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Broly vs gohan; confused
Topic Started: Apr 22 2008, 02:03 PM (23,502 Views)
Mystic Gohan Jun 24 2008, 03:28 PM Post #16
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 I think he was ssj2 but because lack of training and lack of anger at transforming he was weaker at his ssj2 form then when he fought cell so broly had the upper hand. Even though there was no lightning his hair and features are more defined so he has to be ssj2 i think.
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Final shine Jul 22 2008, 12:20 PM Post #17
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 Probably SSJ2. He looked more like SSJ2 than SSJ1.
Gogeta SSJ 4 RULES.
I am a huge fan of Broly, Gohan,Cell,Vegeta and Vegito too.

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sunate Jul 22 2008, 10:52 PM Post #18
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gohan as ssj

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gohan as ssj2

as you see his hair is toatly up in ssj2 form except the smal part to the left of his his forehead.
Edited by sunate, Jul 22 2008, 11:06 PM.
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rmmaniac09 Jan 5 2009, 06:12 PM Post #19
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 just remember that the broly movies do not follow the story so gohan probably wasnt able to turn SSJ2 in movie 10
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Jiku Jan 5 2009, 06:20 PM Post #20
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UltimateGohan
Apr 28 2008, 01:50 AM
ok, how did broly get stronger, wasnt he frozen :S now im lost

does any1 know how broly got stronger ????
He was in a near death state and when a Sayian recovers from a near death situation that Sayain becomes stronger.

Back on subject, Gohan was at Super Sayian level. The reason Gohan may be mistaken for SS2 is because he usually has a thin piece of hair next to a larger piece, but when he transforms its just the large piece of hair thus making Gohan look as if he were SS2.
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* Itagaki Manabu Jan 5 2009, 10:37 PM Post #21
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 Ok, lets discuss this >_<, Lets talk about this complete BS about the people 'forgetting' the lightning. Think about it, except from more defined hair, the only other way of telling a super saiyan 2 from a super saiyan 1 is the lightning (except from powerlevels lol), Lightning is what makes a SSJ2, as does the long hair for SSJ3, The Monkey coat and tail for SSJ4.

And Why are people showing pictures of younger gohan, this is movie 10, when he is an adult, So lets have a look at some screen shots.

Here is Gohan in his normal form, black hair, not very defined:
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Now here he is as a SSJ in the Tournament Saga before the Buu Saga:
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The hair is golden (obivously) and more defined (spiky). No lightning bolts.


Now Let's take a look at SUPER SAIYAN Gohan in movie 10:
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The hair is golden and more defined than in his normal form.


Now lets take a look at trunk's hair in Movie 10:
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woah, does anybody notice the similarity between his hair and Gohan's :O . Still, No lightning though.

Now in the Tournament picture, Gohan's hair looks more defined than in the Movie 10 picture, so lets take a look at SUPER SAIYAN 2 Gohan in the Tournament saga:
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Wow, The hair is alot more defined than any other picture, and OMG, is that a lightning bolt? Yes, Yes it is.



This proves my point that he was a super saiyan and not a super saiyan 2 in Movie 10.
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SSJFirestorm Jan 5 2009, 10:58 PM Post #22
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 I aggree with Itagaki Manabu

It is my beleif for Gohan to become SSJ2 he must become SEVERELY angry e.g when Cell Jr's were beating the crap out of his family and friends.

The lack of lightning bolts in his aura and his hair clearly state an SSJ form
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Emperor Cold Jan 6 2009, 06:47 PM Post #23
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Makaioshin

 Couple of points I just wanted to make.

1. Gohan only went ssj2 twice after Cell: in movie 9 and when facing Kibito. He is not ssj2 when fighting Dabura or Buu. If he was, he would've defeated Dabura since it was stated somewhere (I forget where) that Dabura was equal to Perfect Cell.

2. The lightning was never forgotten in dbz. In gt it may have been forgotten, but that doesn't count. Every single time there was a ssj2 transformation in the show there has been lightning.

3. If anything Broly was weaker in movie 10. He had just spent 7 years frozen in ice; his body had probably atrophied quite a bit. Also his wound was never properly healed, and his mental condition had deteriorated even further. I don't think the near-death power boost affects super saiyans much, since the transformation is so much more of a boost than the near-deat boost.
If he was even stronger than he was in movie 8, when he easily picked apart Goku, Gohan, Mirai Trunks, Piccolo, and Vegeta, I don't think he would've had any trouble at all with Videl, Goten, Chibi Trunks, and Teen Gohan.
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SSJFirestorm Jan 6 2009, 07:02 PM Post #24
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 good point about the power boost there cold which would explain why he had such a hard time dealing wht goten and trunks but on the otherhand i dont think he was really trying, i mean lets face it when he fights he's downright BRUTAL but when facing those 2... i dont know it just seemed like he was holding back to me
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rmmaniac09 Jan 6 2009, 09:33 PM Post #25
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Itagaki Manabu
Jan 5 2009, 10:37 PM
Ok, lets discuss this >_<, Lets talk about this complete BS about the people 'forgetting' the lightning. Think about it, except from more defined hair, the only other way of telling a super saiyan 2 from a super saiyan 1 is the lightning (except from powerlevels lol), Lightning is what makes a SSJ2, as does the long hair for SSJ3, The Monkey coat and tail for SSJ4.

And Why are people showing pictures of younger gohan, this is movie 10, when he is an adult, So lets have a look at some screen shots.

Here is Gohan in his normal form, black hair, not very defined:
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Now here he is as a SSJ in the Tournament Saga before the Buu Saga:
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The hair is golden (obivously) and more defined (spiky). No lightning bolts.


Now Let's take a look at SUPER SAIYAN Gohan in movie 10:
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The hair is golden and more defined than in his normal form.


Now lets take a look at trunk's hair in Movie 10:
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woah, does anybody notice the similarity between his hair and Gohan's :O . Still, No lightning though.

Now in the Tournament picture, Gohan's hair looks more defined than in the Movie 10 picture, so lets take a look at SUPER SAIYAN 2 Gohan in the Tournament saga:
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Wow, The hair is alot more defined than any other picture, and OMG, is that a lightning bolt? Yes, Yes it is.



This proves my point that he was a super saiyan and not a super saiyan 2 in Movie 10.
Yeah well i like the younger gohan a lot more..
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Hero¡£ Jan 16 2009, 08:27 PM Post #26
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Itagaki Manabu
Jan 5 2009, 10:37 PM
Now here he is as a SSJ in the Tournament Saga before the Buu Saga:
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The hair is golden (obivously) and more defined (spiky). No lightning bolts.



Now in the Tournament picture, Gohan's hair looks more defined than in the Movie 10 picture, so lets take a look at SUPER SAIYAN 2 Gohan in the Tournament saga:
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Wow, The hair is alot more defined than any other picture, and OMG, is that a lightning bolt? Yes, Yes it is.



This proves my point that he was a super saiyan and not a super saiyan 2 in Movie 10.
Damn, it's just too bad those two pictures were actually when he was in his SSJ 2 form.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE7I3Jmgk08

1:33 is your "SSJ Picture" And at 1:40, whats that? Yes it's a lighting bolt!
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UltimateGohan Jan 16 2009, 09:06 PM Post #27
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 ya but everytime there is an ssj2 goku vegeta or gohan it always shows some electric aura, in movie 10 it didnt show it once so he was only ssj2 .......
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* Itagaki Manabu Jan 16 2009, 10:09 PM Post #28
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Hero¡£
Jan 16 2009, 08:27 PM
Damn, it's just too bad those two pictures were actually when he was in his SSJ 2 form.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE7I3Jmgk08

1:33 is your "SSJ Picture" And at 1:40, whats that? Yes it's a lighting bolt!
Yeah, I was pretty curious about that picture, When I looked at some pictures again I thought it may be SSJ2.
so ummm meh.
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Hero¡£ Jan 16 2009, 10:19 PM Post #29
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ya but everytime there is an ssj2 goku vegeta or gohan it always shows some electric aura, in movie 10 it didnt show it once so he was only ssj2 .......


Okay, so I was watching the Goku and Vegeta vs Super Buu (when they were inside his body) and they didn't have electric bolts around them when they were fighting him. Nothing would be wrong with this if Super Buu wasn't already stronger than a Super Saiyan 2. Why would Goku and Vegeta not transform and at least try to fight Super Buu at their full strength? Makes no sense to me.

They had to be SSJ2 or else they would of died then and there, they were getting beat up as is. Just because theres no lighting bolt doesn't mean that they weren't SSJ2.

This is the video by the way : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U75UGrt98Ic

They transform at 0:32
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* Itagaki Manabu Jan 16 2009, 10:37 PM Post #30
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ya but everytime there is an ssj2 goku vegeta or gohan it always shows some electric aura, in movie 10 it didnt show it once so he was only ssj2 .......


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Okay, so I was watching the Goku and Vegeta vs Super Buu (when they were inside his body) and they didn't have electric bolts around them when they were fighting him.

Might as well forget about the long hair and no eyebrows for ssj3 while were at it...




No Electric Bolts = No Super Saiyan 2 >_<
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