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Confused on who is stronger.; Cell, Picon and Goku
Tweet Topic Started: Jul 9 2008, 03:35 AM (4,154 Views)
Cellgeta	Jul 9 2008, 03:35 AM Post #1
Posts: 106 Group: Member Member #3,536 Joined: July 9, 2008 Favourite Anime DBZ	Remember when Picon was sent by the Grand Kai to go to Hell and take care of Frieza, the Ginyu force and Cell? Well, what I am confused about is how Picon easily puts Cell in his place but yet in the tournament Goku is able to beat Picon (even though it was technically a draw). However, druing the Cell Games Saga, even just the Perfect Cell and was able to beat Goku. So if Picon beats up SSJ2 Cell, Goku beats/gives Picon a really good fight in the tournament and Cell not even fully powed up yet or at his strongest point beats Goku in the Cell games, then what is going on? Sorry if that sounds confusing but you guys should know what I am talking about. It's hard to explain this stuff on the internet.



+ Rebel X	Jul 9 2008, 03:55 AM Post #2
Posts: 11,612 Group: Legend Member #88 Joined: January 16, 2005	Ok basically. Goku at SSJ2 during that time is the strongest. He gets more powerful during the match against Pikon because that when he first turn into SSJ2. The reason he lost against Cell was because he withdrew from the match, he saw Cell's power and knew he cudnt handle it quite yet. BUT they were pretty darn even. Pikkon easily beat Cell because it was a quick attack where all he did was throw cell around and he ended up in jail. Cell is weaker than Pikkon, is weaker than SSJ2 Goku Cell is also weaker than SSJ2 Gohan Pikkon was the strongest b4 the torny against goku, then goku turned SSJ2 and was more powerful than Pikkon. Hope u got that



Cellgeta	Jul 10 2008, 04:41 AM Post #3
Posts: 106 Group: Member Member #3,536 Joined: July 9, 2008 Favourite Anime DBZ	Thanks for the reply. Question though. . . how did you know that Goku turned into a SSJ2 against Pikon? Did I miss something in the episode or did you find that out somewhere?



* Ben14	Jul 10 2008, 05:14 AM Post #4
Posts: 2,103 Group: Retired Staff Member #1,870 Joined: November 4, 2006 Gender Male Country United States	You didn't miss anything, he's just wrong. Goku never goes SS2 against Pikkon. It's one of those things that's hard to explain because the entire series is filler. Pikkon and Goku are supossedly both stronger than Cell. Maybe Goku got in some training before the tournament? It's hard to say. But what can be determined is that Pikkon got in a lucky shot on Cell and rendered him helpless. We don't really know what would've happened if Cell were bursting with power like he was against Gohan. Edited by Ben14, Jul 10 2008, 05:14 AM.



+ Rebel X	Jul 10 2008, 05:37 AM Post #5
Posts: 11,612 Group: Legend Member #88 Joined: January 16, 2005	Yea I'm supposedly wrong. Uhm But i still think Goku was the strongest of the 3. Sry about that.



+ Green	Jul 10 2008, 12:55 PM Post #6
Flashy Thing! Posts: 5,436 Group: Legend Member #1,181 Joined: February 25, 2006 Gender Male Country United States What Browser do you use? Fire fox Favourite Manga Gantz	Well goku was training for like 7 years straight after his fight will cell so, his power level should be way above cells.
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Cellgeta	Jul 10 2008, 04:51 PM Post #7
Posts: 106 Group: Member Member #3,536 Joined: July 9, 2008 Favourite Anime DBZ	Yeah but when Pikkon, and goku went to fight Cell off in Hell that was right after both Cell and Goku died so therefore Cell would still be stronger then Goku by a lot.



UltimateGohan	Jul 14 2008, 08:40 PM Post #8
Posts: 802 Group: Member Member #2,807 Joined: October 31, 2007	goku only won against pikkon bcuz he used instant tranmission with a kamehameha wave, when he knocked pikkon out he lost but pikkon got up like it didnt really hurt him at all, goku only went super sayian when he faught him. and cell wasnt fully powered, he was off gaurd when pikkon beat him. Edited by UltimateGohan, Jul 14 2008, 08:41 PM.
	Gohan your the man !!!


* Psyam	Jul 14 2008, 09:52 PM Post #9
Posts: 1,788 Group: Retired Staff Member #3,439 Joined: May 18, 2008 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime HxH What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga One Piece	UltimateGohan Jul 14 2008, 08:40 PM goku only won against pikkon bcuz he used instant tranmission with a kamehameha wave, when he knocked pikkon out he lost but pikkon got up like it didnt really hurt him at all, goku only went super sayian when he faught him. and cell wasnt fully powered, he was off gaurd when pikkon beat him. This pretty much sums up what I was going to say...no doubt Goku got stronger over the long training period, but without being SSJ2 there's no way he could one hit K.O full powered up Cell. Pikkon just got a surprise attack in, Cell charged foward expecting to own them easily and got caught off guard. As UltimateGohan said, Pikkon was pretty much owning Goku towards the end of the fight, Goku only won because he ring outed him with a IT Kamehameha which Pikkon didn't see commin'.



+ Rebel X	Jul 15 2008, 08:33 PM Post #10
Posts: 11,612 Group: Legend Member #88 Joined: January 16, 2005	Cellgeta Jul 10 2008, 04:51 PM Yeah but when Pikkon, and goku went to fight Cell off in Hell that was right after both Cell and Goku died so therefore Cell would still be stronger then Goku by a lot. Well not really. Goku was holding a bit back, and keep in mind that whole thing about Saiyans becoming stronger after everyfight. So Goku was a match against Cell but he cudnt beeat him it is possible that the match against cell just made him stronger.. ya never know lol



sunate	Jul 15 2008, 08:48 PM Post #11
Posts: 644 Group: Donator Member #3,481 Joined: June 16, 2008 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Eureka 7 What Browser do you use? safari	You guys forget about the power cell lost when the absorbtion was over with when he died.



Cellgeta	Jul 16 2008, 01:56 AM Post #12
Posts: 106 Group: Member Member #3,536 Joined: July 9, 2008 Favourite Anime DBZ	sunate Jul 15 2008, 08:48 PM You guys forget about the power cell lost when the absorbtion was over with when he died. What are you talking about? Cell didn't lose any power



Gokan	Nov 5 2008, 05:32 PM Post #13
Posts: 107 Group: Member Member #3,783 Joined: November 4, 2008 Favourite Anime DragonballZ Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	Goku probably got stronger with each fight plus with cell but he still wasn't strong enough to beat Pikon, he used his head more but i think the battle with Pikon doubled Goku's power.



~~Frankie~~	Nov 5 2008, 05:39 PM Post #14
Posts: 573 Group: GTFO Member #593 Joined: August 8, 2005	You also have to remember, in that after world, Goku and Pikkon both raised their strengths by intense training.



Gokan	Nov 5 2008, 11:14 PM Post #15
Posts: 107 Group: Member Member #3,783 Joined: November 4, 2008 Favourite Anime DragonballZ Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	did they even train for the tournament it seemed to me that the tournament happened straight after they fought cell and that



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