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Pit Bulls
Topic Started: Apr 2 2008, 11:46 PM (1,570 Views)
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Apr 2 2008, 07:40 PM
Why allow someone to have something vicious in the first place? Why did I have to almost suffer an attack because of neglegence of an owner? If I had endured a serious injury, then that dog would not be alive today.

True, allowing them to be pets shouldn't be allowed. They're just too dangerous and unpredictable
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Apr 3 2008, 01:40 AM
Why allow someone to have something vicious in the first place?

They should be allowed

Unless they accept the responsibility to train it well, walk it, and keep it in line.
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Apr 2 2008, 09:42 PM
AngelicHottieDS
Apr 3 2008, 01:40 AM
Why allow someone to have something vicious in the first place?

They should be allowed

Unless they accept the responsibility to train it well, walk it, and keep it in line.

Why should they be allowed? You didn't give a reason.


Edit: At my high school, the police officers spoke about police dogs. German Sheppards are the commonly used for service. However,one of the kids asked

"Why don't you guys use Pitbulls?"

The police officer replied

"Pitbulls are extremely hard dogs to train."

They are difficult dogs to train and not many people have the patience to do it.
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I did, i added unless in there.

They should be allowed if they accept a responsibility, so on and so forth.

Im sorry that dog attacked you. The owner should have been there.
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Just because an animal has the ability to cause serious harm, doesn't mean it's vicious by nature. You're misunderstanding me I guess, Dark Slade.

Magus LaVey had a lion, a natural predator and predisposed to violence but also capable of compassion.

A lion is a lot bigger than a dog, if he could control a lion by knowing exactly how to care for them why can't people control any breed or type of dog?.
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Apr 2 2008, 08:20 PM
Just because an animal has the ability to cause serious harm, doesn't mean it's vicious by nature. You're misunderstanding me I guess, Dark Slade.

Magus LaVey had a lion, a natural predator and predisposed to violence but also capable of compassion.

A lion is a lot bigger than a dog, if he could control a lion by knowing exactly how to care for them why can't people control any breed or type of dog?.

Didnt the lion end up biting him?
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Apr 2 2008, 09:18 PM
Haze55
Apr 2 2008, 08:20 PM
Just because an animal has the ability to cause serious harm, doesn't mean it's vicious by nature. You're misunderstanding me I guess, Dark Slade.

Magus LaVey had a lion, a natural predator and predisposed to violence but also capable of compassion.

A lion is a lot bigger than a dog, if he could control a lion by knowing exactly how to care for them why can't people control any breed or type of dog?.

Didnt the lion end up biting him?

Yeah it did
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I'm pretty sure Pitbulls were bred for fighting. I remember hearing that they were bred to fight Bulls in pits as a sport. Hence Pitbull. That's the reason for a lot of their features, although I can't think of any off the top of my head.
Pitbulls are violent, powerful dogs and unpredictable as stated before with AngelicHottiesDS giving an example of this. Any dog that would attack unprovoked like that are dangerous animals. Because of this I don't think they should be kept as pets because of their unpredictable capacity to cause harm. However, if they are still allowed as pets then the owner should be qualified to handle them or train them or something.
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Apr 3 2008, 07:06 AM
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Apr 2 2008, 09:18 PM
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Apr 2 2008, 08:20 PM
Just because an animal has the ability to cause serious harm, doesn't mean it's vicious by nature. You're misunderstanding me I guess, Dark Slade.

Magus LaVey had a lion, a natural predator and predisposed to violence but also capable of compassion.

A lion is a lot bigger than a dog, if he could control a lion by knowing exactly how to care for them why can't people control any breed or type of dog?.

Didnt the lion end up biting him?

Yeah it did

No, lol. Do you really think I would have brought it up if it had?
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Apr 3 2008, 01:33 PM
Dark Slade
Apr 3 2008, 07:06 AM
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Apr 2 2008, 09:18 PM
Haze55
Apr 2 2008, 08:20 PM
Just because an animal has the ability to cause serious harm, doesn't mean it's vicious by nature. You're misunderstanding me I guess, Dark Slade.

Magus LaVey had a lion, a natural predator and predisposed to violence but also capable of compassion.

A lion is a lot bigger than a dog, if he could control a lion by knowing exactly how to care for them why can't people control any breed or type of dog?.

Didnt the lion end up biting him?

Yeah it did

No, lol. Do you really think I would have brought it up if it had?

Then you're obviously getting your facts mixed up because the lion DID attack its owner.

And heres another story

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html...9609C946697D6CF

Lets see

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Dewey, who was born in captivity and always looked upon by his keepers as a harmless lion


Harmless it says.
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This is a random article about a lion attacking… does this have anything to do with LaVey’s lion? Did I say that lions never attack people?

How do you know that Lavey’s lion attacked him? Articles about other lions don’t really prove anything about Lavey’s
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Apr 3 2008, 01:50 PM
This is a random article about a lion attacking… does this have anything to do with LaVey’s lion? Did I say that lions never attack people?

How do you know that Lavey’s lion attacked him? Articles about other lions don’t really prove anything about Lavey’s

No, But it proves that lions are not the type of animal you can control because of there unpredictable nature. As with Pitbulls.
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okay i didnt read your 1st post cuz u always make long ***** posts that waste my time.

pitbulls are very efficient dogs if you learn to train them. they'll guard your house, they'll guard your kids, they'll guard you, they are very powerfull dogs.

but theyr hard to train, it takes almost 2 years if you want a pitbull to do that for you, and though the pitbull is efficient, it is the least loyal breed of dogs. Sure, every bad dog has his day, but on average a pitbull will attack his owner or even a stranger EVEN if you train it for 2 years.. i know from experience. (funnier than ana's story if u ask me..)

although if you want a nice family dog and buy a pitbull and just leave it alone all day like a vegetable, forget about it, you deserve to be torn apart by your dog.. and do no leave it w/o a leash while you go buy cigaretts

it's only common sense that the pitbull has some sort of wild instict, 1st of all a domestic dog isn't supposed to attack it's master for no reason, and if it does it should be shot, because if it attacks the master the trust is lost. In the situation where the little girl and her beagle are attacked, it's a split between owner's fault and dogsfault
Owner left the dog unattended in public
Dog should be loyal to the owner and shoud "STAY"
all trust is lost if it does harm

imo, the Rottweiler is the best guard dog.. big jaw, very powefrull body (more powerfull than the pitbull), VERY loyal, strong/long legs. although these dogs take up to 3 years to train, thats the problem.

well.. i'd mention my expeirence but i think u had enough for now..
on the topic of lions, u no those 2 magicens from Las Vegas, who do all sorts of stunts with their white tigers.. and actually train their tigers.. didnt 1 of them attack and almost kill 1 of his owners a couple of yrs ago.

wild animals should not be kept as domestic pets.. i heard pitbulls are banned in england

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I totally agree with you.

Rottweilers are fantastic dogs, my uncle had one for years, they are very loyal and very powerful
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My brother was attacked by a dog when he was younger and it messed up his eye. I've always had an inborn fear of larger dogs (it's dissipated as I've aged but some of it is still there). I've never really had the unlucky experience of ever meeting a pitbull.

The only dog to ever get hostile at me was a Golden Retriever. The owners of a house down near a hill let their Golden Retriever run through town scaring people and chased a Supervalu worker to hide behind some gates at the market. My friend Mike and I managed to get the dog to chase us on our bikes down to the peoples' home and since we returned it they offered some soda to us in the future. We decided to go down one day and see if we could take them up on that offer. We did. We thought the dog was chained up but, no, it was let to run around, and ran at my friend Mike and I as we descended the hill. Mike dived down the side of the hill into the trees and wet-swampy like area, and I stood, frozen.

Mike was working his way back up as the dog cornered me down the hill a bit and I fell to the ground and played dead but I nearly pissed myself in fear (I was about 8 at the time) so I stood back up and just before the dog lurched at me, my friend Mike tripped and broke a branch and yelled, "Ow!" and the dog stopped silent, stared at the trees, looked at me, and ran off.

I myself own a Chow, and even though the Chow is neutered it will still bite if you REALLY piss it off (as in, intentionally smack him around, annoy him, etc.) but, he's loving towards strangers (curious, not really nice but not really mean, his tails wags and he sniffs and doesn't do much else). He's big. The only dog in my family out of the three that bites anyone (the second dog is a darling and has never tried to attack anyone, even if punished for running away into the forest after a squirrel and is hit with a broom on her backside a few times, always wagging her tail and LOVES people) is my small dog named Odie, he bites people he doesn't know that "intrude" in the house. The bites never hurt, really, unless you're wearing shorts, but, it never even breaks the skin really, and he's only done it like twice to a guy that has like tourettes and was yelling across the house and stopping around and kicked him out of the way.

Pitbulls shouldn't be banned, but, you should have a license to own one, I.E. you need to have prior proof that you can take care of animals, like, routine veterinarian checkups, shots, maybe taking to the groomer, several testimonies from family and friends and maybe even the license-giver personally meeting the animal and doing a thorough inspection before giving a permit to own a pitbull, and, even then, very strict rules should apply. People are irresponsible and it leads to danger. I'm glad I wasn't in AHDS's position, that must have been terrifying.
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