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TNA vs WWE (talent)
Topic Started: Jun 28 2008, 06:15 PM (610 Views)
.Punxx
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well since the last person who made a list sounded biased.. (i mean it was so biased he said Kofi belongs in TNA just because hes so good!) ill make a new one.

and ill keep it short and sweet

Bam Neely: no one's seen much of him, but a body guard

Boogeyman:

Chavo Guerrero: good technical skills and charisma

Colin Delaney: bah

Elijah Burke: very talented on the matt

Finlay: average technical skills, avergae charisma

Hornswoggle: crowd jester

John Morrison: very talented

Mark Henry: sucks

Matt Hardy: very good on the matt, very desent charisma

Mike Knox: bah

Nunzio: very good, bring back the cruiserweight division or the FBI

Stevie Richards: bah

Super Crazy: pretty good

The Miz: hate him

Tommy Dreamer: always sucked on the matt, great chrisma


Raw.

Batista: great pressence, average tech. talent


Charlie Haas: nope


Chris Jericho: best all around wrestler of all time, if you got an argument post up dont feel like explaining atm havnt time

Chuck Palumbo: bah.. he should be on ECW


CM Punk: biggest prospect in the past few years


Cody Rhodes: still to early.. bah..


Deuce: decent

Hardcore H: not bad


Jamie Noble: hes really good technically and charisma.. idk why wwe wont use him to his potential though, but hey..


JBL: SUCKS

John Cena: lacks moves.. but the fact of the matter is, he can pull off a *****ty FU.. and has got great charisma.. hes like a modern day hulk hogan to say the least.. he'll get better.. he's only 30, i've heard storys of him being better in previous promotions.. but, i havnt seen anything of it so..


JTG,: who sees him

Kane: better before.. though his time's past

Kofi Kingston: another great athelte, 1 of the best in the entire biz

Lance Cade: SUCKS

Matt Striker: jobber ville

Paul Burchill: who seen him

Paul London: was better before they reitred the CW title

Randy Orton: excellent in the ring, average charisma

Rey Mysterio: very good, but overused.. im glad hes injured

Robbie McAllister & Rory McAllister: decent

Santino Marella: very good, and underused.. if you saw his technical skills from OVW youd be suprised.. incredible on the mic

Shad: etc.


Shawn Michaels: still one of the best in the biz.. tech. and to the crowd


Snitsky: SUCKS


Ted DiBiase: ????

Val Venis: I HATE HIM (biased)





smackdown

Big Daddy V: FATTY


Big Show: great for his size, more athletic than alot of other people (in the world) great heel, great face.

Brian Kendrick: no one sees him

Carlito: not bad.. cry baby

Curt Hawkins: hes only 21

DH Smith: decent

Domino: over

Edge: LEGEND in the making

Festus: okay

Gregory Helms: average

Jeff Hardy: INCREDIBLE athletism.. his solo should take off on smackdown.. unless HHH robs the show

Jesse: not to good

Jimmy Wang Yang: average

Kenny Dykstra: bah

Montel Vontavious Porter: great prospect to have


Mr. Kennedy,
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Shannon Moore: no CW title.. why hire him

Shelton Benjamin: underated by a mile.. hopefully smackdown get him running


The Great Khali: SUCKS

Trevor Murdoch SUCKS

Triple H: overated.. but he was always pretty gopod. not ncredible, but pretty good

Umaga = Samoa Joe


Vladimir Kozlov: different in the ring than heidenrich.. hes just squahsing people now.. who can grade


Zack Ryder: still young.. very young
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.Punxx
Jun 28 2008, 06:15 PM
well since the last person who made a list sounded biased.. (i mean it was so biased he said Kofi belongs in TNA just because hes so good!)

Saying kofi belongs in TNA isint biased, its apparent WWE doesnt use their talent,they never have, without the cw title they wont use him exsept to job out.

i said he needs to be on TNA because he would fit in so much better there because there he would be better used(I also said that a few of the TNA wrestlers should leave TNA because they dont fit in yet i am baised... mate read the posts instead of talking without collective thoughts)just like all the other people from WWE that has gone to TNA has had a better turnaround by moving. though people from TNA that went to WWE cant say this infact only 1 not including CM Punk remains under payroll.

if there are any biased post it would be this one as you dont cover both sides, but its ok it is to be expected from you.
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Isn't any list biased to a degree? I mean for it to not be biased, someone who doesn't hold an opinion on either would be better off making the list.
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Jun 28 2008, 07:07 PM
Isn't any list biased to a degree? I mean for it to not be biased, someone who doesn't hold an opinion on either would be better off making the list.
Not so.

We are comparing two different brands but one is only looking at the facts of one side, but not the other( and fanatically refuses anything in saying otherwise)


lets say we are comparing coke to pepsi. he is tasting a pepsi, but he refuses to taste coke. much like what is happaning here.

ofcorse he could attempt to discuss both sides and yet still be opinionated to be considered onesided, but atleast he attempts to coherently understand others and not dissmiss them or their veiws on a whim without an intelligent responce.
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if there are any biased post it would be this one as you dont cover both sides,

dont forget I don't support TNA.. and don't mention me being biased.. as I do not praise every single WWE star. Oh and we both forgot to add The Undertaker.. as he is in reality, on the injure shelf at the moment, and not in fact "banned from the WWE"
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just like all the other people from WWE that has gone to TNA has had a better turnaround by moving.

yeah.. everyone except Diesel.. well he was in WWE 13 years ago.. what's he doing now!? Angle was just as good in WWE.. Christian went from mid card to main event over night.. and he's not THAT great.
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dont forget I don't support TNA.. and don't mention me being biased.. as I do not praise every single WWE star.


the bold and italic is a contradiction.


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Oh and we both forgot to add The Undertaker.. as he is in reality, on the injure shelf at the moment, and not in fact "banned from the WWE"


in the past 4 years he only makes appearances' at WM events only to lose at the next ppv then he goes back into a brief retirment only to occasionally wrestle mabye 10 regular shows out of the year. really isint active.

he is a 'legend' though i think his charcter is a bit over done.

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yeah.. everyone except Diesel.. well he was in WWE 13 years ago.. what's he doing now!?


i stated i liked Kev but his day was ten years ago, same as sting.

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Angle was just as good in WWE


being forced onto ECW a dying brand not to mention they took his title away right before,meh it was by WWEs managment that he went to TNA and thereby having a better career(at this point) then what he had left from WWE. and before then, he jobbed for cena f o r e v e r. and had terriable storylines(him being unpatriotic blah blah)

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Christian went from mid card to main event over night.. and he's not THAT great.



Yet edge that has a less of a deep moveset is a legend, come now. WWE totally misused him,they made him a fairly dull jobber when he could of been where edge(they were equal then and practaclly equal now) is now. and another reason why he fits in better is because TNA is at its core a light heavyweight wrestling division were WWE employs over grown apes with no skill at all and pushs them to boot, granted edge is one of the few to break this ground and like i said i was estatic when he pwnd cena. if you arent over 6 foot 5 or roided to the max its hard to get titleshots in the heavyweight division*unless your 'friend' dies then you ride off of his death* or you marry into the bosses family* :D

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ_EMsrNUK4

Hah steiner owned HHH. Anyways its funny that Russo written in the sad truth of the stability in TNA adding other wrestling promotions stars to TNA is infact booting out deasent talent(though steiner doesnt belong in tna either, he is still the *****, no one can pull off suplexs like big poppa pump)

heh
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in the past 4 years he only makes appearances' at WM events only to lose at the next ppv then he goes back into a brief retirment only to occasionally wrestle mabye 10 regular shows out of the year. really isint active.

Actually, He won @ WM 24.. then he won @ Backlash '08.. then he won @ Judgment day.. then he lost at One night Stand.. So i doubt he comes every WM only to loose at the next PPV.. as he was active for maybe 6 months this years.. give or take. Well he's old, it's a good strategy to come in and out in his case, as he is still in as great shape as he was then, not to mention he'll prevent injury and reecoperate from injury. Last year it was a torn bicep.. this year it was, I forget.


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think his charcter is a bit over done.

That's what keeps the Undertaker going.. he has more than one gimmick, is still 1 of the best technical men.. unlike some old timers like Sting, Diesel and Hulk Hogan to name a few.

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Yet edge that has a less of a deep moveset is a legend, come now.

Edge, although not the move set he is great to watch in the ring. I gotta think his greatest asset is durability.. so his matches are suprisingly not to to short at most times. Other than that I can't say he is slow or sloppy in the ring, almost never makes a mistake. He's not a flyer, but on the matt I can't say he is bad at all. I gotta say he is better than Chrstian though. I always remeber Chrstian as Captain Charisma, he lived off of it all the time. the only problem with Edge is that he makes a *****ty heel. Mabe he should go back to Raw and become a face.. this Vicky BS is sheit.

one of my favorite matches was champion vs champion at the 2007 WWE draft, Edge vs Cena.

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