM Post #24
Posts: 644 Group: Donator Member #3,481 Joined: June 16, 2008 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Eureka 7 What Browser do you use? safari	If you ask me religion has made so may pointless wars in the past. Many people killed for nothing but their beliefs.



~~.Punxx~~	Jul 24 2008, 04:49 AM Post #25
Worst Member of the Year Posts: 1,580 Group: Suspended Member #2,429 Joined: July 11, 2007	sunate Jul 24 2008, 04:13 AM If you ask me religion has made so may pointless wars in the past. Many people killed for nothing but their beliefs. As lame and pointles as that post was I gotta agree with you. The Salam-Abdul-Bin-Ladens in the middle east can't shut up with their ALLAH ALLAH. They sincerlery wanna spread Islam, therefore to them this war is a holy war. They think that by starting beef with the US in Septmeber of 2001 it'll send them to the Promised Land. These stupid terrorists.. I hope Allah is the devil, then they'll see how promising their Promised Land is LOL.



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