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America's failure to protect it's youth
Topic Started: Mar 27 2008, 08:23 PM (421 Views)
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"Bill Moyer's Journal" (PBS) presented the story of a young man who had rushed to enlist in the US Army only a couple of days after 9/11. He was from the "heartland", not from New York City, and he wanted to fight against Al Queda in Afghanistan. He never went to Afghanistan; he went to Iraq and was hit by a bullet that paralyzed him from his chest down. To this day, he cannot even pee without his mother's inserting a catheter into his penis.

Now, he makes public appearances to end the war, because he realizes that everything he was told about the war in Iraq was untrue: no WMDs; no tie between Saddam Hussein or complicity with Al Queda in 9/11.

He speaks with difficulty but well enough to convey that he is an intelligent young man. Where was his intelligence before he went to his Army recruiter, one wonders.

This is not a gratuitous question. We had a war from 1964 to 1975 in southeast Asia. Over 50,000 US fighting people were killed and also more than a million Vietnamese. We learned later that the reason for going to war was trumped-up by Lyndon Johnson, our then president. It was a lie that our destroyer was attacked by Ho Chi Minh's torpedo boat. Even if had been true and it was not, would that have been reason enough to commit ourselves to war?

Did the young man not know that our president at that time was a liar; that his concern was not Ho Chi Minh but the Republican conservatives in the Congress? Did he not know that we immersed ourselves in a very costly war and killed many people for no good reason?

Apparently, he did not know, or the knowledge would have cautioned him: wait a moment! Is going to war in Iraq or even in Afghanistan the best way to deal with 9/11? Should I, without hesitation, put my life on the line without ever a bit of deliberation, without learning what others were saying about how best to deal with Al Queda and their crime? Can I trust the President of the United States not only to choose the best response to 9/11 but to tell the truth?

The US media have been justly blamed for misleading the American people about the need for the war in Iraq and for the military response to the crime of 9/11. We can see from the needless self-sacrifice of the paralyzed young man and of many others like him that the failure of the media began years before 9/11. The media, the schools, the entire major veteran's organizations, the military apologists, all of them failed these young people. They went to war without knowing what liars and criminals our presidents can be. The lessons of Vietnam were obscured, kept from those young people, and they paid a bitter price with their lives and limbs.
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Its *****ing war.

You cant protect everyone, theres always causalities in BOTH sides of any war. America isnt failing to protect its youth. Causalities in a war is inevitable.

Yeah, we'd all like to see people fighting for good come home safely but it just isn't going to happen.
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Phew.. please, please, read my thread closer and don't just respond to it based on it's title
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You know this really is pretty dumb. American isn't the only country yet it seems that only America is the bad people in war. Look im not going to take any side on if there should be troops in Iraq or not. I mean some people even try to make Sadam into an innocent person when he was not. For all we know the troops in there may be doing good. There is no way to know and topics like this make me laugh with disgust. I find it dumb people always come up with their conspiracies theory yet nothing has been proven. Maybe its the Patriots :o maybe they are real :o

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You know i just heard of the recent American death toll over in Iraq. its over 4000 and that saddened me very much but i would not say their efforts were in vain. Im not saying you said that because you didnt but they were doing something they thought was right and that takes alot of courage. As for the American government, what makes believe there is so much corruption and wrongdoing? No arguements, just curiousity.
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See I'm not a fan of politics but at least I dont go around saying its all corrupted and theres this big conspiracy. Because theres no way of knowing anything. Why would I waste my lifetime with that? Yes I am sad too that so many people are dying in Iraq. I wish it wasn't this way. from the beginning I was never in favor of this "war" but that doesnt mean that the goverment doesn't care about their lives

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By all means, do whatever you want with your lives. If you think what you’re fighting for is a good cause, go ahead, enlist, put your life on the line for what you believe. What I’m trying to say is, don’t always trust the media, don’t always believe the veterans that come to your school, and most importantly, don’t always trust the government.

Should we really put our lives, and our brothers’ and sisters’ lives on the line for something our government thinks is right? Didn’t we already make this mistake?
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See thats something I can agree with you on. Never trust everything you hear. Somethings may be true some may not. Thing is I don't really pay attention to politics and listen to others say, I do and say what i feel is right. My own free will

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