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Euro 2008 Discussions and Predictions
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~~.Punxx~~	Jun 24 2008, 07:22 PM Post #46
Worst Member of the Year Posts: 1,580 Group: Suspended Member #2,429 Joined: July 11, 2007	Quote: Well a game of 0-0 tells me nither team managed to searve the aim of the game which is to kick the football into the back of a net attached to a frame and failing to do that tells me they did bad. you don't watch to much soccer do you? As you already know the aim of the game is to get the ball in the back of the net. What you didn't mention are the defensive specialists of the game. The goal keeper as well. You can be having the best game in the world and yet have the score being 0-0 because both teams were firing @ the net, yet both teams were playing strong defensivley, as both teams wanted to win and neither wants to loose. In fact Italy is a defensive specialist team, in hockey New Jersey is a defensive specialist team.. the aim of hockey is to get the puck in the back of the net, yet New Jersey doesn't get many pucks behind the net because they take a defensive aim, and they been a great team doing that. Quote: That's like going into a war and saying nither side killed anyone but they wounded a few people. I mean, they didn't do their job did they. no it's not, a sport is a game.. war isn't. you can't just say "nobody scored so they were playing bad" I could much easily say.. "the score was 0-0 they were playing incredible, and both defensive sides were extremley suberb" guess you just have to watch the entire game though, you can't just look at the scoreboard.. the score can be 10-10 and both teams were playing ***. Edited by .Punxx**, Jun 24 2008, 07:24 PM.



Meowth	Jun 24 2008, 07:28 PM Post #47
=._.= Posts: 130,670 Group: Princess Member #23 Joined: November 22, 2004 Gender Female Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Fruits Basket	But the aim is to get past the defence, it's no good saying "Oh both teams where great defensivly" I mean what's the point being all defensive in a game you are suppost to attack and score in? Silly, I belive that if a game ends in 0-0, both teams wasted their time, who cares if they played well defensivly and the keeper made a great save, the point is to score, if you don't score, you are missing the point of the game and if you miss the point of the game you are still a loser.



Pookie	Jun 24 2008, 07:30 PM Post #48
Pookie Powa! Posts: 18,039 Group: Princesa Pookie Member #1,340 Joined: April 21, 2006 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome and Firefox	Punxx is exactly right. The score does not ALWAYS reflect a team's performance as I told punxx several days before. He said that Russia would lose to Holland because they were defeated by Spain 4-1. Conversely, I watched the game, and I disagreed with him. I told him that Russia played well despite their inability to finish their opportunities, which is why I chose them to be the favorites against Holland. Guess what? They defeated Holland. Spain had a great game. I would not have been disappointed with their determination if they had lost. The players left their hearts on the field. They had their opportunities, but were unable to put it behind the net. In the end, penalty kicks were the deciding factor. Edited by Pookie, Jun 24 2008, 07:32 PM.



Meowth	Jun 24 2008, 07:32 PM Post #49
=._.= Posts: 130,670 Group: Princess Member #23 Joined: November 22, 2004 Gender Female Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Fruits Basket	Like I said, I find watching any game boring, from my point of view 0-0 means they both sucked, I don't like the look of a 0-0 scoreline, it's very boring. Argue as much as you will that so and so almost score and Blah FC where the better side on the feild, they could have score if ... and so forth, I honestly don't give a rats arse about any of that. I like numbers. 0 is a boring number. Ergo that is my view.



Pookie	Jun 24 2008, 07:36 PM Post #50
Pookie Powa! Posts: 18,039 Group: Princesa Pookie Member #1,340 Joined: April 21, 2006 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome and Firefox	You are entitled to your opinion as anyone is, but at the same time it's unfair to assume that a team played poorly because of a score.



Meowth	Jun 24 2008, 07:39 PM Post #51
=._.= Posts: 130,670 Group: Princess Member #23 Joined: November 22, 2004 Gender Female Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Fruits Basket	Well you could have someone who watched the whole game and said it was a bad game, you know. But yeah, the score means a lot to me, it shows that nither team managed to score which is the key point to the game



~~.Punxx~~	Jun 24 2008, 07:42 PM Post #52
Worst Member of the Year Posts: 1,580 Group: Suspended Member #2,429 Joined: July 11, 2007	Quote: But the aim is to get past the defence, it's no good saying "Oh both teams where great defensivly" I mean what's the point being all defensive in a game you are suppost to attack and score in? DUH so the other team doesn't score on you, and you have less of a chance to loosing the game. Who's to say it's an ALL defensive game? Defensive specialist, yes. ALL defensive, no. The point of a defensive specialist is to keep out the the opposing offense at all times then counter, build a firm lead, and keep that lead. Conservative play if you will. @ times it will work, @ times it won't. Obviously so, you can't win them all.. as the lifelong saying goes. and i like the way you say "the aim is to get past the defense" so.. if a team has extraordinary defense, and not many opposing teams can get past an extraordinary defense.. would you say "oh.. well.. the aim of the game was to get past their defense and they didn't" yet you neglected a great defensive. Quote: Silly, I belive that if a game ends in 0-0, both teams wasted their time, who cares if they played well defensivly and the keeper made a great save, the point is to score, if you don't score, you are missing the point of the game and if you miss the point of the game you are still a loser. How did they waste their time? I for one, during the penalty kicks of the Spain-Italy game was thinking "thanks heavens for our defensive squad.. had it not been for them I'd have wasted my time watching Italy get destroyed by Spain" You seem to overlook a small aspect of the game though. Time badly wasted would be a low quality game.. so despite the score, it's the quality of the score that counts. Not the quanitity. As I've mentioned the Italy-Spain game had great quality being played. And that my friends is how defensive defensemen in soccer (and hockey) are usually overlooked.



Meowth	Jun 24 2008, 07:46 PM Post #53
=._.= Posts: 130,670 Group: Princess Member #23 Joined: November 22, 2004 Gender Female Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Fruits Basket	League wise, a 0-0 score does nothing, no goal diffrence added and only one point, so all in all, a waste of time. This tournement has penalties which settled the game yes but I still think 0-0 is a waste. My view okay.



~~.Punxx~~	Jun 24 2008, 07:52 PM Post #54
Worst Member of the Year Posts: 1,580 Group: Suspended Member #2,429 Joined: July 11, 2007	Quote: League wise, a 0-0 score does nothing, no goal diffrence added and only one point, so all in all, a waste of time. It could make a difference in the standings 1)Juventus 29 2) AC Milan 29 ------- 4) Lazio 21 19) Parma 5 Juventus 1 - Parma 2 AC Milan 0 - Lazio 0 day 2 AC Milan 30 Juventus 29 ---------- Lazio 22.. etc.



Meowth	Jun 24 2008, 08:04 PM Post #55
=._.= Posts: 130,670 Group: Princess Member #23 Joined: November 22, 2004 Gender Female Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Fruits Basket	However. Day 1 1) Juventus 29 2) AC Milan 29 ------- 4) Lazio 21 19) Parma 5 Juventus 1 - Parma 1 AC Milan 0 - Lazio 0 Day 2 1) Juventus 30 2) AC Milan 30 ---------- 4) Lazio 22 19) Parma 6 Zing



~~.Punxx~~	Jun 24 2008, 08:06 PM Post #56
Worst Member of the Year Posts: 1,580 Group: Suspended Member #2,429 Joined: July 11, 2007	Fact of the matter being: (different) circumstance of course a win is better than a draw.. but that's aside the point.



Meowth	Jun 24 2008, 08:11 PM Post #57
=._.= Posts: 130,670 Group: Princess Member #23 Joined: November 22, 2004 Gender Female Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Fruits Basket	I've stated my opinion already and I'm not going to change it no matter how much football terminology you throw at me.



* Light	Jun 24 2008, 09:17 PM Post #58
Yo Posts: 5,563 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,705 Joined: October 5, 2007 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom Favourite Manga The Story of Light the Legend by Cal/DBZF Invasion! by Copy_Ninja	i agree with punxx and angelichottieds, but yeah it's all opinions so it doesn't really matter but i wouldn't say wanting a different team to win means your not a true sports fan i want spain to win because my dream team has 4 spanish players, and i want russia to win because they have a good squad and are the underdogs (turkey are just bleh lol) this is because i can never support wales because they never qualify lol



~~.Punxx~~	Jun 24 2008, 09:35 PM Post #59
Worst Member of the Year Posts: 1,580 Group: Suspended Member #2,429 Joined: July 11, 2007	Quote: this is because i can never support wales because they never qualify lol I used to do that for baseball.. at 1 point when i used to follow it. As you know Montreal doesn't have a team.. and even when they did it ALWAYS SUCKED. So I've been a fan of the red sox ever since. whether they had a great season or missed the playoffs.. well, not anymore since I don't follow it.. off topic.



* Light	Jun 24 2008, 09:55 PM Post #60
Yo Posts: 5,563 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,705 Joined: October 5, 2007 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom Favourite Manga The Story of Light the Legend by Cal/DBZF Invasion! by Copy_Ninja	yeah lol, anyways predictions for the next two games?



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